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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2011, 06:43:40 PM »
I'm gone for 1 day......1 DAY!! and you guys all go have fun without me. it hurts  :shakefist
anyway 2 binders = fun... I'll throw up my sheet the first day I don't work. 
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2011, 07:02:03 PM »
Finally home. I'll read your questions and give answers tonight.
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2011, 07:44:55 PM »
wondering if Ability Enhancer from Dragon Compendium is okay as far as feats go. and i should have a character sheet up later today

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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2011, 08:04:56 PM »
Thought about playing two different characters, and PS the setting is balls-out awesome.
I'll take this a a complement. Glad to see I have the Flay seal of approval.

First off, doers the Spellfire wielder feat act as a 3.5 rod of negation, i.e. no action needed to absorb oncoming spells (which I'd like to say I always read to mean you couldn't be buffed), or is it a move/standard/whatever it was in 3.0?
Second, if that's out, how would a changeling wild-shaping ranger ex-convict, heading towards warshaper and master of many forms (or something like that) sound to you? If anyone's confused, think the character Envy from Fullmetal Alchemist, but slightly more DnD suited. It'd be my schtick to transform into creatures I learn about and use their bodies for combat.
I would like to see the Spellfire wielder but need to come up with a way to make it work without being broken, both Pun-Pun style and Truenamer style.

Nope. Will defense focused class against tier ones? I'm not that masochistic :)
Arcanis, can I take the flaw Lover of Nature?  It nails and aspect of my character perfectly.  http://www.realmshelps.net/cgi-bin/feats.pl?Love_of_Nature
That looks good to me. It just means that I need to throw plants and animals early while there is still a chance at failure.  :devil

So, Primeval requires the Endurance feat as a prereq. I'm a warforged, I would never have to make any of the checks that would apply to, if I'm not mistaken. There a possibility that could be worked to something different?

edit: Also, I am coming up short for gear ideas, since I don't use weapons and anything I wear is subsumed into my form when I shapeshift. Fun. Maybe I should look into VoP instead.
Lets find something to use in place of endurance. Also no VoP, I'm trying to avoid exalted/vile and don't see a good way of making that one work. I'll work with you on gear that has properties that function while transformed though.

wondering if Ability Enhancer from Dragon Compendium is okay as far as feats go. and i should have a character sheet up later today
I Don't have DC so I'll need to see the feat before I can ok it.
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2011, 08:08:47 PM »
wondering if Ability Enhancer from Dragon Compendium is okay as far as feats go. and i should have a character sheet up later today

He can have it as long as he is always using it to buff everyone else but himself  :P

It increases the stat buffs from various spells by 2.  Bull's gives +6 str, Animalistic power gives +4 to all three, other spell... listed stat bonus +2
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2011, 08:13:22 PM »
wondering if Ability Enhancer from Dragon Compendium is okay as far as feats go. and i should have a character sheet up later today

He can have it as long as he is always using it to buff everyone else but himself  :P

It increases the stat buffs from various spells by 2.  Bull's gives +6 str, Animalistic power gives +4 to all three, other spell... listed stat bonus +2
Sure I'll let that go. But only on spells that add +x rather than those that change to a specific number, in case they didn't specify that in the feat.
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2011, 08:16:50 PM »
Are there spells that do a variable amount now?  Are they not all static like Bull's Strength?

edited for dumbass grammar... and spelling
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2011, 08:23:13 PM »
Is there spells that to a variable amount now?  Are they not all static like Bull's Strength?
More in reference to Polymorph or Fiendform type spells where your stats become a set number not just a bonus to stats.
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2011, 08:25:51 PM »
Okay, yep.. the way the feat is worded it doesn't boost poly type stuff.

Here is the text of the feat.
http://www.realmshelps.net/cgi-bin/feats.pl?Ability_Enhancer
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2011, 09:30:32 PM »
thaks for doing the leg work hallak.  i will be putting my sheet up in a matter of moments

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need okay on a few of items
Arcanist Gloves MIC pg 72
Healing Belt MIC pg 110
Crystal Arcane Steel MIC pg64

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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2011, 10:00:52 PM »
Still need an go-ahead on my magic items from the MiC.
Healing Belt.
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2011, 10:46:10 PM »
Still need an go-ahead on my magic items from the MiC.
Healing Belt.
Everlasting Rations.
Iron Ward Diamond, least.
Crystal of Life Drinking, least.
All are good to go.
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #72 on: January 05, 2011, 02:13:47 AM »
Spellfire Wielder? I like this.

I'm tossing around three ideas, one of which is a wilder gish using the above. Another is a spellthief/X/Anima Mage, using the feat entry, just because this party seems to be binder friendly. Third is an eternal blade build... but I'll find a way of making it feel more hunter-like, probably with a ranger taking favored enemy: caster as a start. And probably some binding anyway.  :D
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2011, 10:10:05 AM »
Is there anyone without at least one arcane hunter ranger level?
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2011, 10:48:06 AM »
Is there anyone without at least one arcane hunter ranger level?

Yes, Tosc is pure Spirit Shaman and may even remain so.

Also, I'm guessing Innabinder's character will not have it either.
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #75 on: January 05, 2011, 11:02:53 AM »
I'll be without as well, as it seems that I wont be able to fit it in with all the other awesome I wanna shove in there. It's really hard to cram it all, though....

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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #76 on: January 05, 2011, 11:13:25 AM »
Is there anyone without at least one arcane hunter ranger level?

Yes, Tosc is pure Spirit Shaman and may even remain so.

Also, I'm guessing Innabinder's character will not have it either.
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #77 on: January 05, 2011, 11:50:04 AM »
Spellfire Wielder? I like this.
That Version of Spellfire will work. The original feat from FR is just messy in its implementation.
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #78 on: January 05, 2011, 02:03:21 PM »
Arcanis, If allowed I'm going to spend some of my starting wealth on scrolls I scribe.  Character RP wise all these scrolls will reflect one of his methods for coming to understand his new magics.  Coming from and arcane background he still has a very methodical bent even though he does not remember his old knowledge.  

Along the same lines, can I use the cost reductions listed in DMG?  Requires a Skill -10%, Requires Align -30, requires class -30%.  I figure you may not want me combining all of those so how about Skill/Class (Nature/Spirit Shaman) for -40%?

I figure scrolls are going to have to go a long way in helping Tosc's versatility.
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Re: Replacement game for Athanos Players
« Reply #79 on: January 05, 2011, 02:07:25 PM »
Yeah 40% reduction will work. Be wary of the XP costs too, since you are already 1 level down and 2 would make you fragile.
Clerics and Druids are like the 4 and 2 in 42. Together they are the answer to the ultimate question in D&D.
Retire the character before the DM smacks you with the Table as the book will feel totally inadequate now.-Hazren