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Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« on: January 11, 2011, 01:13:53 AM »
So, anyone looked at the stuff Dreamscarred Press put together for Pathfinder's psionics system? What I've heard sounds interesting.
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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 04:34:40 AM »
edit:
Here's a link to the beta compilation for your pleasure.

http://dreamscarredpress.com/dragonfly/ForumsPro/viewtopic/t=877.html 
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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 05:04:59 AM »
Hadn't gotten my hands on the book yet, but I hear good things so far.
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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2011, 05:23:06 AM »
I'm cautiously optimistic. Then again, I'm not sure if they needed to restrict the ability to change energy types on the fly to the Kineticist.

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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 05:36:50 AM »
^^
Probably just needed some candy for the Kineticist, and figured they could steal it from everyone else.
Theres gotta be SOME flaw in it. :P
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 05:43:11 AM »
That's not giving the Kineticist candy, though. That's taking candy from all the other kids. :P

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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 05:55:21 AM »
Still, won't know until I see the Soulknife and the powers for myself.
More the latter. The odds of not fucking up the soulknife are astronomical.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 11:27:42 AM »
Still, won't know until I see the Soulknife and the powers for myself.
More the latter. The odds of not fucking up the soulknife are astronomical.
Wasn't their first version of the PF soulknife supposed to be overpowered? :p
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 12:02:04 PM »
I suppose we can make an Incarnum soulknife.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
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Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 03:58:28 PM »
I suppose we can make an Incarnum soulknife.
You know just out the box even not knowing much about incarnum... that sounds like a good idea.
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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 04:58:09 PM »
Incarnum is basically gear made of soul anyway.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2011, 06:27:30 PM »
Looked at it.
Well, the Soulknife is usable now, in that you can basically play it like a Fighter, with an opening high damage move(precharged Psychic Strike opening move) and some mind blade tricks in place of bonus feats. The weapon enhancement is more adjustable now, so you can still benefit from Greater Magic Weapon if one is available, shunting the rest to weapon SFX. And full BAB.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
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Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 10:07:21 PM »
Looked at it.
Well, the Soulknife is usable now, in that you can basically play it like a Fighter, with an opening high damage move(precharged Psychic Strike opening move) and some mind blade tricks in place of bonus feats. The weapon enhancement is more adjustable now, so you can still benefit from Greater Magic Weapon if one is available, shunting the rest to weapon SFX. And full BAB.

A solid start, though the fact that they didn't make it a Psionic Duskblade with built-in gear is a little disappointing (but that's Paizo for you).
I suppose we can make an Incarnum soulknife.
You know just out the box even not knowing much about incarnum... that sounds like a good idea.

That would be a decent idea too (roll it in with a revamped Soulborn to add extra fixage).

Edit: And throw in some Soul Calibur jokes/fluff while we are at it.


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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2011, 03:34:09 AM »
^^
It's actually third party.
I heard the PF project head is allergic to ToB and Psionics.

Though an Incarnum Soulknife might run out of body slots.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

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Re: Pathfinder psionics - thoughts?
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2011, 03:40:58 PM »
I heard the PF project head is allergic to ToB and Psionics.
That does not surprise me.  I've heard he's pretty allergic to constructive or logical criticism as well, so I guess it makes sense.
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