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Prices needed
« on: July 17, 2008, 05:53:53 PM »
So, the Fael refuses to shut his mouth, and keeps insisting about him being perfectly able to defeat any spellcaster he comes across. I'd like to do a price check on his equipment, which consists of the following:

+10 Shield (may or may not function as a weapon)
+7 weapon (+10 if shield is not a weapon) with either Glassteel or Soeren wood.
+10 Mithral Breastplate
Stat boosters for Int, Dex, Con, and Str
Torc of AMF 1/day
Ring of Protection from Evil (constant)
Ring of Freedom of Movement
A means of flight
Belt of Battle
Boots of Haste
Evasion through some means that doesn't deny him his ring slots

And that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Those are all items he has referenced. The build he is going to be working with is his Lockdown build, as he seems to think it is invincible.


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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 06:09:31 PM »
Remember that items can be stacked now via MIC, so evasion not taking up rings is no longer an issue.

Also, he keeps insisting on having an item of permanent Mind Blank, so throw that in there too.  Third Eye Conceal is the only item I know that does that, from MIC, and it's 120kgp.

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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 06:11:14 PM »
SRD much?
So, the Fael refuses to shut his mouth, and keeps insisting about him being perfectly able to defeat any spellcaster he comes across. I'd like to do a price check on his equipment, which consists of the following:

+10 Shield (may or may not function as a weapon) 100000
+7 weapon (+10 if shield is not a weapon) with either Glassteel or Soeren wood. 98000 for the enchantments
+10 Mithral Breastplate 104000
Stat boosters for Int, Dex, Con, and Str 36000 each for +6 items
Torc of AMF 1/day 10000 I think
Ring of Protection from Evil (constant) Who knows? 2000 if your DM is on crack
Ring of Freedom of Movement 40000
A means of flight varies alot. Winged boots are 16000, though.
Belt of Battle IIRC about 11000. I'm pretty sure this is in the Bunko's thread.
Boots of Haste 10000
Evasion through some means that doesn't deny him his ring slots 50000 (slotless ring)

And that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Those are all items he has referenced. The build he is going to be working with is his Lockdown build, as he seems to think it is invincible.

I think there is a Harper mask that gives you permanent Mind Blank, also.
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Re: Prices needed
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 06:13:20 PM »
+10 Shield (may or may not function as a weapon).............................................+10 armor/shield1 100,000 gp +Shield, heavy, steel +170 gp
can be modified with: Bashing:Price +1 bonus.

or

Ranged: Price +1 bonus.



+7 weapon (+10 if shield is not a weapon) with either Glassteel or Soeren wood........ +7= 98,000 gp +masterwork weapon + 5000gp Glassteel or +2000 Serren Wood..... or +10= 200,000 gp +masterwork weapon + 5000gp Glassteel or +2000 Serren Wood
+10 Mithral Breastplate.......................................................... +10 armor/shield1 100,000 gp ++4,000 gp Mithral


Stat boosters for Int, Dex, Con, and Str..................... 4k = +2 stat, 16k= +4 stat, 32k= +6 Stat


Torc of AMF 1/day................................................... (Spell level x caster level x 1,800 gp)/5 .. assume 6th lvl Spell and lowest CL to cast it = 6 x 11 = 66 x1800= 118800 / 5(one per day)= 23760gp

Ring of Protection from Evil (constant)....................... Spell level x caster level x 2,000 gp, If a continuous item has an effect based on a spell with a duration measured in rounds, multiply the cost by 4. If the duration of the spell is 1 minute/level, multiply the cost by 2, and if the duration is 10 minutes/level, multiply the cost by 1.5. If the spell has a 24-hour duration or greater, divide the cost in half.

1 x12 x 2000 = 24000 x 2(Duration factor) = 48000gp

Ring of Freedom of Movement .................................. Freedom of movement 40,000 gp


A means of flight ..................................... ? ? ?


Belt of Battle ............................................ ? ? ?


Boots of Haste .................................................. Boots of Speed: As a free action, the wearer can click her boot heels together, enabling her to act as though affected by a haste spell for up to 10 rounds each day. The duration of the haste effect need not be consecutive rounds.Moderate transmutation; CL 10th; Craft Wondrous Item, haste; Price 12,000 gp;Weight 1 lb.




Evasion through some means that doesn't deny him his ring slots................ Ring of Evasion 25,000 gp ..... on Hand of Glory:taking up space as a magic necklace would). If a magic ring is placed on one of the fingers of the hand, the wearer benefits from the ring as if wearing it herself, and it does not count against her two-ring limit. The hand can wear only one ring at a time.Even without a ring, the hand itself allows its wearer to use daylight and see invisibility each once per day.Faint varied; CL 5th; Craft Wondrous Item, animate dead, daylight, detect invisibility; Price 8,000 gp;Weight 2 lb.

total cost 33000gp ring and Hand, or 50000gp for an Unslotted item of Evasion


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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 06:18:34 PM »
*Breaks out DMG*

+10 Shield (may or may not function as a weapon) => 100 000 gp

+7 weapon (+10 if shield is not a weapon) with either Glassteel or Soeren wood.
=> 98 000 gp for +7, 200 000gp for +10, never heard of the materials.

+10 Mithral Breastplate => 100 000 gp + mithral breastplate cost (too lazy to check :P)

Stat boosters for Int, Dex, Con, and Str
=> +6 is 36 000 gp, 4 stats means 144000 total

Torc of AMF 1/day
=> level 6 spell x CL11 x 1800 (command word) = 118 800 gp

Ring of Protection from Evil (constant)
=> level 1 spell x CL12 (needed for Forge Ring) x 2000 (continuous) = 24 000 gp

Ring of Freedom of Movement
=> level 4 spell x CL7 x 1800 gp (command word) = 50 400 gp

Belt of Battle
=> 12 000 gp

Boots of Haste
=> Boots of Speed = 12000 gp

A means of flight
=> Winged Boots (3/day, up to 5 minutes at a time) = 16 000 gp

=> Stack on top of Boots of Speed, so x1.5 = 12 000 + 16 000x1.5 = 36000 gp total

Evasion through some means that doesn't deny him his ring slots
=> Stack on top of existing ring, so x1.5 = 1.5x25000 = 37 500 gp


TOTAL (not including special materials and weapon and armor base costs etc.): 720 700 gp with the +7 weapon or
822 700 gp with the +10 weapon
« Last Edit: July 17, 2008, 07:02:26 PM by BowenSilverclaw »
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Re: Prices needed
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 06:21:14 PM »
I'll look up either Glassteel or Soeren wood, he listed the books they were in so I can check them with ease.


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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 06:23:45 PM »
where is the thread you are talking about?

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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 06:41:45 PM »
where is the thread you are talking about?

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The Celerity thread on Faelmax.


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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 06:45:25 PM »
got a link?

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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 06:53:08 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 06:56:25 PM »
heres the Torc:

Antimagic Torc(Und p73) Antimagic Field, 1/day. Neck slot,  25,000gp

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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2008, 07:17:34 PM »
He's over-limit, even with Ancestral Relic. He needs Leadership for an Artificer just to put himself within range of this damn price tag, much less to call himself playable (as some DMs won't allow you to add one item's effects onto another's due to the headache it causes when trying to price it). He's using several slots he doesn't even have, and that's after you combine the Rings into a pair.

Note that I'm counting the persistent Mind Blank, a means of getting SR, and the Inherent bonuses he's no doubt using, and the Polymorph effect he desires so much (as he can't have Potions of it, the next best thing is the Psychoactive Skin). His build is under after the Artificer is finished.


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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 07:20:15 PM »
And don't forget, if that's the way he wants to play, the wizard can have a crapton worth of gear as well :P

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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2008, 07:35:45 PM »
And don't forget, if that's the way he wants to play, the wizard can have a crapton worth of gear as well :P



I'm gonna laugh when he tries to argue it.


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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2008, 07:40:20 PM »
im not so sure about that .... from what i saw .... he could have a Viable character


whats wrong with potions of Polymorph?.... they exist... Dragons Blood Elixers.. in Dracominicon........... IIRC, Gold Dragon blood Elixer is a Polymorph effect with 10 minute Duration... and they are an (EX) effect

from what he was saying...... he is using a 1/2 Minotaur Barbarian 5/ Bearwarrior 10/ Frenzied Berserker 5 ... or 1/2 Minotaur Barbarian 5/ Bearwarrior 10/ Warhulk 5...... both get Huge Str boosts

but he is incorrect.... Ghost touch does not hit Etherial .... it is effective vs Incorporeal ....

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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2008, 07:51:20 PM »
Potions can't be higher than 3rd level spells, and Polymorph is a 4th level spell. The elixirs are specifically for Dragonic forms, and are Wondrous items, not potions. Secondly, he uses those builds for STr, not Lockdown (FB alone negates his ability to establish Lockdown because he can't get the Mage Slayer tree with the Dragon mag expansion along with Thicket of Blades).


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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2008, 07:53:03 PM »
Potions can't be higher than 3rd level spells, and Polymorph is a 4th level spell. The elixirs are specifically for Dragonic forms, and are Wondrous items, not potions.
the Elixers can be used by any Race .... IIRC

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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2008, 08:08:10 PM »
Potions can't be higher than 3rd level spells, and Polymorph is a 4th level spell. The elixirs are specifically for Dragonic forms, and are Wondrous items, not potions.
the Elixers can be used by any Race .... IIRC

will check on it

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I mean that they offer Dragonic polymorphs only, not the ones he uses most often.


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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2008, 12:38:05 AM »
Underdark has armour granting permanent mindblank. Works out to about 150,000gp for such a benefit (not including the armour), so it isn't cheap, but the benefit is arguably worth it (or alternatively, just ask the wizard to cast it on you). This also makes the prot from evil ring redundant (assuming the purpose is to prevent spellcasters from exerting their domination influence on you).
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2008, 07:03:32 AM »
The point is he's gone from warrior vs. wizard to entire party vs. wizard  :wall
He's now even talking about using a melee cleric vs. the wizard.

Kinda defeats the whole purpose of spell-less melee character vs. wizard methinks  :fo
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