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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #400 on: July 08, 2011, 04:48:58 PM »
Mind you, calling "sane" to the human who  decided to work as a maid in a mansion with two loli vampires, hordes of faeries and a wizard that likes to read books about how to cook humans, and said maid's idea of diplomacy being "stab first, ask questions later" (she's the one who insists on tackling Keine in IN and everything, and the Judge of PoFV insists she needs to be less stab-happy)... May be kinda of a stretch, even by Touhou standards.

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #401 on: July 08, 2011, 06:27:33 PM »
True. Its basically that none of the humans we went there can be considered the 'normal' humans the Moon is a hazard to.

Oh and another lunar locomotion method(faster than the shinto rocket)
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The lunar veil is one of several vehicles that allow one to travel between the Earth and the full moon. It's often confused with the divine robes of a celestial maiden, but the latter refers to articles of clothing constructed from antimatter, while the lunar veil is a zero-mass garment woven from moonlight. They are, of course, completely different things.
Ride a moonbeam.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

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"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #402 on: July 08, 2011, 07:48:21 PM »
Oh and another lunar locomotion method(faster than the shinto rocket)
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The lunar veil is one of several vehicles that allow one to travel between the Earth and the full moon. It's often confused with the divine robes of a celestial maiden, but the latter refers to articles of clothing constructed from antimatter, while the lunar veil is a zero-mass garment woven from moonlight. They are, of course, completely different things.
Ride a moonbeam.
...wait, what? Celestial maidens make clothes out of antimatter? :o
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #403 on: July 08, 2011, 07:55:24 PM »
Oh and another lunar locomotion method(faster than the shinto rocket)
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The lunar veil is one of several vehicles that allow one to travel between the Earth and the full moon. It's often confused with the divine robes of a celestial maiden, but the latter refers to articles of clothing constructed from antimatter, while the lunar veil is a zero-mass garment woven from moonlight. They are, of course, completely different things.
Ride a moonbeam.
...wait, what? Celestial maidens make clothes out of antimatter? :o
Eirin is the narrator, she presumably knows Magic Science.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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There is no higher price than 'free'.

"I won't die. I've been ordered not to die."

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #404 on: July 08, 2011, 08:23:07 PM »
...wait, what? Celestial maidens make clothes out of antimatter? :o


Its official, Tenshi has a Giratina.


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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #405 on: July 08, 2011, 08:56:21 PM »
Oh and another lunar locomotion method(faster than the shinto rocket)
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The lunar veil is one of several vehicles that allow one to travel between the Earth and the full moon. It's often confused with the divine robes of a celestial maiden, but the latter refers to articles of clothing constructed from antimatter, while the lunar veil is a zero-mass garment woven from moonlight. They are, of course, completely different things.
Ride a moonbeam.
...wait, what? Celestial maidens make clothes out of antimatter? :o
Eirin is the narrator, she presumably knows Magic Science.

It's pointed out in SSiB that the lunarians have both high magic and high tech and know how to combine them. Making them the most hax force of all of Touhou verse. No wonder even Yukari can't hope for anything better than stealing their booze even when rallying almost all other Touhou factions behind her.

The nuke-fan and god-sword are other good examples of their magitech.

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #406 on: July 09, 2011, 08:17:12 AM »
Yukari PoV
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I looked at the moon with its slightly dim edge. When that dim bit becomes lit the moon will be accessible from the Earth. It was not long ago that this became possible, only about a thousand years ago.

“The residents of Earth can never beat the residents of the moon.”

Ran had a puzzled look on her face.

“Huh? Can never beat...?”

“The Lunarians possess highly advanced technology, unyielding stamina, and abilities that are far out of reach of the youkai. The ones living on Earth can never beat those on the moon, especially in the Lunar Capital.”

“Th-then why have you, now of all times, decided to attack the moon!? It’s unreasonable, you really don’t believe what you just said, right?”

“No, I really do not think that we stand a chance against them.”

“...Then what are we doing tomorrow?”

“A new resident of Gensokyo has arrived from the moon. We must receive something in return. Residential tax, so to speak.”

Gensokyo is full of inhabitants that do as they like, but such freedom is not something that is promised. For everybody to live their lives with the least bit of freedom there needs to be a certain extent of rule. That rule will create a certain extent of hindrance to freedom, but that hindrance is necessary for freedom.

For example, humans of Gensokyo are constantly under the threat of being attacked by youkai, but they need to live with that threat to live in Gensokyo.

Youkai need to attack people because if they don’t do so, the meaning of their existence will be at risk, so youkai will attack humans.

The lives of those who live in Gensokyo are maintained by the youkai, and if there were no youkai in Gensokyo, Gensokyo would collapse. Thus, humans will not forget the fear that they have for the youkai and yet will not exterminate the youkai that might attack them, since doing so would destroy Gensokyo.

The opposite is also true, and if youkai didn’t have any humans to attack, the youkai would lose their meaning of existence. Thus youkai may attack humans but do not eat them for no apparent reason. Humans from the town are generally not for their eating under the contract.
I guess Catch-And-Release is how it works for the most part. Sorta like ritual wargaming.
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“The new residents that are from the moon chose to live as human and not as youkai. Thus the ones of Eientei chose to be humans.”

I added “save that rabbit” at the end, as that was not able to become human no matter how hard it tried.

“Human...? That family of aliens? ... Uuuh, I cannot see them as humans no matter how hard I try...”

“Oh, but it’s not a matter of looks. Those ones do not follow the rule of youkai and are trying to enter the human society, are they not?”

They sell medicine and they also look after the sick. Such actions are “work” in human society and differ from that in youkai society.

“True, they do not go well with youkai like us. The people of the town seem to think of them as strange humans too...”

“Yet they do not fulfill the role of humans.”

The humans in the outside world have roles they must fulfill too; to learn, to work, and to become a part of society, such as in the case of taxes. Gensokyo also has the manners of dealing with youkai.

“The roles of humans... Ah. Come to think about it, that’s right. Those ones do not fear youkai, and their existence can destroy the power balance between the humans and the youkai. ...But what does that have to do with the invasion of the moon?”

“I already told you that, didn’t I? I want residential tax. Even if it does strengthen the humans, if it was to the extent of curing the humans and caring for their wounds, I wouldn’t mind. But they are not fulfilling their roles in paying tax, and thus cannot be a part of human society.

“... Then do you plan to steal something from the capital as tax payment, because those ones are the moon’s residents?”
It was....tax collecting....
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Those vampires have the spirit that I've forgotten. The feeling that the humans outside have begun to forget about, and the feeling that shikigami whose thoughts centered around efficiency despised.

-The fun that would come from travelling in a poorly-built rocket and feeling miserable. Something that came from an easy and short method had no meaning to it. It was the spirit of enjoying hard work.

Long-living humans and youkai often forgot that soul, but the vampires still had a strong memory of it. That was why they neglected to go to the moon using my powers and insisted on going to the moon by their own hand.

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“If I tell you that much, you should understand, right? The fifteenth night used to be a perfect full moon, but by somebody’s doing, probably the Lunarian sage, the rotational period was changed and orbital period was altered. Before you knew it the fifteenth night was no longer a night of the perfect full moon. Thus the full moon would close quicker than expected.”

“So what you’re saying is that it was a trap that the Lunarian sage thought of to trap the youkai that would find its way into the moon using the full moon?”

“Exactly, a trap that was set for a very long time by the much-despised Lunarian sage.”
To trap the youkai that could use the border between the image of the full moon and the actual moon to cross...alter the time the moon is full.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2011, 09:42:05 AM by veekie »
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
[/spoiler]

There is no higher price than 'free'.

"I won't die. I've been ordered not to die."

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #407 on: July 11, 2011, 10:01:32 PM »
Fairies! and Shrooms!

New Oriental Sacred Place.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
[/spoiler]

There is no higher price than 'free'.

"I won't die. I've been ordered not to die."

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #408 on: July 12, 2011, 12:59:06 AM »
Fairies! and Shrooms!

New Oriental Sacred Place.
Why does it take so long to translate these anyway? RAWs of chapters 9-13 are available, and as for Wild and Horned Hermit... wait, when did chap3 come out? Some interesting stuff there...
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #409 on: July 12, 2011, 01:29:57 AM »
Plain lazyness? They aren't exactly geting paid for it after all. Just like  the characters in the comic are too lazy to fly and just walk/run everywhere (faeries jogging? In frilly dresses?? In the middle of the forest??? :psyduck )

Also no big suprise in Marisa being the resident mushroom specialist.

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #410 on: July 12, 2011, 01:36:36 AM »
Plain lazyness? They aren't exactly geting paid for it after all.
That applies to all scanlations though.
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #411 on: July 12, 2011, 01:37:28 AM »
It's more the RAW availability, I believe. The Touhou mangas don't exactly appear in Shounen Jump. I know that WaHH Chapter 3 was actually translated from a Chinese hard translation rather than the original Japanese RAWs because they just couldn't get their hands on them. If it were just laziness, you wouldn't see Gaku and umad putting out translated doujins by the score.
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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #412 on: July 12, 2011, 01:40:48 AM »
Touhouwiki has WaHH RAWs up to chap6...
« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 01:44:22 AM by Prime32 »
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #413 on: July 12, 2011, 09:33:55 AM »
Plain lazyness? They aren't exactly geting paid for it after all. Just like  the characters in the comic are too lazy to fly and just walk/run everywhere (faeries jogging? In frilly dresses?? In the middle of the forest??? :psyduck )
Frilly Dresses have neither ACP, Max Dex nor speed reduction, silly.

I'm more amused by Marisa basically going:
"I'm not gonna try those shrooms, they're risky. Hmm, eh, go ahead and take them. You're fairies, its not like you're gonna die of food poisoning."
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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There is no higher price than 'free'.

"I won't die. I've been ordered not to die."

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #414 on: July 12, 2011, 11:13:40 AM »
Touhouwiki has WaHH RAWs up to chap6...
What? Why didn't anyone tell me? You guys know I can somewhat decipher Japanese. Then yeah, it's probably "laziness", more likely "other things to do". Breaking the law isn't exactly high on many people's list of priorities.

At least WaHH 4 is translated, though, just not cleaned and edited yet (which really is the greatest pain in the ass about translating stuff). I have a translated script here on my drive, and have had it for a while.

Plain lazyness? They aren't exactly geting paid for it after all. Just like  the characters in the comic are too lazy to fly and just walk/run everywhere (faeries jogging? In frilly dresses?? In the middle of the forest??? :psyduck )
Frilly Dresses have neither ACP, Max Dex nor speed reduction, silly.

I'm more amused by Marisa basically going:
"I'm not gonna try those shrooms, they're risky. Hmm, eh, go ahead and take them. You're fairies, its not like you're gonna die of food poisoning."
More like "even if you die of food poisoning, it's not exactly permanent".
« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 11:18:04 AM by Agita »
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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #415 on: July 12, 2011, 01:11:39 PM »
Here are translations of WaHH 4 and 5. I can't vouch for their quality/accuracy compared to other sources but they seemed all right when I was reading them.
"But the delight and pride of Aulë is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing ever on to some new work."
Bardiche/Raising Heart OTP.
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« Reply #416 on: July 12, 2011, 02:04:15 PM »
Here are translations of WaHH 4 and 5. I can't vouch for their quality/accuracy compared to other sources but they seemed all right when I was reading them.
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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #417 on: July 12, 2011, 02:08:20 PM »
« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 02:12:29 PM by Prime32 »
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #418 on: July 12, 2011, 04:28:14 PM »
*shrug* You'd have to ask the translator.
"But the delight and pride of Aulë is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing ever on to some new work."
Bardiche/Raising Heart OTP.
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Re: TOUHOU!!!
« Reply #419 on: July 13, 2011, 10:17:48 PM »
So... has anyone ever completed Mystic Square's EX stage in English? I can't even find a transcript of the endings.
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]