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Need a Vile Cleric Build
« on: February 25, 2011, 03:00:24 AM »
Need help designing an evil cleric for an evil campaign. It'll be a 20th level CE vasharan cleric/?. He'll also be given Prodigy for free (it's now a +1 LA in that campaign) for a total of ECL 21.

Books allowed are Book of Vile Darkness, the core books, the Complete Books, Unearthed Arcana, and Libris Mortis for the class books. The MIC and SPC are also allowed. Doing 32 point system and being given 760k to play with. As well, we're only allowed to used a manual/tome once per modifier. Meaning that we're allowed to use a manual of gainful exercise +4 and +5, but we can't use two manuals gainful exercise +5. We're also allowed one flaw, but that's optional.

We don't have to choose a deity, but if we do we're limited to Demogorgon, Hextor, and Gruumsh.

I was thinking of a cloistered cleric/warlock/eldritch disciple.

You don't see too many good evil clerics out there. At least not CE evil ones. This one in particular's supposed to be taking on his evil twin brother. It's basically a LG vs CE mini-campaign. We've already got a Paladin of Slaughter/Hexblade/Blackguard who's going to be taking on his younger LG Paladin of Honor/Hospitaler/Justicar brother.
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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 07:24:33 AM »
Tomes and Manuals give inherent bonuses to an ability score.  They do not stack.  This includes using a +1 tome at first, and then a +4 tome later, you do not wind up with a +5 inherent bonus to the ability score (although an argument can be made if you use them in rapid succession, but that's likely not RAW).  Furthermore, inherent bonuses to ability scores are hard-capped at +5.

In any case, the Cleric handbook still pretty much applies 100%.  If you have a specific shtick you wanted to go into, then maybe you would deviate a little in feat picks, but otherwise not so much.

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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 07:38:49 AM »
Something with Ur-Priest? o: Vasharan = (evil) Human, right? Warlock/x/Ur-Priest/Eldritch Disciple and maybe fit in Chameleon 2, or not.
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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 07:40:38 AM »
I allways suggest going Eldrich disciple with a Necromancer stich so I'll do so again.. try being a servant of an Elder Evil.. It'll help with the vile feats. I suppose Incarnum or ToM are out of the question? If so find a way to heal Str damage so you can cast multiple Lahm's finger darts without problem... It's a win button for most fights..
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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 12:41:28 PM »
Throw in a level of Tainted Sorcerer, "All spells a tainted sorcerer casts are evil spells"

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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 12:55:11 PM »
I suppose Incarnum or ToM are out of the question?
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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 01:20:33 PM »
If you go Walock route then Ur-Priest for sure. BoVD has some sick evil spells in it.Get ability damage immunity and go to town with Corrupted spells.

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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 02:58:11 PM »
The only warlock ur-priest I've been able to find so far is one that has Hellfire Warlock attached to it.
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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 03:05:06 PM »
Found this one. Warlock6/Mindbender1/Ur-Priest2/Eldritch Disciple10

It's considered to be "very nasty at higher levels".
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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2011, 03:29:36 PM »
Is Hellfire Warlock not okay? It's a good class. Consider entering Prestige Paladin[of Slaughter] to grab the spell list and Battle Blessing for a ton of things to do with Swift Actions. If you're going into Epic then Warlock can be really fun, they get super neat Epic feats. You could go Binder/Tenebrous and still combine that with Warlock and Ur Priest.

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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2011, 05:42:16 PM »
If you go Walock route then Ur-Priest for sure. BoVD has some sick evil spells in it.Get ability damage immunity and go to town with Corrupted spells.
Sadly you cannot use Corrupt spells if you are immune to ability damage. get a wand of bodily restoration to heal it afterwards, thats allways nice.
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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2011, 06:48:26 PM »
If you go Walock route then Ur-Priest for sure. BoVD has some sick evil spells in it.Get ability damage immunity and go to town with Corrupted spells.
Sadly you cannot use Corrupt spells if you are immune to ability damage. get a wand of bodily restoration to heal it afterwards, thats allways nice.
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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2011, 07:02:01 PM »
Sadly you cannot use Corrupt spells if you are immune to ability damage. get a wand of bodily restoration to heal it afterwards, thats allways nice.
  :bigeye :(Really? Where does it say that? I'm not seeing it in BoVD.

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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2011, 12:24:44 AM »
Could be the general rule of one not being able to benefit by taking damage they are immune to. Similar to the Hellfire Warlock shenanigans.

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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2011, 01:02:45 AM »
Is Hellfire Warlock not okay? It's a good class. Consider entering Prestige Paladin[of Slaughter]...
No, it's not okay and neither of a prestige paladin, bard, or ranger.
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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2011, 02:33:37 AM »
Could be the general rule of one not being able to benefit by taking damage they are immune to. Similar to the Hellfire Warlock shenanigans.
Hellfire Warlock has an explicit mention. Corrupted spells don't.

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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2011, 11:42:31 AM »
Could be the general rule of one not being able to benefit by taking damage they are immune to. Similar to the Hellfire Warlock shenanigans.
Hellfire Warlock has an explicit mention. Corrupted spells don't.
They don't now do they... I sure hope MY DM interprit it that same way... If your's does go Necropolitan!
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Re: Need a Vile Cleric Build
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2011, 11:59:42 AM »
Could be the general rule of one not being able to benefit by taking damage they are immune to. Similar to the Hellfire Warlock shenanigans.
Hellfire Warlock has an explicit mention. Corrupted spells don't.
Point taken, but it seems rather odd that one could gain the benefits without paying the associated costs. Something of a 'it doesn't say I can't' argument. Then again, I haven't read those rules in a while.

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