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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #500 on: December 05, 2010, 06:47:07 PM »
Lack of weapon finesse means you'll be using your familiar's Strength score for delivering touch spells, so there is yet a purpose for it.  That said, Mindsight is still a better feat.
Not true. The text in the PHB describing familiars states that your familiar uses strength OR dexterity, whichever is higher, for purposes of attacks.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #501 on: December 05, 2010, 07:15:59 PM »
Lack of weapon finesse means you'll be using your familiar's Strength score for delivering touch spells, so there is yet a purpose for it.  That said, Mindsight is still a better feat.

Familiars get to use their DEX as a Class Feature, sort of. Doesn't take a feat.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #502 on: December 05, 2010, 08:40:34 PM »
Q164: Is there a Polymorph handbook around here? My search fu isn't coming up with anything.

Specifically I am looking for forms that are:

11 HD or less.
Good in combat. (Str/Con, Dex is nice too I guess)
Humanoid in body type.
Valid targets for a Human casting Draconic Polymorph.

Assume normal Polymorph rules, none of the BS erratas that have came out. WotC 3.5 generic (aka, not campaign specific) or Eberron sources only.

Also looking for 12 HD or more forms under the same conditions provided they are better than War Trolls.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #504 on: December 05, 2010, 09:05:51 PM »
Lack of weapon finesse means you'll be using your familiar's Strength score for delivering touch spells, so there is yet a purpose for it.  That said, Mindsight is still a better feat.

Familiars get to use their DEX as a Class Feature, sort of. Doesn't take a feat.
Only for "natural weapons."

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #505 on: December 05, 2010, 09:55:31 PM »
Q165
Can more then 1 character help craft a magic item (as help qualify for the prerequisites of item)?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #506 on: December 05, 2010, 10:59:06 PM »
Q165
Can more then 1 character help craft a magic item (as help qualify for the prerequisites of item)?

A165: Yes, but I can't get you a quote from where I am right now.  But if someone spends the whole time with you, explaining a spell to you, then you can use it.  I know this at least works for scrolls, if not others.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #507 on: December 05, 2010, 11:44:27 PM »
Q165
Can more then 1 character help craft a magic item (as help qualify for the prerequisites of item)?

I'm fairly sure a second character can provide the spell for you if you can't cast it yourself/don't have a scroll. I could swear it was in the crafting rules somewhere, but I'm AFB at the moment.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #508 on: December 05, 2010, 11:47:07 PM »
A165 wasn't there a web enhancement dealing with this? perhaps phb2?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #509 on: December 05, 2010, 11:50:37 PM »
Q166: Can you SA critical immune creatures if you have Dragonfire Strike?
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Sounds fine to me.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #510 on: December 05, 2010, 11:57:57 PM »
Q166: Can you SA critical immune creatures if you have Dragonfire Strike?
No.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #511 on: December 06, 2010, 12:01:52 AM »
Good. Just making sure.
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Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
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Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #512 on: December 06, 2010, 12:11:39 AM »
Q165
Can more then 1 character help craft a magic item (as help qualify for the prerequisites of item)?

A165:
Quote from: Dungeon Master's Guide pg215
It is possible for more than one character to cooperate in the creation of an item, with each participant providing one or more of the prerequisites.  In some cases, cooperation may even be necessary, such as if one character knows some of the spells necessary to create an item and another character knows the rest.

There we go, I knew it was in there.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #513 on: December 06, 2010, 12:12:40 AM »
Q165
Can more then 1 character help craft a magic item (as help qualify for the prerequisites of item)?

I'm fairly sure a second character can provide the spell for you if you can't cast it yourself/don't have a scroll. I could swear it was in the crafting rules somewhere, but I'm AFB at the moment.
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All items have prerequisites in their descriptions. These prerequisites
must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time,
they take the form of feats and spells that the item’s creator must
know, although access through another magic item or spellcaster
is allowed. It’s perfectly acceptable for two or more characters to
work together to create a magic item, with each character supplying
some of the prerequisites. (In all places where this text
refers to the “creator” of a magic item, it includes all characters
supplying at least one prerequisite for the item’s creation.) The
XP cost must always be paid by the character who supplies the
item creation feat required by the item, no matter how many
other characters cooperate in its creation.

Argh, ninja'ed. 
Well, I guess I did add a bit.  (notice the part about the item creation feat and xp)

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #514 on: December 06, 2010, 12:32:30 AM »
Lack of weapon finesse means you'll be using your familiar's Strength score for delivering touch spells, so there is yet a purpose for it.  That said, Mindsight is still a better feat.

Familiars get to use their DEX as a Class Feature, sort of. Doesn't take a feat.
Only for "natural weapons."
What do you think they deliver touch spells with?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #515 on: December 06, 2010, 12:51:22 AM »
Q165
Can more then 1 character help craft a magic item (as help qualify for the prerequisites of item)?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #516 on: December 06, 2010, 01:16:25 AM »
Q165
Can more then 1 character help craft a magic item (as help qualify for the prerequisites of item)?

I'm fairly sure a second character can provide the spell for you if you can't cast it yourself/don't have a scroll. I could swear it was in the crafting rules somewhere, but I'm AFB at the moment.
MIC, p232:
Quote

Argh, ninja'ed. 
Well, I guess I did add a bit.  (notice the part about the item creation feat and xp)

Q 165b Does this include scrolls?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #517 on: December 06, 2010, 01:22:07 AM »
Q 165b Does this include scrolls?
I don't see why not.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #518 on: December 06, 2010, 02:00:47 AM »
Q 165b Does this include scrolls?
I don't see why not.

Yes.  Why wouldn't it? 
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Quote from: Negative Zero on November 04, 2009, 02:16:14 AM
In my humble opinion, CO is haberdashery. Some say we're mad, but we can all agree we're hatters. Yes, we have potential to make very sophisticated hats, very fancy hats, be they dark or light. But the truth is that the color of the hat does not come from the group of us - our community doesn't directly produce hats. We simply give average head circumferences, list current fashion trends, and point out some shiny, obscure baubles to add to the latest hat line.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Part 20: Return of the Dread Gazebo
« Reply #519 on: December 06, 2010, 02:19:02 AM »
Lack of weapon finesse means you'll be using your familiar's Strength score for delivering touch spells, so there is yet a purpose for it.  That said, Mindsight is still a better feat.

Familiars get to use their DEX as a Class Feature, sort of. Doesn't take a feat.
Only for "natural weapons."
What do you think they deliver touch spells with?
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