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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2011, 03:44:55 AM »
Instead of trolling, can you improve the monk class, make it something that the boards would be proud of?
Like The DDO Monk?

Let's use the quirks of the monk to our advantage. Namely, that a monk's body counts as a manufactured weapon.

Let's add some weapon enhancements!
A FOP possesses a monk; can you add enhancements in this manner?

If we get to +8 we can add everdancing...
Well there is a hangup of weather or not a monk's body is masterwork quality. Necklace of Natural Weapons(SS) lets you add named enhancements to natural weapons so you can still try for the everdancing.
maybe if the FOP possesses the necklace?   AFB right now
Let's have azrael take a level of monk, his hoard takes varying(optimal) amounts of FOP,...
they all possess your necklace(or locked gauntlet or whatever) for +FUCKSHITTON enhancement bonus  :love
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2011, 04:06:38 AM »
You could get a doctor (Or perhaps a personal trainer :)) to turn your body into a masterwork weapon (costing the normal 150 gp, of course). That same doctor/trainer could then (at the same time), make the body out of a special material.
Sadly, the Masterwork quality must be added at the time that an item is crafted.  This would require at least a skilled midwife, or, depending on DM interpreatation, skilled parents.

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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2011, 04:30:23 AM »
Needs more PROFESSION SCRIBE and PERFORM CHANTING
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2011, 04:31:20 AM »
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2011, 04:41:38 AM »
A man of god does not run an accounting business!

But... book illuminating! Book illuminaaatinnggg!!
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2011, 01:34:19 PM »
You could get a doctor (Or perhaps a personal trainer :)) to turn your body into a masterwork weapon (costing the normal 150 gp, of course). That same doctor/trainer could then (at the same time), make the body out of a special material.
Sadly, the Masterwork quality must be added at the time that an item is crafted.  This would require at least a skilled midwife, or, depending on DM interpreatation, skilled parents.

Or, be a Warforged?  I mean, by default, weapons made of Adamantine is always masterwork...

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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2011, 02:09:49 PM »
Everdancing Epic Werforged Monk

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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2011, 06:54:42 PM »
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2011, 07:00:59 PM »
Let's use the quirks of the monk to our advantage. Namely, that a monk's body counts as a manufactured weapon.

Let's add some weapon enhancements!

Hmmmm.... this would require some liberal rules interpretations, but if we're treating the monk's body as a manufactured weapon for all purposes...

You could get a doctor (Or perhaps a personal trainer :)) to turn your body into a masterwork weapon (costing the normal 150 gp, of course). That same doctor/trainer could then (at the same time), make the body out of a special material.

Imagine it: Human monk, masterwork adamantine body! (Look out, it's wolverine!). Or, if your DM has likes dismemberment, an Aurorum body. And you could make your body feycraft for free weapon finesse.
Somebody make a "Masterwork Man" monk. We can rebuild him. We have the Magic.
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It's also a little cold because of that.
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2011, 07:04:57 PM »
If this thread is going to get turned into a thread about hilarious things to do with a monk's body being a weapon, I'm going to need to you to supply the 3.5 quote that says a monk's body is treated as a manufactured weapon, or even that a monk can use any part of its body to make unarmed strikes (because the quote saying a monk's unarmed strike is treated as a manufactured weapon is pretty easy). There's a list of body parts that can be used, but it's limited to hands, feet, knees, and elbows.
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2011, 07:05:25 PM »
Let's use the quirks of the monk to our advantage. Namely, that a monk's body counts as a manufactured weapon.

Let's add some weapon enhancements!

Hmmmm.... this would require some liberal rules interpretations, but if we're treating the monk's body as a manufactured weapon for all purposes...

You could get a doctor (Or perhaps a personal trainer :)) to turn your body into a masterwork weapon (costing the normal 150 gp, of course). That same doctor/trainer could then (at the same time), make the body out of a special material.

Imagine it: Human monk, masterwork adamantine body! (Look out, it's wolverine!). Or, if your DM has likes dismemberment, an Aurorum body. And you could make your body feycraft for free weapon finesse.
I look at some of the guys at the gym I go to, and wonder to myself how those aren't masterwork bodies all over.
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2011, 07:46:13 PM »
If this thread is going to get turned into a thread about hilarious things to do with a monk's body being a weapon, I'm going to need to you to supply the 3.5 quote that says a monk's body is treated as a manufactured weapon, or even that a monk can use any part of its body to make unarmed strikes (because the quote saying a monk's unarmed strike is treated as a manufactured weapon is pretty easy). There's a list of body parts that can be used, but it's limited to hands, feet, knees, and elbows.

I'm not sure if there is a quote. This is why I put the disclaimer 'requires some liberal rules interpretations' at the top of my post. I'm fairly confident that we've all heard someone argue that the monk's body/fists/whatever are manufactured weapons for all intents and purposes (usually meaning they can be enchanted) because they misunderstand the point of saying the unarmed strike is treated as a manufactured weapon.

And, so, I'm pointing out the ridiculous things possible by further application of that common (if misguided) reading.

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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2011, 08:05:10 PM »
Are we laughing at him or with him?
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2011, 08:12:12 PM »
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2011, 08:40:44 PM »
Solo ... how could you forget the possibility of dipping Divine Mind 1 at level 7 ...  ???

If you pick Knowledge mantle, the MGA lets you treat all knowledge skills as if trained.
You can Take 10 and give the Aid Another +2 to any of your party mates' knowledge checks..
The Aura lets your party mates get a +2 on their checks too.
Pick Call To Mind via the Hidden Talent from the Mind's Eye upgrades.
Basically it's a Re-roll of a Knowledge check, and with a bonus.
That bonus is listed as a +1 in CPsi instead of the +4 in the XPH.
This was the best and least well know nerf in CPsi.

This would also free up some of the skill ranks for other goodies (!!)
And get Martial Weapons + Heavy Armor, when you can actually afford them.

But it's at the expense of a +1 to BAB, and all the Expert's level 20 goodies.
You have to be Human to multiclass this way. It may not be worth it.

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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2011, 08:41:05 PM »

Now, "Giacomo", sit back and allow me to show you a sorcerer as build by a real optimizer for the medieval/historical campaign, which will overshadow even your attempt.

THE ULTIMATE SORCERER OF ULTIMATE DESTINY!
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Human Expert 20
Stats: STR: 10 DEX: 10 CON: 10 INT: 20 WIS: 10 CHA: 20

Feats:
1. Devil's Favor
1. Fiendish Heritage
3. Devil's Tongue
6. Fiendish Presence
9. Fiendish Legacy
12. Devil's Aura
15. Devil's Stamina
18. Dark Speech

Skills:
Bluff
Decipher Script
Diplomacy
Intimidate
Healing
Knowledge: Arcana
Knowledge: Nature
Knowledge: Religion
Knowledge: The Planes
Spellcraft[/spoiler]

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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2011, 08:48:44 PM »
Now, "Giacomo", sit back and allow me to show you a sorcerer as build by a real optimizer for the medieval/historical campaign, which will overshadow even your attempt.

THE ULTIMATE SORCERER OF ULTIMATE DESTINY!
[spoiler]
Human Expert 20
Stats: STR: 10 DEX: 10 CON: 10 INT: 20 WIS: 10 CHA: 20

Feats:
1. Devil's Favor
1. Fiendish Heritage
3. Devil's Tongue
6. Fiendish Presence
9. Fiendish Legacy
12. Devil's Aura
15. Devil's Stamina
18. Dark Speech

Skills:
Bluff
Decipher Script
Diplomacy
Intimidate
Healing
Knowledge: Arcana
Knowledge: Nature
Knowledge: Religion
Knowledge: The Planes
Spellcraft[/spoiler]

Verily, is this not a vile witch who best conveys the concept, nay the very reality, of one who has sold his soul to Satan?

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[edit] And possibly a shrubbery.
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Re: The greatest monk build ever!
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2011, 01:05:13 PM »
Now, "Giacomo", sit back and allow me to show you a sorcerer as build by a real optimizer for the medieval/historical campaign, which will overshadow even your attempt.

THE ULTIMATE SORCERER OF ULTIMATE DESTINY!
[spoiler]
Human Expert 20
Stats: STR: 10 DEX: 10 CON: 10 INT: 20 WIS: 10 CHA: 20

Feats:
1. Devil's Favor
1. Fiendish Heritage
3. Devil's Tongue
6. Fiendish Presence
9. Fiendish Legacy
12. Devil's Aura
15. Devil's Stamina
18. Dark Speech

Skills:
Bluff
Decipher Script
Diplomacy
Intimidate
Healing
Knowledge: Arcana
Knowledge: Nature
Knowledge: Religion
Knowledge: The Planes
Spellcraft[/spoiler]

Verily, is this not a vile witch who best conveys the concept, nay the very reality, of one who has sold his soul to Satan?

-Solo
Needs moar duck.

[edit] And possibly a shrubbery.
Wasn't there a Warforged feat that makes your body out of wood?