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[lans]

Gods_Trick:  Truenamer
Midnight_v: Shadowcaster, or Melee Warrior
Littha: ?? / Shadow Sentinel
Amechra: Warlock / Io7V
The_Mad_Linguist: Spellthief?
Shadeseraph: Incarnate/DFA or Binder/Crusader
Bkdubs123: Factotum?/Warblade?
Kaelik:

Is this still right as far as who's playing what?

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Yeah, I'm a spellthief.
Ability score math
STR 12 DEX 16 CON 14 INT 12 WIS 8 CHA 15 (32 point buy)
+2 dex -2 wis  +2 cha +1 cha (levels)
STR 12 DEX 18 CON 14 INT 12 WIS 6 CHA 18

[Shadeseraph]

I'm playing the Binder/crusader. Some details to polish, like equipment, but it's almost complete. I think I'm going to redo the character sheet in myth weavers... TML's looks awesome.

Final level / point buy amount? Looks like TML has assumed lvl 7 & 36 points. If that's the appropiate amount, I have some changes to do. (I assumed lvl 6 & 32 points)

EDIT: Ok, NVM, it was a work in progress. So level 6 and 32 PB it is.

BTW, how much reflavouring do you allow?

[Krika]

I was interested in playing. DFA, Shadowcaster, Binder, or Truenamer. Probably one of the last 3, although I'm leaving it open based on what party composition we come up with and what others wish to play. Is it alright if I join, or are there two many people?

[Littha]

Depending which group I get in I will build to fill holes in composition.

free reign i would probably try and work out some shadowcaster gish concept...

[The_Mad_Linguist]

I'm playing the Binder/crusader. Some details to polish, like equipment, but it's almost complete. I think I'm going to redo the character sheet in myth weavers... TML's looks awesome.

Final level / point buy amount? Looks like TML has assumed lvl 7 & 36 points. If that's the appropiate amount, I have some changes to do. (I assumed lvl 6 & 32 points)

BTW, how much reflavouring do you allow?

That's 32 points, and level 6 (I'm using lesser d'hin'ni.  They get +2 cha +2 dex -2 wis)

[lans]

I was interested in playing. DFA, Shadowcaster, Binder, or Truenamer. Probably one of the last 3, although I'm leaving it open based on what party composition we come up with and what others wish to play. Is it alright if I join, or are there two many people?

Thats fine, though I'm banning the summoning vestige. I think its going to be too powerful with what were working with.

[Shadeseraph]

I'm playing the Binder/crusader. Some details to polish, like equipment, but it's almost complete. I think I'm going to redo the character sheet in myth weavers... TML's looks awesome.

Final level / point buy amount? Looks like TML has assumed lvl 7 & 36 points. If that's the appropiate amount, I have some changes to do. (I assumed lvl 6 & 32 points)

BTW, how much reflavouring do you allow?

That's 32 points, and level 6 (I'm using lesser d'hin'ni.  They get +2 cha +2 dex -2 wis)

I saw the sheet before you reworked it (an older character?). It was a mechanuswhatever Spellthief 5 / DM Heir 2. Now that I think about it, I should have noticed that it didn't match your previous sketch (it wasn't godsblood). Sorry for the misunderstanding.

EDIT: In fact, I have to thank you for showing the previous sheet. I'm not too versed on equipment optimization, but that character had some nice ideas, such as the Cyrite material for the armor. A non-slotted cloak of resistance +1 for half the price? yes, thanks.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

I guess mythweavers didn't save my changes even though it said it did... eh, whatever.

[Shadeseraph]

Well, It's almost done. Some tweaking to do with nonmagical equipment and descriptions, but, overall, I think it's done:

Ryhel Deis

[Gods_Trick]

Just bumping the question. Are we using any of the fixes for Truenamers, and is it considered an arcane or divine class?

[Shadeseraph]

I made a summary of the rules as far as we know them from the posts of lans. The truenamer "fix" is present there:

Truenamer casting is also modified:

I changed truenaming calculations to 15+1.5*CR. Not a big change, but 45 vs level 20 is much more doable than 55.  

EDIT: I'm using a custom magic item, a pair of Armbands of Lesser Strength +1 for 1000 gp. Any problem?

[Kaelik]

How about a pair of reincarnated dvati dragonfire adepts?

[Midnight_v]

Hmm... we still doing this? Seems like some major lag.

[lans]

Sorry, this is taking longer than I thought it would.

Funny thing is that if this was live we would of had almost of of this stuff settled in an hour.

The armband+1 is fine.

[Shadeseraph]

Nice, my char is done then, except for the fluff. I'll put the link to the sheet in the post with the rules. Also, I'll link TML's sheet too. If you want a different title, just ask . Right now, it's "Aerie Greenwind, Spellthief extraordinaire".

BTW, I just realized the dragonborn can make dive attacks with any piercing weapons, and not only talons. I've got my hands on a decent damage source now . I'm sure it can be abused in more focused builds than mine.

[Littha]

I'm still looking at Shadowcaster 5/Eldrich Knight 10/??? 5 for a shadowcaster gish. Other than that I have a few characters built already depending on what the party is missing.

[Shadeseraph]

Use the shadowcaster build. If you wait for the others to make a character, we will be waiting forever. Let the last ones be the ones who have to adapt to the existing group.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

As is, I just want a lot of tasty SLAs in the party.

Trying to figure out what to get with my 13k... considering a legacy weapon, since some of those abilities are (sp).  I'm going to end up as the world's most eclectic utility warlock.

... let's see if anything spammable is worthwhile.  At sixth level I'd have two slot A abilities or one slot B...

A)
[spoiler]Cause fear (decent debuff if it hits)
CLW (already have)
Darkness(self only; we have a warlock)
Darkvision (could have it on the whole party... but not spectacular)
False life (10 temp hp could be good, but not spectacular)
Magic Missile (we have a warlock)
Mirror image (could be useful)
Protection from arrows(could have it on the whole party)
Resist energy (could have it up on the whole party)
See Invisibility (if nobody else can...)
Summon Monster II (Look mom!  I'm a binder!)[/spoiler]

B)[spoiler]
Charm person (swift, which means it could be spammable every round!)
Cure moderate (either as a standard action on anyone, or 1/day as a swift action only on myself.  But I already have unlimited CLW)
Flaming sphere (we have a warlock)
Locate object (interesting?  I guess?)
Lesser restoration (going to be a long while before I can spam my 1/day Restoration, so this might be useful)
Web (entangling breath makes this kind of pointless)
Whispering Wind (have it racially)[/spoiler]


Let's see.  Most of these are, combat-wise, pretty useless since it takes two rounds to pull out a free use.  The best of the lot is definitely summon monster II for the mini-Zceryll/summon elemental utility.  The others I could take or leave - recasting a buff every six minutes would get old fast, and while resist energy and protection from arrows are good, I don't necessarily see them as being worth more than some other legacy ability.

[Shadeseraph]

Well, lans has forbidden the use of Zceryll, so I suppose some way to summon creatures is nice. Abysm grants Astral Construct, but he is a 8 level vestige.