Best martial anti-caster build?

[Endarire]

By 'martial,' I mean 'non-primary caster,' taking no mroe than 3 levels in any spell-granting class, such as Wizard, Cleric, or Suel Arcanamach.

I heard Bloodstorm Blade is a spiffy way to increase reach and harm casters.  My build is akin to this:

Warblade5/Bloodstorm Blade4/Occult Slayer5/Not Sure
1: Improved Bull Rush, Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Weapon Focus
3: Point Blank Shot
6: Shock Trooper
8: Mage Slayer
9: Pierce Magical Concealment
12: -=FEAT=-
15: -=FEAT=-
18: -=FEAT=-

[X-Codes]

I think that despite all splats released since, the Runescarred Berserker plays a major role in the best, serious attempts.

[Shadowhunter]

Best martial anti-caster build?

Hood.
 

I thought the common consensus was that 10 levels of Eternal Blade was required for Islands in Time, just to be able to hold a candle to Celerity Contingency.

At least that's what I remember from the last version of this thread.


You do realize this thread will end up like:

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=10425.0

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=10497.0

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=10638.0


Anytime you post another one of your topics that's essentially a question inviting discussion, it always ends up the same thing.
Even this time, since this time I'm making people aware of what's going to happen, but it's not going to stop it anyway. 
Not that that is your fault, because it isn't. Just saying.

[Nytemare3701]

Now we just need to make a RSB/EB with one base level in warblade and a lot of retraining. 

*waits for sunic*

[Cephid Arcanis]

You'd have to build in a killing technique, but here is the extreme defence:
The Immortal Mage Slayer
Old Nixie: +3 LA +8cha, +6 dex, +2 int, small, SR:16+levels, DR: 5/cold iron, Dodge, weapon finesse
Cha: 42 [+16] (18 base +8 race +2 age +6 item +4 levels +4 tome)
Dex 26 [+8] (16 base -3 age +6 race +6 item +1 tome)

TOUCH AC: 87   
(10 +16 monk +16 Duellist +1 size +5 deflection +16 profane +8 dex +5 Natural +9 armour +1dodge)
+2 AC whenever Foe misses
+4 vs AoO
+5 vs ranged attack 1/day
+4 vs 1 attack (Zephyr Dance)

+53 to all base SAVES. 

1)   Sword Sage (mobility) {Improved unarmed strike} {Dodge} {weapon focus} { weapon finesse}
2)   Sword Sage Light armour
3)   Paladin (heighten spell)
4)   Paladin Cha-> saves, Deadly Touch
5)   Hexblade
6)   Hexblade Cha-> saves vs. spells (Versatile Spellcaster)
7)   Hexblade Mettle
8)   Hexblade Dark companion
9)   Arcane Duellist Chosen weapon: +1 (Aesthetic Mage) Cha-> AC
10)   Arcane Duellist Cha-> AC
11)   Cleric Domains: Pride, Fate: uncanny dodge. Turn Undead
12)   Cleric (Force of Personality)
13)   Cleric
14)   Mystic Wanderer Cha-> AC (Profane)
15)   Wielder (FEAT)
16)   Wielder Cha-> Touch AC (max=AC)
17)   Witchhunter Cha-> saves

SAVES
F2231      +4      +16 +16 +16 +5
R22      +8      +16 +16 +16 +5
W42312   +15+2      +16 +16 +16 +5

Manuvers:
Zephyr Dance (+4AC vs one attack), Counter charge, Shadow Jaunt to avoid force cage + AMF combo.

Stance: Pearl of Black doubt (+2AC whenever Foe misses)

[Shadowhunter]

Where's the monk level?
Unarmed Swordsage doesn't work with Aesthetic Mage.

Needs a level of Battle Dancer from Dragon Compedium, for another round of CHA to AC if you can use the Paladin of Freedom.
Now, it wouldn't stack with Monk if their abilities were the same. But it's not.
Monk relies upon WIS and BD upon CHA. So, the abilities stack.
Then Aesthetic Mage kicks in and makes it keyed to CHA instead.

Another option is to use Paladin of Slaughter and Blackguard instead of the Cleric and Mystic Wanderer.


Nitpick:
It's "Wilder" not "Wielder".

[Nytemare3701]

If you want to get silly, figure out a way to be a dry lich (for CHA to HP EVERY HIT DIE)

[Cephid Arcanis]

Where's the monk level?
Unarmed Swordsage doesn't work with Aesthetic Mage.

Oh, I thought they did. If not, just swap to monk. Saves a level and a feat too.

Pretty epic stats thou hey.

If you want to get silly, figure out a way to be a dry lich (for CHA to HP EVERY HIT DIE)

I tried that, but no room, and I thought with stats like that, who needs hit points? I think there are lower ECL creatures with Unholey toughness.

Also, add a stunning surge long spear for DC: 34 stunning hit 17/day.

[Pimpforged]

Another option is to use Paladin of Slaughter and Blackguard instead of the Cleric and Mystic Wanderer.

He has to use paladin of slaughter or tyranny as hexblade requires nongood alignment.

[Rejakor]

The best anti-caster martial builds are gishes.

Otherwise your best bet is looking at Runescarred Berserker, Eternal Blade, overpowered race/template combos and monster classes that give stupid bullshit, or a really subtle social rogue murderer.  Who gets in really close to the spellcaster somehow, and finds a way past their defenses by first learning what those defenses are.  Whether it's the contact poison in the spellbook before rebuffing, a 'fake' assassination attempt causing a contingent teleport into what is essentially a rigged death-room, or simply psychologically breaking the Int based caster down emotionally until they're an easy-to-kill emotionally broken wreck.

But yeah... your options are essentially limited.  If you want to kill a level 5+ caster who would prefer not to die.  You've got antimagic field, or antimagic field.  Without antimagic field + surprise, your options are very limited.

[Solo]

I'd say an Imperious Command Barbarian.

[lans]

I'd say an Imperious Command Barbarian.

Mindblank protects against this, but it does cover warages 

[archangel.arcanis]

I would think if you can get it on there some sort of spellthief/master spellthief build would be pretty sick. Nothing pisses off a caster more than no longer having spells to cast and that guy wearing all of his buffs.

Best I ever did with ST was polymorph into a hydra for 12 attacks and stole spells with them all.

[Endarire]

Warblade5/WhirlPounce Barbarian1/Bloodstorm Blade4/Eternal Blade10 seems viable.  How well would this work?

[Solo]

I'd say an Imperious Command Barbarian.

Mindblank protects against this, but it does cover warages  

This would work fairly well before level 8 spells come into play.

[Lycanthromancer]

This.

[Azrael]

Manuvers:
Zephyr Dance (+4AC vs one attack), Counter charge, Shadow Jaunt to avoid force cage + AMF combo.

I mean that's the problem. This build only works if the mage doesn't go first (which he will), and doesn't do the forcecage AMF combo inside a time stop (which you cannot prevent, unless you get iron heart surge (which this build needs)). I think that's why the other guy was talking about island in time. The only way to conceivably beat a mage is to go before he does and somehow get around his contingencies.

[ninjarabbit]

ranger6/fighter4/horizonwalker6/monk2/shadowdancer2

ACFs:
Arcane hunter ranger
cobra strike monk
trade one evasion for spell reflection

Basically long range volleys at the spellcaster and hide in plain sight so it's tougher for the caster to retaliate.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Needs knowledge affiliation (CC)

[oslecamo]

This.

I believe that build is ilegal. The srd says:

A psion also can research a power independently, duplicating an existing power or creating an entirely new one. If characters are allowed to develop new powers, use these guidelines to handle the situation.

Any kind of manifester can create a new power.

So by RAW only a psion could research extra spells from the already existing list. Your psychic warrior could research a new power, but not metamorphosis, wich is an already existing power.

And if you're allowing for creation of new powers/spells, then the psychic warrior's royally screwed when then the caster pulls out something even cheesier than polymorph/metamorphosis.