*Brainstorming* Chronicles of the Last War

[Bozwevial]

Alright, fair enough. Gadgeteer Genius is probably something that would work better outside of an E6 game, so I'll find something else instead.

[Prime32]

Sadly I think warforged are not allowed, as they weren't around when the war started.

Correct.

I can think of one explanation.

"Give me your crossbow, your clothes, and your horse."

[bearsarebrown]

Can I have Maneuvers above 3rd level? Going to build a fear based Cleric Crusader.

[Sohala]

-The additional levels (7-12), will work exactly as gestalt regarding everything else (like max skill ranks) except you can use the first 6 levels to qualify for PrCs in these levels, right?

I think correct, well, class feature doubling up does factor in. If for some reason you took wizard as your first level, and then sorcerer as your seventh level, you would have two familiars.

Assuming you haven't taken feats to increase the cap, skills are still capped at 9, even with 7-12, thought it best to state that.

-You say 'PrCs that advance spellcasting, will only advance spells slots up to 3rd'. Do they advance caster level too? As in let's say: a wizard 6/master specialist 6; will he get CL 12 and the same spell slots as a wizard 12, except only for levels 0-3?

I am leaning towards CL not increasing due to advanced spell casting. If a class feature/feat/equipment increases it then that is fine, but other than that, your CL will be capped at 6 from class levels, and then 9 with bloodlines.

I'm thinking about something like Maeluth Warblade 1/Wizard 5/Incantatrix 3/Abjurant Champion 2 and there are a couple of mechanical things I'd like to clear with you first:

-How does Reach Spell interact with Metamagic Effect and Persisntet Spell? For example, Bull's Strength by default can't be persisted, but Bull's Strength cast with Reach Spell can (since it's a fixed range spell). So, if I cast a Bull's Str with Reach Spell on myself, can I persist it afterward using Metamagic Effect?
-Do you allow any magic items that grant competence bonus to skills (by the creation rules from the DMG), or only the ones that already exist in the books?
-Also, what's your opinion on Wraithstrike?

Land lastly, if you (or anyone else) feel such a char(Persistent Alter Self (dwarf ancestor) and other similar goodies) would be beyond the scope of E6 or the campaign I'm willing to switch to something else no problem 

Not to quash just your plans, but I just don't want to see persistent spell or incantatrix anywhere near this game.

PS: Is there any source for Bloodlines apart from UA? Never used them before and want to know where to look.

There is no other source that I know of.

[Sohala]

Can I have Maneuvers above 3rd level? Going to build a fear based Cleric Crusader.

I was still debating that...I am leaning towards a 4th level cap for ToB. Small leg up for melee.

Hmm...question for you all. What do you think about capping Arcane/Divine/Psionics/Infusions at level 3 spell/effect, while everything else (I would still want to double check systems as your build them mind you) at level 4 spell/effect.

[bearsarebrown]

I agree that there should be some cap on ToB levels if only because the damage increases would be one hit kills on people with 6HD by the time you hit 7th level maneuvers. The best 6th level maneuvers have to offer is +10d6, +5d6 and +35 damage. The best of the 5th level offers +6d6.

As you scale up in maneuvers not a lot of options open up, only damage increases. The majority of maneuvers above 3rd level are just the same maneuvers with bigger numbers. It's not like spellcasting where you hit 4th level and all the sudden you can Planar Bind and Polymorph.

[LordBlades]

I am leaning towards CL not increasing due to advanced spell casting. If a class feature/feat/equipment increases it then that is fine, but other than that, your CL will be capped at 6 from class levels, and then 9 with bloodlines.

What about bonus spells ? As in, if my total advancement totals wizard 12, will I get the number of 0 to 3rd level slots of a 12th level wizard?

Not to quash just your plans, but I just don't want to see persistent spell or incantatrix anywhere near this game.

No problem whatsoever That's why I like asking beforehand about powerful stuff. How about Alter self into dwarf ancestor (non persistent) and Wraithstrike?

ATM I'm still somewhat undecided between Kalashtar(at 150+years think it should be long-lived enough for the campaign) PsiWar (lower-class guy that just wants to lay low and gets drafted into the army) and Elf Barb/Warblade/Revenant blade (Valenar mercenary).

I agree with limiting maneuvers/binding to 4th level.
What about incarnum?
Also, what about magical items that require CLs abouve 6 to make? will they be available for purchase?

[Sohala]

Torn between 4th and 5th for ToB...I'll give you 5th. If a problem arrises it might get lowered, but we shall see.

To better word my earlier thoughts on the matter, caster level, initiator level, or anything similar are capped at level 9 (with bloodlines). A PrC may increase your value up to this point through advancement, but no higher. If a class feature/feat/equipment increases these values then that is permitted.

How about Alter self into dwarf ancestor (non persistent) and Wraithstrike?

They would require more castings to keep up, which I find acceptable.

What about bonus spells ? As in, if my total advancement totals wizard 12, will I get the number of 0 to 3rd level slots of a 12th level wizard?

Yes, you would get the 0-3 level spells of a 12th level wizard, but only have a CL of 9.

What about incarnum?

Next on the list.

Also, what about magical items that require CLs abouve 6 9 to make? will they be available for purchase?

Purchase but not craft.

[LordBlades]

But first, what is the

Don't understand this one I'm afraid What is the what?
 
Also, IIRc from the discussions before Town of Terror, you were willing to allow PsiWar PP to key off Str with ilumnian power sigils. Does this apply to this game too?

[Sohala]

IDK where those words came from.

But yes, assuming they live long enough.

Fun pic, that is somewhat themed for this.
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[LordBlades]

But yes, assuming they live long enough.

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An ilumnian could make it I think, but it would be pretty close.
Assuming he was 20 at the start of the war, he'd be 122 by the time it ends. The max ilumnian life span is 100+4d20, so 142 on average. I'd be willing to go for an ilumnian PsiWar if it's cool with you.

Pic is awesome btw:))

[McPoyo]

What would be required in order to qualfy? For instance, some races live 90+2d20, does that work, or does it need to have a minimum maximum of 100+?

[Sohala]

I am going to rule 100+ venerable category will be required. In addition, your average max age must equal at least adulthood+average random starting age+102.

In the respect of an illumian psiwar, they would end at ~132 years old out of a 142 year life span.

The exception to this rule is halflings, they will not be allowed in with this rule.

[bearsarebrown]

So Human is probably out eh? Damn, anything else get a bonus feat? How long do Lesser Assimar live? How open are you to major refluffing? Like calling Titan Bloodline a Archon Bloodline or Mineral Warrior something given by the gods.

Will Heroes of Battle be used for big combat? Rally checks, morale checks, commander ratings?

[McPoyo]

I'm calling illusion using gnome for Aundair now.

[Bozwevial]

Hmm. Sohala, are you okay with the Substitute Powers option for Ardents? I'm growing fonder of an Ardent/Warblade, though I'm not sure with which powers (if any) or mantles I'd want to tinker. That or an Ardent/Swordsage, which would sacrifice a point of BaB (that extra attack is nice) but be less MAD.

[LordBlades]

I've got the basics of my char done( I think).

Something along the lines of (Mineral Warrior if i can fit it RP wise/find a cool refluff for it) Titan-blooded Ilumninan PsiWar 8/Warblade 4.

PS: Would it be cool with you to use a Maul (AeG, 2-handed martial, 1d10/x3) as a weapon? I'd like to keep the char hammer-themed from the start. 

[Bozwevial]

Hmm. Maybe I will reconsider Gadgeteer Genius--what worried you about Cunning Artifice? As far as I can tell it only allows you to save the initial charge--metamagic spell trigger doesn't apply (and I wouldn't have it unless I took 6 levels of artificer anyway).

[Sohala]

So Human is probably out eh?

Correct.

Damn, anything else get a bonus feat?

I know of only three, and all are banned.

How long do Lesser Assimar live?

Being half-humans, they would get human life spans, which are too short.

How open are you to major refluffing? Like calling Titan Bloodline a Archon Bloodline

I don't see a huge change in refluffing bloodlines types.

or Mineral Warrior something given by the gods.

Er...mineral warrior and the silver flame...that is a bit of a stretch. That is going to take one hell of a refluff...

Will Heroes of Battle be used for big combat? Rally checks, morale checks, commander ratings?

After I get incarium sorted out, that will be the book I am reading tonight.

Hmm. Sohala, are you okay with the Substitute Powers option for Ardents?

I will allow it, but final say stays with me, as usual.

Would it be cool with you to use a Maul (AeG, 2-handed martial, 1d10/x3) as a weapon? I'd like to keep the char hammer-themed from the start. 

Sure, just so you know, it was reprinted in CW, incase you wanted to use it in a 3.5 only game.

Maybe I will reconsider Gadgeteer Genius--what worried you about Cunning Artifice?

It is Power Surge, but free and per encounter. Carry around several single charged wands and you could replace a wizard, and have unlimited spells per day.

[Bozwevial]

It is Power Surge, but free and per encounter. Carry around several single charged wands and you could replace a wizard, and have unlimited spells per day.

Limited by my inspiration points, though I can see why it'd be worrisome. Alright, fair enough. I'll need to see whether I can find something else promising or whether I'll be stepping on someone else's toes by playing an Ardent/Swordsage.