Needless Complications RPG

[emissary666]

I am trying to make the most needlessly complicated rpg, but I am in need of help. I have neither the resources, experience, or time to actually put together the most complicated rules I can think of. So far, I am looking for inspiration from GURPS (which I have never played) and FATAL (which I shall never play), but I need more systems to draw upon. Any suggestions?

[Littha]

I advise you to rethink FATAL, it is the greatest game I have ever played and from then on I will never play another RPG. The rules for working out the vaginal circumference of a 10 year old are my favourite even if they can go into the negatives.

[Amechra]

Also, FATAL is too simple. I suggest you look at that Star Trek RPG that had you run square roots for some of the equations.

I can help add needless complexity, right here; from now on, the modifiers are equal to the integral of x to the power of that statistic minus your age plus your height in centimeters from zero to the nth decimal expansion of pi to the nth, where n is your shoe size.

Confusing, huh?

[emissary666]

Also, FATAL is too simple. I suggest you look at that Star Trek RPG that had you run square roots for some of the equations.

I can help add needless complexity, right here; from now on, the modifiers are equal to the integral of x to the power of that statistic minus your age plus your height in centimeters from zero to the nth decimal expansion of pi to the nth, where n is your shoe size.

Confusing, huh?

FATAL is simple, but creating a character requires rolls for the most needless of things, like anal circumference, and can end up pretty weird, like an infant capable of performing Goatse. Also, while insane equations will be an option for GMs, I'm trying to look at the basics, things that make the game look playable. For the more advanced crazy things, there is a rule that anytime a character critically succeeds or fails, a new complication is rolled or declared (ie: players may no longer turn left)

[RobbyPants]

I've never played FATAL or GURPS, but I've heard stories.  The worst I've played is just 2E D&D.  It's worst problem was it's a combination of low stat to slow stat (THAC0 vs AC) to roll high on some things, and saving throw tables where low values are good and high rolls are good, combined with ability checks where you want to roll under your stat (low roll is good), and sometimes percentile dice thrown in for the lulz.  It was workable, but it was so arbitrary, and you needed to remember so much shit just to make the game keep moving.

It was bad to the point that I still have some of the common tables memorized and I haven't played 2E in over ten years.

[Necrosnoop110]

It was bad to the point that I still have some of the common tables memorized and I haven't played 2E in over ten years.

Yes, so true.

[Shadeseraph]

Remember also that FATAL is the most historically accurate game out there, which add more complication by adding ways of submiting a woman. Remember the complex moral implications of this, by which you can sell her, violate her, let your friends rape her, kill her, ask for a ransom from her family, or all the previous instances altogether.

Alternatelly, you could take a look to HERO system. It's a pretty good one, but it requires too much effort to play.