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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #180 on: January 24, 2011, 02:51:44 AM »
Spells are possible with the surrogate spellcasting feat (Savage Species 39).  It doesn't apply to spell-like abilities because, at the time it was written, all spell-like abilities could be used in non-humanoid forms anyway. 

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #181 on: January 24, 2011, 10:32:53 AM »
Q48I'm considering making a tibbit warlock that uses supernatural transformation to fire eldritch blasts from its eyes while in cat form and flies around. Is there any way to use invocations (or spells) while in cat form? (Tibbit has the ability to polymorph into a house cat at will)
well, supernatural transformation won't work with eldritch blast -- it's covered in the FAQ.  it can only be used with racial SLAs, not ones from class features.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #182 on: January 24, 2011, 11:59:06 AM »
q49 I manifest a Dimension Hop Linked to Synchronicity. This round, I teleport 10ft. Next round, I have a free Standard Action which I must specify what the action is at the time of manifesting.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #183 on: January 24, 2011, 02:39:29 PM »
q49 I manifest a Dimension Hop Linked to Synchronicity. This round, I teleport 10ft. Next round, I have a free Standard Action which I must specify what the action is at the time of manifesting.

Correct?
yes though not what will trigger it.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #184 on: January 24, 2011, 03:16:45 PM »
Q50

What is the CR of a Kobold with 10 levels in an NPC class. (Such as a lvl 10 Kobold Expert)
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #185 on: January 24, 2011, 03:37:07 PM »
Q50

What is the CR of a Kobold with 10 levels in an NPC class. (Such as a lvl 10 Kobold Expert)

By raw it 3 level below your character level....
So in your example it would be cr 7.....
But for some reason the example of an adept in Races of a Dragon is only 2 levels below their character level(adept 4 cr 2),
so maybe adept it is exempt from that rule or it could be  a typo....

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #186 on: January 24, 2011, 03:45:23 PM »
So a human expert 10, would be CR 5, and a kobold would be CR 7 ?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #187 on: January 24, 2011, 03:46:54 PM »
So a human expert 10, would be CR 5, and a kobold would be CR 7 ?
No a human expert 10 would be a cr 9,but you got it right for the kobold....

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #188 on: January 24, 2011, 03:51:16 PM »
So a human expert 10, would be CR 5, and a kobold would be CR 7 ?
No a human expert 10 would be a cr 9,but you got it right for the kobold....

From the SRD
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #189 on: January 24, 2011, 03:54:29 PM »
RE Q/A46: Thank you for the excellent help. Greatly appreciated

Q51: When I cast a spell that affects all allies within 60 feet, is it at time of casting, they get the buff, and keep it until it wears off, or is it like a Dragon shaman aura, turning on and off as they move in and out of 60 feet?

For example Aid, Mass: SPC pg 8: Range Close, Targets 1 or more creatures that are no more than 30 feet apart. It affects multiple subjects at a distance.
Compared with Recitation, SpC pg 170: Ranged 60, Area: All allies within 60 foot radius burst centred on me.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #190 on: January 24, 2011, 04:00:00 PM »
So a human expert 10, would be CR 5, and a kobold would be CR 7 ?
No a human expert 10 would be a cr 9,but you got it right for the kobold....

From the SRD

This passage applies to creatures that do not advanche by character class normally.....
A kobold and  a human  do not have racial hit  dice thus the above passage  does not  apply to them......
The rule is in DMG page 38.....
Edit:For typo and additions....
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #191 on: January 24, 2011, 04:11:46 PM »
So a human expert 10, would be CR 5, and a kobold would be CR 7 ?
No a human expert 10 would be a cr 9,but you got it right for the kobold....

From the SRD

This passage applies to creatures that do not advanche by character class normally.....
A kobold and  a human  do not have racial hit  dice thus the above passage  does not  apply to them......
The rule is in DMG page 38.....
Edit:For typo and additions....
Does this include all races that have no racial HD? Like tieflings and aasimars?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #192 on: January 24, 2011, 04:16:23 PM »
So a human expert 10, would be CR 5, and a kobold would be CR 7 ?
No a human expert 10 would be a cr 9,but you got it right for the kobold....

From the SRD

This passage applies to creatures that do not advanche by character class normally.....
A kobold and  a human  do not have racial hit  dice thus the above passage  does not  apply to them......
The rule is in DMG page 38.....
Edit:For typo and additions....

Im not being daft on purpose.

So if you have a gnoll "they have 2 racial HD", they would progress as expert by 2 levels per CR.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #193 on: January 24, 2011, 04:21:17 PM »
As far as I know the decider is not the fact that the character has racial hd or not but if it advanched normally by class or by hit dice....
If they advanche normally by class(it says that in the advanchement line in the creature's description) then the DMG applies and it's challenge rating for npc classes is one less than it would be if it had regular classes....
If it advanches normally by hit dice then the monster manual applies and it gains a +1 for associated class levels and a +1 per 2 levels for non-associated class levels.....

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #194 on: January 24, 2011, 04:43:53 PM »
Q 52 Are there any official rules for using Power Attack with more than two hands?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #195 on: January 24, 2011, 04:44:41 PM »
Q 52 Are there any official rules for using Power Attack with more than two hands?
Savage Species, perhaps?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #196 on: January 24, 2011, 04:51:01 PM »
Q53: ToB has a feat: Faith Unswerving, p.34, which allows One Last Strike.

[spoiler]One Last Strike: To use this option, you must be the subject
of an attack, spell, or ability that reduces you to 0 or fewer
hit points. As an immediate action, you can move up to 5
feet and make a single melee attack with a +5 bonus on the
attack roll. You gain a bonus on your damage roll equal to
your character level. This attack is considered a strenuous
action. Regardless of the result of your attack, you still take
the damage from the attack that triggered this ability. You
complete this immediate action before dropping to 0 or fewer
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What if I combine that one with for example a Crusader's Strike that allows me to heal 1d6 + 1/initiator level (max +5) hp or Martial Spirit stance, which allows me to heal 2 hp after a successful attack.

So I take damage that would reduce my hit points to -1 hp.
- I trigger an ability: one last strike (an immediate action, a strenuous one)
- I move up to 5 ft
- make one single melee attack (assume success)
- heal +2 hp
- take the damage from the original attack, leaving my hit points to 1 hp.
- take 1 damage for doing a strenous action?

Did I break the chain of causality? I.e. I can make one last strike before I drop, but the result of the strike keeps me up, so how could I have done the strike in the first place.. ;)

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #197 on: January 24, 2011, 05:08:19 PM »
Q53: ToB has a feat: Faith Unswerving, p.34, which allows One Last Strike.

[spoiler]One Last Strike: To use this option, you must be the subject
of an attack, spell, or ability that reduces you to 0 or fewer
hit points. As an immediate action, you can move up to 5
feet and make a single melee attack with a +5 bonus on the
attack roll. You gain a bonus on your damage roll equal to
your character level. This attack is considered a strenuous
action. Regardless of the result of your attack, you still take
the damage from the attack that triggered this ability. You
complete this immediate action before dropping to 0 or fewer
hit points.
[/spoiler]

What if I combine that one with for example a Crusader's Strike that allows me to heal 1d6 + 1/initiator level (max +5) hp or Martial Spirit stance, which allows me to heal 2 hp after a successful attack.

So I take damage that would reduce my hit points to -1 hp.
- I trigger an ability: one last strike (an immediate action, a strenuous one)
- I move up to 5 ft
- make one single melee attack (assume success)
- heal +2 hp
- take the damage from the original attack, leaving my hit points to 1 hp.
- take 1 damage for doing a strenous action?

Did I break the chain of causality? I.e. I can make one last strike before I drop, but the result of the strike keeps me up, so how could I have done the strike in the first place.. ;)
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Emphasis mine. The immediate action is completed before dropping to 0 or fewer, so it stands to reason that you would not take the damage for taking a strenous action. Which makes it very odd that they would mention it as being a strenous action (which would never matter if you take the immediate action while above zero hit points). :psyduck Seems like a classic case of bad wording to me. Either that, or it's supposed to clarify what happens if you're trying to abuse Diehard or whatever with this feat, but only succeeds in causing more confusion.

Come to think of it... Can you say Persistent Delay Death? :smirk
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #198 on: January 24, 2011, 05:57:01 PM »
Thanks for the answer! Diehard would make the strenuous part make sense.

Vampiric weapon ftw! Yay I'm up again (at least for this turn). Though one immediate action limit per turn still applies.

Q54: Could I trigger this One Last Strike ability if I was already in the negatives?
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« Reply #199 on: January 24, 2011, 06:13:18 PM »
Thanks for the answer! Diehard would make the strenuous part make sense.

Vampiric weapon ftw! Yay I'm up again (at least for this turn). Though one immediate action limit per turn still applies.

Q54: Could I trigger this One Last Strike ability if I was already in the negatives?
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Looks like it to me. It doesn't say "from positive hit points to 0 or fewer hit points" or anything like that. It might or might not get you a book to the face, but that's DM purview. :D (And honestly, it doesn't seem all that broken - it's two feats at minimum for one extra attack a turn that eats your Swift action for the next.)
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