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Re: Taking over a layer of the Abyss.....
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2011, 07:41:14 PM »
As far as I know, the ratio by which a layer is inhabited depends on two factors:

- how unpleasant it is (many are too bad even for the fiends - crushing gravity, temporal and magical anomalies, you name it)

- how hard it is to access (a large part of the challenge in Planescape was getting to your destination. Thus, getting to the first layer can be done by rather simple spells but beyond that, you need to either use much stronger magic or the right portal. Obviously, entering portals at random is risky stuff, especially since many of them are one-way.

Also, it is very hard to build a cosy resting place in the Abyss. As a place of evil and chaos, where the very soil is literally made of digested souls of psychos, it isn't very conductive to rest, healing magic and the like.

And if you actually manage to change a whole layer to your liking... it will no longer be part of the Abyss. And surprisingly, that's bad news too.

There was one high level adventure for Planescape where a "lawful good" but completely insane deity would condemn its followers for minor offences, using one layer of the abyss as its personal hell. It caused a planar disaster when the layer, placed in the Abyss but filled with mostly good guys, started to shift to its "proper" place on the great circle, straining the dimensional barriers of all the planes along the way, even as far as Sigil itself.

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Re: Taking over a layer of the Abyss.....
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2011, 08:06:44 PM »
There's some other things to consider.

Some or more than just some, of the layers of the Abyss,
are Draeden that are sleeping / waiting out the gods.
They've turned into Layers Of The Abyss, over the eons.

Elsewhere (source hazy) some of the Demon Princes are described
as spontaneously emerging from an Abyssal Layer itself.

From this, you could probably Divination rather easily,
that gaining a layer might not really work.

Chaotic Evil surprises and all ...  :chairhit

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Re: Taking over a layer of the Abyss.....
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2011, 08:40:43 PM »
And if you actually manage to change a whole layer to your liking... it will no longer be part of the Abyss. And surprisingly, that's bad news too.

Unless you are Chaotic Evil yourself?


also see: Shendilavri.

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Re: Taking over a layer of the Abyss.....
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2011, 09:15:32 PM »
Well this is for an evil Wizard that he thinks too much of himself......
At his level(12 or so) he can easily create a demiplane of his own(well he could,but lets pretend that he can't acquire genesis)
What I am asking is how feasible is for a character of his level to take over a layer of the abyss.....