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Waldham

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Survive with a mount
« on: April 28, 2011, 11:07:20 AM »
Hello, I wish to create a character with a mount.

First ideas :
_ Mounted combat : avoid 1 attack/round against the mount
_ Saddleback (Player's Guide to Faerun) : take 10 on the Ride skill test, replace a Reflexe save for the rider or the mount 1/round

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PrC :
_ Crinti shadow marauder (Shining South/1st level for shadow ride) to obtain the dimension door for the telflammar shadowlord PrC (Unapproachable East/discorporation)
_ Ashworm dragoon (sandstorm) : ashworm mount, saddle bonus : class level as a competence bonus for Ride check, relentless shield at 4th level (can make a ride check after any attack that successfully strikes your ashworm mount, in an attempt to negate the hit on your ashworm),sand and earth rider (stay with the ashworm even when its travels beneath sand, packed earth, cannot burrow the solid rock)
_ ashworm : tremorsense 60 ft, evasive diver (in areas of sand (not packed earth or stone), if the ashworm makes a successful reflex saving throw against an attack normaly deals half dame on a successful save, the ashworm instead manages to instantly dive below the protective sand or earth and takes no damage)
_ the flesh warper (lords of madness) : aberrant familiar (aberration type, darkvision, + 2 bonus on all saving throws against mind affecting spells and abilities, scales (the familiar gains a + 2 bonus on fortitude saves), size increase (becomes larger by one category), elder secret : secret of the mind flayer : + 4racial bonus on all saving throws against mind affecting spells and abilities)

0/Can a rider hide behind the mount ? (on the side of the mount)

1/Are there a feat, PrC or other mean that permit to make a Ride skill test instead the Fortitude, Will save ?

2/ I needed advice for the build. (12-15 level max)

3/ Are there an alternate class, feat, PrC, spell, template or other mean that permit to change the ground in sand or earth ? if yes, which ?

Thanks for your future help.
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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 12:12:07 PM »
Important thing to point out: ashworm dragoon's Relentless Shield has no limit to the number of attacks you can negate each round.

To answer question 0, iirc the ride skill mentions taking cover with a mount. It may be the combat chapter under the mounted section, though. I'm afb.
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 12:22:47 PM »
what do you want the character to be? there are many options for this type of character.  if you want to mainly make a really powerful mount, and have the character be secondary, check out the classic SUPERMOUNT! builds.  

you can also do a gishy type mounted mage with the knight phantom prc and of course some abjurant champion.

what books are allowed?

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0/Can a rider hide behind the mount ? (on the side of the mount)

1/Are there a feat, PrC or other mean that permit to make a Ride skill test instead the Fortitude, Will save ?

2/ I needed advice for the build. (12-15 level max)

3/ Are there an alternate class, feat, PrC, spell or other mean that permit to change the ground in sand or earth ? if yes, which ?

0: see the ride skill....
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also helfling outrider from comp warrior can ride on top of it.

1: none that i know of.

2: see above.

3: change it in what way?
« Last Edit: April 28, 2011, 12:24:56 PM by sir_argenon »

Waldham

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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 12:32:59 PM »
change the rock in sand for example.

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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 12:38:50 PM »
Stone to Sand is a spell in Sandstorm that does that, iirc.
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2011, 06:03:15 AM »
Yes for the spell, but it needs to be a druid or wizard at high level.

The objective is to maximize the chances to survive.

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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2011, 07:54:26 AM »
Don't ride it in mountains would be my suggestion :)

I believe there's an item that allows earthglide for a limited time for a mount (I think it's a saddle), does anyone remember where or what I mean?
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
[/spoiler]

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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2011, 12:00:05 PM »
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Dragoon paladins :
Aswhworm have a poison attack, but many paladins forswear the use of poison. ..removal of the ashworm 's poison producing glands. ... has permanently lost its poison attack, but a mystic bond has developped between the ashworm and the paladin/dragoon. The ashworm gains the benefits of being a paladin'special mount ... and the dragoon can now call the ashworm ...

4/ In Forgotten Realms, is it possible to play a non loyal good paladin ?

5/ Are there a mean in Book of Exalted Deeds to change the poison of the ashworm ?

In planar handbook, there are the personal touchstone feat.

Echolost :
recharge condition : chisel a stone from the wall of echoes (with the sting for the ashworm, is it possible ?)
Higher-order ability : 1/day for 1 minute par character level, you gain the ability to burrow ... through the rock at a speed of 5 feet. .. you can bring one other creatyre with you ... who size is equal to or smaller than your own.

Mineral warrior template :
Earth subtype
6/ Can the creature burrow the solid rock and use the evasive diver ?
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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2011, 05:26:47 PM »
huh ... luckily those sub levels are all Stacking bonuses.
2nd is nice, 4th is better ... but still a weak wizard at this point.

5th is kinda it's own Supermount.
And you don't have to go T.O. with it.

Paladin 2 / Wizard 6 / EK 10 / ??
... is an easy enough walk in and feel it, standard Gish build.

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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2011, 06:32:26 PM »
T.O. ? E.K. ?

Nobody for my other questions ?

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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2011, 07:19:49 PM »
T.O. = Theoretical Optimization.  A level of optimization that is typically reserved simply for the sake of discussion as introducing it into a "real" D&D game would be seemingly pointless due to its high level of brokenation.

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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2011, 11:47:17 PM »
Yes for the spell, but it needs to be a druid or wizard at high level.

The objective is to maximize the chances to survive.
To survive what, exactly?  Under what circumstances?

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Re: Survive with a mount
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2011, 06:28:44 AM »
attacks, spells or effects (Fortitude, Will).

The cover manoeuver of the Ride to avoid the attacks and fast mount for the character.

Rentless shield and mounted combat to avoid the attacks for the mount.

Saddleback to succes the Reflex saves.

The problem is to maximize the fortitude, will saves for the mount and the rider and avoid the 1 natural.

Perhaps the spell resistance for the mount and the rider if a spell or an effect don't authorize a save.

Mettle ?