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Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« on: July 10, 2008, 01:39:28 PM »
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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 01:50:53 PM »
Why does that link redirect me to this thread?  ???
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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 01:58:45 PM »
Daaammnn. Immediate as if healing surge+Cha mod healing + Cha mod to attack and damage rolls? You even get better second winds. Better than almost any 12th level utility I can think of.

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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 02:35:58 PM »
Why does that link redirect me to this thread?  ???

They've finally fixed their file redirects - you actually need to be logged into D&D insider now to see them. Otherwise it's just a redirect
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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 05:07:02 PM »
Ah ok, that explains it :P
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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2008, 09:36:31 PM »
I HATE how DDI doesn't seem to work properly with anything besides Explorer. That said...

That sounds like it hurts. A lot.

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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2008, 09:46:09 PM »
Except for the utility which is quite nice, the rest of the Feat are totally lackluster. Energy Admixture ? Terrible...

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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 03:50:23 AM »
Apparently they still haven't figured out that the Dragonborn's breath weapon is a piece of shit.

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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 04:47:52 AM »
Apparently they still haven't figured out that the Dragonborn's breath weapon is a piece of shit.
It's not a piece of shit... it's just not worth spending feats on something you can only use 1/enc unless you get a really nice benefit out of it, and they seem to want to provide us with a lot of useless ways to "upgrade" it.

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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 05:27:12 AM »
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It's not a piece of shit... it's just not worth spending feats on something you can only use 1/enc unless you get a really nice benefit out of it, and they seem to want to provide us with a lot of useless ways to "upgrade" it.

It's, ummm... good for clearing minions. In a cramped space. If you're a Fighter or other melee type.

And that's it.

Wait until the equivalent of Entangling Exhalation comes out, it might be worth something then.
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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 08:04:31 AM »
Actually, if I were starting a game at level 30, a Dragonborn Demigod with all of the breath feats spamming them might not be terrible.

...You know what, on further thought, never mind.  Yeah, it fucking sucks.
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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 08:56:52 AM »
It's clearly not intended toward actual damage, more like a anti minion power. For that it is pretty good. I kinda like Enlarged Breath (more area = more minion hit) but anything that tries to make it more damage is quite simply missing the point.

It's no Elven Accuracy but it's pretty good

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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 03:09:38 PM »
I kinda like Enlarged Breath (more area = more minion hit)

Enlarged Breath is blast 5, which means it covers a 5x5 area. Hurl Breath is burst 2, which means it also covers a 5x5 area. The only advantage that Enlarged Breath has over Hurl Breath is that Enlarged Breath doesn't provoke OAs.

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 05:29:58 PM »
Yeah, I suspect Hurl Breath is supposed to be burst 1, upgraded to burst 2 by Enlarged Breath.
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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2008, 07:25:48 PM »
I kinda like Enlarged Breath (more area = more minion hit)

Enlarged Breath is blast 5, which means it covers a 5x5 area. Hurl Breath is burst 2, which means it also covers a 5x5 area. The only advantage that Enlarged Breath has over Hurl Breath is that Enlarged Breath doesn't provoke OAs.
I believe he means before this article came out, getting Enlarged Breath was still pretty handy. Obviously now Hurl Breath is better, but it is also a higher tier feat as well.

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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2008, 10:42:28 PM »
What I don't understand about the feat Dragonborn Zeal [Dragonborn]is:

It says you replace it with a 12th level (or higher) utility power.
Yet the power card says

"Dragonborn Zeal Epic Dragonborn Racial Utility"
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you need to be paragon for Great Fortitude, and the feat is under the Paragon feat heading, so the power card is a misprint?

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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2008, 04:22:21 AM »
you need to be paragon for Great Fortitude, and the feat is under the Paragon feat heading, so the power card is a misprint?

Interesting... there's no indication on which is the primary source here.
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Re: Look! Dragonborns Are Even Pimper!
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2008, 07:05:58 AM »
you need to be paragon for Great Fortitude, and the feat is under the Paragon feat heading, so the power card is a misprint?
That's what I thought when I saw it. The article about items also had badly edited cards.
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