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Making a powerful Psion
« on: April 06, 2011, 02:09:46 AM »
Any ideas for min-maxing a Psion?

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 02:13:06 AM »
Schism.

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The Legend RPG, which I worked on and encourage you to read.

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 02:18:23 AM »
Depends on what you want. I can optimize the hell out of psionics, but...what do you want to do?

Psionics goes especially well on its own, as well as with ToB and Magic of Incarnum.
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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 02:20:44 AM »
Depends on what you want. I can optimize the hell out of psionics, but...what do you want to do?

Psionics goes especially well on its own, as well as with ToB and Magic of Incarnum.


I just want to make a Psion that can actually contribute something to combat. The campaign is epic-level so it is really hard to keep up with the damage output of other characters. Schism is nice, but it burns through PP so fast that you can't keep going for too long and the damage just isn't enough in epic.

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 02:30:05 AM »
Don't focus on damage.

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 02:53:55 AM »
Don't focus on damage.


I have a strong preference towards a damage-oriented focus, but what alternative would you suggest?

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 02:55:37 AM »
Battlefield Control? Buffing? Summoning Astral Constructs to beat people up for you?

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 03:05:10 AM »
If it's epic level, I have a few suggestions.

Such as, go anarchic initiate, then take metamind once you reach ML 20, then take Practiced Manifester. Get some infinite-pp going, and spam Empowered Empowered Chaotic-Surged Tornado Blasts using lots and lots of actions to blow up the bad guys. Schism can help here, too, especially if you're Fissioned.
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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 03:08:07 AM »
+1 Lycanthromancer, infinite PP and recharge mechanics aren't a huge power boost at this level -- it's hard to run out of spell slots usually.  But, it will be freeing, letting you cut loose no matter what, and Psionics is quite good for abusing action economy. 

I think at epic level Astral Constructs, like all non-Gate-based summoning, end up being useless. 

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 03:13:12 AM »
They never released anything to support Epic Constructs?

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2011, 03:14:54 AM »
They never released anything to support Epic Constructs?
Oh jeez, I have absolutely no idea.  Did they ever produce any support for epic-level Summon Monster?  Outside of Gate, that is.

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 03:18:30 AM »

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2011, 03:20:20 AM »
+1 Lycanthromancer, infinite PP and recharge mechanics aren't a huge power boost at this level -- it's hard to run out of spell slots usually.  But, it will be freeing, letting you cut loose no matter what, and Psionics is quite good for abusing action economy. 

I think at epic level Astral Constructs, like all non-Gate-based summoning, end up being useless. 

Which book is Lycanthromancer in?

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2011, 03:22:41 AM »
If it's epic level, I have a few suggestions.

Such as, go anarchic initiate, then take metamind once you reach ML 20, then take Practiced Manifester. Get some infinite-pp going, and spam Empowered Empowered Chaotic-Surged Tornado Blasts using lots and lots of actions to blow up the bad guys. Schism can help here, too, especially if you're Fissioned.

Thanks : )
I had considered Metamind before but I didn't think of Anarchic Initiate. I'll take a look at that.

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 03:25:51 AM »
Schism+Synchitoricity
Fixed that for you ;)

Sense Danger (MoE)+synchitoricity is also made of win

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2011, 03:40:40 AM »
+1 Lycanthromancer, infinite PP and recharge mechanics aren't a huge power boost at this level -- it's hard to run out of spell slots usually.  But, it will be freeing, letting you cut loose no matter what, and Psionics is quite good for abusing action economy. 

I think at epic level Astral Constructs, like all non-Gate-based summoning, end up being useless. 

Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
That would be me, actually. Check the handle on my posts.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
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[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
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+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2011, 03:47:08 AM »
+1 Lycanthromancer, infinite PP and recharge mechanics aren't a huge power boost at this level -- it's hard to run out of spell slots usually.  But, it will be freeing, letting you cut loose no matter what, and Psionics is quite good for abusing action economy. 

I think at epic level Astral Constructs, like all non-Gate-based summoning, end up being useless. 

Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
That would be me, actually. Check the handle on my posts.

Oh! Ha, sorry ^_^

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2011, 03:51:25 AM »
Also, don't underestimate the power of really low-level powers.

Such as Psionic Grease.

I mean, you can pretty much screw over epic golems for 1 pp.

You might also want to multiclass into ardent or something after ML 20, then epic PrC it so you can increase your pp pool.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
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My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
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+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2011, 04:55:57 AM »
If it's epic level, I have a few suggestions.

Such as, go anarchic initiate, then take metamind once you reach ML 20, then take Practiced Manifester. Get some infinite-pp going, and spam Empowered Empowered Chaotic-Surged Tornado Blasts using lots and lots of actions to blow up the bad guys. Schism can help here, too, especially if you're Fissioned.

Thanks : )
I had considered Metamind before but I didn't think of Anarchic Initiate. I'll take a look at that.
I only played it till 15th level, but it was great fun and did help out w/ the blastiness.  Also, I found Illithid Slayer handy for its Mind Blank and "you can't see me!" effects.  Though those are perhaps gotten more easily through other methods when you are really high level. 

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Re: Making a powerful Psion
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2011, 05:35:10 AM »
The best part about slayer is that the Mind Blank effect only blocks bad stuff. Everything else, like bard music, comes right on through.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]