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Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« on: February 10, 2011, 06:40:20 AM »
Lets say you wanted to optimize a Divine Crusader, and decided that the best way to do so was to take 5 domains, via PrCs like Contemplative and Sovereign Speaker, instead of 1.  What would be the best combination?  Also, let's assume that you will follow this up with an Ordained Champion dip to turn a couple of useless abilities into Fighter feats.
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Re: Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011, 07:02:12 AM »
Let's say it's any Domain, shall we? Destiny, Spell, Shadow, Hero and Time, maybe? Summoner is another REALLY good option.
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Re: Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2011, 07:18:11 AM »
Quote from: CantripN on February 10, 2011, 07:02:12 AM
Let's say it's any Domain, shall we? Destiny, Spell, Shadow, Hero and Time, maybe? Summoner is another REALLY good option.

Sooo...basically give him a Scythe and call him "Magus"?
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Re: Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 07:27:12 AM »
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Below my musings about possible crusader picks (PHB/SpC):
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Strength domainWar DomainLuck domain
Entropic shield   protection from evil, shield, resist energy (duskblade)
Aid   
Prot from energy   dispel magic, anticipate teleportation,
Freedom of move   mass resist energy,
Break enchant   spell theft
Mislead   resistance superior, greater dispel
Spell turning   
Moment of presc   mind blank,
Miracle   maw of chaos, absorption
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Re: Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 07:31:34 AM »
...and Archivists just got divine versions of every spell ever.  Yeesh.

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Re: Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 07:46:54 AM »
Quote from: JaronK on February 10, 2011, 07:31:34 AM
...and Archivists just got divine versions of every spell ever.  Yeesh.

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They were already pretty damn close.  Between Hexers and Divine Bards they pretty much only lacked spells exclusive to classes like the Hexblade and Assassin.

Also, while I'm usually fine with Dragon stuff, that feat in particular is just plain ridiculous, and completely invalidates the need for this thread.

Also, epic Magus references are epic.
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Re: Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 06:28:04 PM »
Are we focusing on domain spells, domain abilities, or a healthy mix? We also have to make sure the spell lists don't overlap.

Time and Spell are my top 2 choices for a generic character. Luck domain is pretty nice too for the free reroll, freedom of movement, and miracle. Travel will get you some good utility spells. Finally summoner fills out the list.
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Re: Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 06:34:39 PM »
Open your copy of Races of Eberron. There's a domain called Transformation in there that can be taken by anyone with the Shapechanger subtype (who gets access to domains). Guess what spells it gives. Go ahead, guess.
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Re: Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2011, 06:36:25 PM »
This is striking me more and more like an ardent...
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Re: Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2011, 07:55:36 PM »
Quote from: ninjarabbit on February 11, 2011, 06:28:04 PM
Are we focusing on domain spells, domain abilities, or a healthy mix? We also have to make sure the spell lists don't overlap.

Time and Spell are my top 2 choices for a generic character. Luck domain is pretty nice too for the free reroll, freedom of movement, and miracle. Travel will get you some good utility spells. Finally summoner fills out the list.
I think spells should take priority, but domain abilities like Travel (assuming you can apply your Divine Crusader level in place of/in addition to your Cleric level) should absolutely be taken note of.

Quote from: Littha on February 11, 2011, 06:36:25 PM
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Kinda is.
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Re: Creating a Divine Crusader spell list.
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 12:32:15 AM »
The Force domain can be interesting with the Invisible Needle Reserve feat.  Kind of like playing a mini-warlock with force eldrich blast.  Someone already beat me to the punch with the custumize domain feat, Magic is the obvious choice (or Spell if you DM expands the list) since it lets you substitue any spell in just one level higher.
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