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Gain SU and EX abilities of a creature?
« on: February 25, 2011, 03:48:28 AM »
Hey people, im just looking for a way to gain the SU and EX abilities of a creature for a few hours and still maintain class abilities.

Basically, we have a massive army fight coming up, we have a bucket load of legion devils and im looking for a way to make the party also dcount as legiion devils for the fight.
I seen the spells in Serpent Kingdoms but the permantnt 2 HD loss is a bit extreme to borrow the ability for a few hours!

Anyone know of another way i could try do this?


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Re: Gain SU and EX abilities of a creature?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 07:57:43 AM »
Normally you build yourself for something like this.

I believe Master of Many Forms (Complete Adventurer) and Master Transmogrifist (Complete Arcane) can do what you're looking for, but not 100% sure.
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Re: Gain SU and EX abilities of a creature?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 08:12:53 AM »
with a DM fiat you could use Investure of the Steel Devil for the same effect.. otherwise assume supernatural ability from savage spieces will probably have the same effect for your resident shapechanger
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Re: Gain SU and EX abilities of a creature?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 08:40:26 AM »
a druid 5, planar shepherd 9 can do it as long as he choses a plane that those devils are native to (shavarath, bator etc...)
this will get you EX SU and SP :o of any outsider or elemental native to the chosen plane(within your ws HD limit)

if he had a level of hierophant, he can grant uses of his wildshape to others,

so if you could just find this guy and hire(force, bribe, enthrall etc...) him to give his wildshape uses to the party for the day... you're set

note: you are now able to ws into any other form the planar shepherd, hierophant could wildshape into for that time period... (chosen by the hierophant when he gives the ability)

EDIT: just realized that devil is 3 HD... what level is the party at? ... and are you the DM?
...and what does the party look like, are we talking 7 optimized wizards here? or more like a monk, 2 rogues and a healer?
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Re: Gain SU and EX abilities of a creature?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 09:18:31 AM »
Yeah man i figured ya would usually build a char for this kinda thing.
I was actually just trolling through all 3.5 books for spells to help the party out in the coming massive fight, and when i stumbled across the spell in serpent kingdoms it gave me this idea.

But since the permanent 2hd loss it a bit bloody stupid i was hoping there was another way to do it.
Sure i might try work in a miracle to the casting of the spell and see if my DM will drop the HD loss, lol

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Re: Gain SU and EX abilities of a creature?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 10:47:17 AM »
Master Transmogrifist.

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Re: Gain SU and EX abilities of a creature?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 06:35:46 PM »

Yeah man i figured ya would usually build a char for this kinda thing.

I was actually just trolling through all 3.5 books for spells to help the party out in the coming massive fight,
and when i stumbled across the spell in serpent kingdoms it gave me this idea.


Metamorphic Transfer feat gets (su) abilities,
around level 5 or so, and is standard stock for psi builds.

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