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Is it really necessary to keep the Psicrystal Affinity feat?
« on: December 27, 2010, 09:53:23 PM »
It's standard operating procedure for a Psion to take Psicrystal Affinity at first level. According to the XPH and SRD, "This feat allows you to gain a psicrystal."

By RAW, and by my reading, it would seem that you don't have to keep the feat to keep the psicrystal. You only need it to first create/shape/bring into being a psicrystal.

So, in an optimized build, why keep the feat if you don't have to? I've never seen this addressed, so I'm bringing it up now. I'm fairly certain the reason the feat is kept is because there are no other feats (that I can think of) where you can divest yourself of the feat and keep the benefit.

That said, the one benefit of keeping the feat, again by RAW, would be that if you lose your psicrystal you can gain another immediately. The text never says that you can't gain another psicrystal, nor does it impose any time constraints on the regaining of a psicrystal. Heh...of course, unless I'm mistaken, the text doesn't say you can't have multiple psicrystals, either.

Anyway, can someone tell me if there's a reason given in the rules that makes it necessary to keep this feat?


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Re: Is it really necessary to keep the Psicrystal Affinity feat?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2010, 10:23:50 PM »
Is this what these boards have come to?  Applying literal (mis)interpretations of words to feats in order to fundamentally change the way that well-known feats work?

Seriously, Psicrystals are badass enough without you trying to mess with things such that they're suddenly free.

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Re: Is it really necessary to keep the Psicrystal Affinity feat?
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2010, 10:28:26 PM »
While we're at it, soulmelds don't go away as I understand them.

So retrain your feat to get another one.

My favorite prc, the chameleon, gets a bonus feat that is swapable.  Someone else suggested the soulmeld thing...(not my idea)

This is one of those spirit of the game issues imho.

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Re: Is it really necessary to keep the Psicrystal Affinity feat?
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2010, 10:41:44 PM »
This is one of those spirit of the game issues imho.

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Re: Is it really necessary to keep the Psicrystal Affinity feat?
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2010, 10:46:07 PM »
It's standard operating procedure for a Psion to take Psicrystal Affinity at first level. According to the XPH and SRD, "This feat allows you to gain a psicrystal."

By RAW, and by my reading, it would seem that you don't have to keep the feat to keep the psicrystal. You only need it to first create/shape/bring into being a psicrystal.

So, in an optimized build, why keep the feat if you don't have to? I've never seen this addressed, so I'm bringing it up now. I'm fairly certain the reason the feat is kept is because there are no other feats (that I can think of) where you can divest yourself of the feat and keep the benefit.

That said, the one benefit of keeping the feat, again by RAW, would be that if you lose your psicrystal you can gain another immediately. The text never says that you can't gain another psicrystal, nor does it impose any time constraints on the regaining of a psicrystal. Heh...of course, unless I'm mistaken, the text doesn't say you can't have multiple psicrystals, either.

Anyway, can someone tell me if there's a reason given in the rules that makes it necessary to keep this feat?


I think there is a rule going around that just because it doesn't explicitly says it doesn't, doesn't mean it does. Applying that to your argument torpedoes it.

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Re: Is it really necessary to keep the Psicrystal Affinity feat?
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2010, 10:48:32 PM »
Thanks for the responses. I was genuinely curious.

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Re: Is it really necessary to keep the Psicrystal Affinity feat?
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2010, 02:54:29 AM »
Ask your GM.
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Re: Is it really necessary to keep the Psicrystal Affinity feat?
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 09:24:47 PM »
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