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Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer (For DMs)
« on: December 06, 2010, 06:03:08 AM »
The purpose of this thread is to serve as a catch-all for minor questions or mundane rules queries that don't really warrant a brand new thread.

Please follow the format of

Q#: [Question Here]

And respond to that question in a subsequent post with the format of

A#: [Answer Here]

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 06:04:14 AM »
Q1: Are there any "expert-like" divine core classes out there? Like a divine rogue of some sort? (3.5 D&D)

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 07:29:36 AM »
Is there any reason you felt a need to make a new one of these threads, when there's already one in the Min/Max forum already, and has been for ages?

To answer your question, though, check out the Cloistered Cleric variant in Unearthed Arcana (also found in the SRD). 6 skill points/level, a bonus domain (Knowledge) and all the usual Cleric goodies and spellcasting, all for the cost one a reduced hit die (1d6 instead of 1d8), wizard-like BaB, and the loss of medium and heavy armor proficiency.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2010, 07:54:30 AM »
Is there any reason you felt a need to make a new one of these threads, when there's already one in the Min/Max forum already, and has been for ages?
couldn't find it/thought it was joke thread with gazebo stuff in first couple of posts and title/different kinds of questions are likely to crop up in this forum/we can just let this die/delete it if it's a problem

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2010, 05:01:43 PM »
Yeah, after about the 10th Simple Question thread, they started getting silly names. There's usually a bunch of silly questions on the first page or two, but it gets back to business after the previous thread dies down and people move on to the new one.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 05:53:35 PM »
Q1: Are there any "expert-like" divine core classes out there? Like a divine rogue of some sort? (3.5 D&D)

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About the best you can do is an Archivist, I think, due to their having Int dependence. Of course, they still only get 2+Int skill points per level, but if you start out as a human rogue (or factotum) and take Able Learner, you should have enough skill points to fulfill the role.

There might be a homebrew class somewhere that fills this role, if you're interested in those. In fact, I'm pretty sure I saw one in the homebrew section not too long ago. Check Boz's Homebrew Compendium thread, which is now stickied in that forum.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2010, 05:57:19 PM »
Q1: Are there any "expert-like" divine core classes out there? Like a divine rogue of some sort? (3.5 D&D)

Thanks,
Necro  
About the best you can do is an Archivist, I think, due to their having Int dependence. Of course, they still only get 2+Int skill points per level, but if you start out as a human rogue (or factotum) and take Able Learner, you should have enough skill points to fulfill the role.

There might be a homebrew class somewhere that fills this role, if you're interested in those. In fact, I'm pretty sure I saw one in the homebrew section not too long ago. Check Boz's Homebrew Compendium thread, which is now stickied in that forum.
Off the top of my head, I remember Rich Burlew's Divine Trickster.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2010, 06:09:18 PM »
I think he wanted base classes and not PrCs, although he used the terminology "core classes" instead.  If he's truly looking for Core, then he's pretty SoL, other than maybe a Cleric with the Trickery and Travel domains.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2010, 05:00:49 PM »
I think he wanted base classes and not PrCs, although he used the terminology "core classes" instead.  If he's truly looking for Core, then he's pretty SoL, other than maybe a Cleric with the Trickery and Travel domains.
Yeah, I was looking for base class, thanks guys.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2010, 05:05:05 PM »
Q2: I'm looking for a creature that will be able to "pester" a 5th level party. By pester I mean a creature that has abilities and powers that allow it to pop in and out, make fun of the PCs, grab a loose item, but always be able to evade the groups attacks. Not something that would be used to TPK but one that could infuriate the party and just always remain out of reach. (I'm not looking to harm the party outright, just need a creature for a specific encounter.)
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 05:54:12 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2010, 03:15:31 PM »
Q2: I'm looking for a creature that will be able to "pester" a 5th level party. By pester I mean a creature that has abilities and powers that allow it to pop in and out, make fun of the PCs, grab a loose item, but always be able to evade the groups attacks. Not something that would be used to TPK but one that could infuriate the party and just always remain out of reach. (I'm not looking to harm the party outright, just need a creature for a specific encounter.)
A2: Do you have Heroes of Horror?  The bog imp is a nasty version that takes a more scary twist on it (and it's even an evil fey!).

Basically, it can wait in the water mostly out of sight, and simply make someone sink into the mud and start drowning from a short distance.  You can have it be malicious and just do this for fun, or it can wait until it thinks it will be successful and try to nab several people at an inopportune moment.

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Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
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I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
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Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
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Steve: *charges*
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Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2010, 04:40:16 AM »
Q3: Any suggestions for a good "caravan guard" adventure? 

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer (For DMs)
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2010, 08:37:06 AM »
Q 4 I'm reading over an adventure module that actually says "The adventuring party should consist of five to seven characters that are single classed and from 13th to 15th level. Multiclass characters should have a total character class level of from 16th to 18th level." Are mutliclass characters really that weak by comparison to single class characters?
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2010, 08:41:52 AM »
Q 4 I'm reading over an adventure module that actually says "The adventuring party should consist of five to seven characters that are single classed and from 13th to 15th level. Multiclass characters should have a total character class level of from 16th to 18th level." Are mutliclass characters really that weak by comparison to single class characters?

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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2010, 08:43:04 AM »
Q 4 I'm reading over an adventure module that actually says "The adventuring party should consist of five to seven characters that are single classed and from 13th to 15th level. Multiclass characters should have a total character class level of from 16th to 18th level." Are mutliclass characters really that weak by comparison to single class characters?

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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2010, 08:45:52 AM »
Q 4 I'm reading over an adventure module that actually says "The adventuring party should consist of five to seven characters that are single classed and from 13th to 15th level. Multiclass characters should have a total character class level of from 16th to 18th level." Are mutliclass characters really that weak by comparison to single class characters?

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Yes, you are. The joke being: how many single classed characters do you see in the min/max forum?

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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2010, 08:50:26 AM »
Yes, you are. The joke being: how many single classed characters do you see in the min/max forum?
Exactly. That's why I'm wondering if I was missing something from the module. I can't even imagine what they were referring to. Maybe they're thinking about something going Ranger 8/Rogue 2/Fighter 4 or something. I had to ask regardless because I was quite confused.

Q 5 How do I go about making this http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/ch/ch20001225b adventure into a pdf so I don't have to worry about accessing it online while gaming with the group?

Q 6 Did anyone make a 3.5 conversion for Bastion of Souls? Namely the half devil/half demon NPC. There's a bunch in there with DR 20/+4 or DR 10/+3, etc. I know it's not all DR magic.
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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2010, 09:08:28 AM »
Q 5 How do I go about making this http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/ch/ch20001225b adventure into a pdf so I don't have to worry about accessing it online while gaming with the group?

Q 6 Did anyone make a 3.5 conversion for Bastion of Souls? Namely the half devil/half demon NPC. There's a bunch in there with DR 20/+4 or DR 10/+3, etc. I know it's not all DR magic.
5. Print out the page using a PDF converter. PrimoPDF is pretty good, but it has drawbacks.

6. Halve it and make it DR/good (maybe silver as well, depending on how high the CR is supposed to be; take a look at the MM devils for inspiration).

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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2010, 09:10:42 AM »
5. Print out the page using a PDF converter. PrimoPDF is pretty good, but it has drawbacks.

6. Halve it and make it DR/good (maybe silver as well, depending on how high the CR is supposed to be; take a look at the MM devils for inspiration).
Didn't even know such a thing was possible.

It's a lot more difficult than that. The main reason I'm looking for the conversion is you've got dragons (unnamed, but I'm kind of guessing red dragons), half-dragons (again unnamed), creatures with DR 20/+6 (I'm guessing epic), half breeds, and other creatures that simply don't exist outside of the module.
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