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Playtime! => Retired PbP Games => Play by Post General => The Thorny Trail => : Alastar September 15, 2008, 07:48:49 PM

: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 15, 2008, 07:48:49 PM
Here is to post what you need to say, or ask, out of character.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 25, 2008, 10:42:19 PM
Ok, so according to surreal's character sheet, you have a steelwing mount.

I'm forgetting witch book it's from, but that won't be much of a problem.

I assume it's big enough to carry 6 medium creatures.

Also, you have to name it.  If everyone is okay with it, I will fastforward to your landing in the village, and that will officially start chapter one. 

also, Like I said in the prologue, is there something you don't really like so far, something that can be changed now, I'm not the best DM in the world, there's always room for improvement, and this is my first PbP campaign. Also I'm kinda nervous cause I'm playing with some big names of CO here, just wanna know if this isn't boring, and if it is, what can i do to change it.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal September 26, 2008, 03:45:44 AM
The steelwing is from MM5. It can carry 4 medium creatures, though Ling Ling is small and could just be stuffed into a sac, and Nym can fly himself. Might be a good idea to bring the boat along anyways though.

I didn't actually think of a name... let's go with something mundane: Cooper.

Pacing so far feels a little sluggish to me, but I'm kind of at fault there too as I've been really busy and haven't been able to post as much as I'd like. In my experience, little details like sorting out our gear just bog things down in PbP, but that's just me. I am generally a very easy going person when it comes to PbP and am used to a lot of laxity and have a tendency to skimp on details and just figure stuff out as it comes.

For future reference, if anyone would like to speak for Beyden for the sake of creating conversation, I am totally fine with that. His personality is not set in stone, so I am flexible with whatever happens. I am even ok if someone wants to temporarily hijack his actions, but you better be doing something cool ;) (or at least contributing meaningfully to the story). My general feeling towards PbP is that you can do just about anything, as long as it keeps the pace going.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw September 26, 2008, 06:05:55 AM
Replace 'stuffing Ling Ling into a sac' with 'letting Ling Ling ride on someones shoulder' and I pretty much agree with everything Surreal said :)

Come to think of it, Ling Ling could probably ride on Nym if Cooper is already fully loaded with 4 PC's and their gear (assuming that's okay with Nym/Caelic).
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho September 26, 2008, 06:31:36 AM
Sounds good to me. Wek'tcha doesn't have much in the way of gear, I haven't yet gotten into the habit of buying all of the little bits of adventuring gear that I should, and he has a HHH effect on his collar. Probably should say it looks like an amulet, that makes a bit more sense than pulling several-foot-wide objects from between his collar and his neck.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 26, 2008, 02:30:42 PM
I,m very ok with a reasonable amount of making the others talk, as long as it's nothing they wouldn't do, like giving you items or secret information.

But i think that's obvious.  Better say it out loud, 4 years in customer services has made me wary of human nature... :wall

Would nym be ok with being ridden, or does it go agaisnt what you want the others to know of you?

It's not ''your'' boat per say, it,s more a voyage on a boat, so you can't really ''take it'' you either go in the boat, or not.

The bird can follow the boat thought.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho September 26, 2008, 06:46:30 PM
I'm going to be gone for the weekend, up in the mountains where there probably won't be wireless access for my laptop. I should be back late sunday.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw September 26, 2008, 06:53:46 PM
Enjoy :)

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v September 27, 2008, 09:10:06 PM
Enjoy :)


+1

I do wish it'd go a little faster but this is my first PBP and people warned me that they go slow.
I'm trying to keep 1-2 a day post but... I did kinda figure hey we're talking to a superior Officer... so we'd be well on our way soon.
I wrote having a ship in my story. My character sleeps on it. Just an aside, I mean its not a river vessel.
What else. I'm really unsure how combat works but for the record Alstar... I really like how the story is shaping up.
Actually to everybody, good group of characters overall. They even sound like they'd be a team of Witch-hunters... good times.
 :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal October 10, 2008, 03:38:44 AM
And totally as an aside, I did originally intend for cooper to be female. Years ago I had a pet female cockatiel named Cooper. She had free reign to fly around the house as I did not like to keep her caged.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw October 14, 2008, 03:20:10 PM
Anybody home?  ???
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal October 14, 2008, 04:01:45 PM
I'm here. We Canucks just had our Thanksgiving long weekend, so it was busy for me. I don't know about the rest of you.

I'm a little unhappy with my own quality of posting, but that's kind of a combination of time constraints and my muse who apparently moves in sync with the stock market.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar October 14, 2008, 07:49:51 PM
Sorry, thanksgiving here too.

Might you be wanting to share a bit of your muse problems surreal?

As for me, I'm feeling a bit out of it, since my GF Left me recently... but I'm trying to post when I can, so keep up reading!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw October 15, 2008, 06:49:16 AM
Ah, my apologies, I'm not that familiar with US and Canadian holidays  :blush

And Alastar, good luck :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal October 15, 2008, 08:29:32 PM
My muse problems have more just been due to exhaustion from work. I wish I could say I had girl problems, but mostly they've just been annoying the *** out of me lately.

What we need is an adventure that starts in a bar with all the PCs complaining about women :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar October 15, 2008, 09:24:38 PM
Hahahaha, well, if you guys go to a bar, I'll make sure it happens ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal October 16, 2008, 02:03:30 AM
Wek'tcha: "... and after we copulated, so tried to eat me! What's up with that?"
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar October 16, 2008, 03:06:11 AM
 :wall :wall :wall

THE IMAGES, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw October 16, 2008, 06:09:50 AM
Wek'tcha: "... and after we copulated, so tried to eat me! What's up with that?"
Bwhaha, absolutely brilliant, Surreal  :lol
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho October 16, 2008, 11:46:36 PM
Man, never under-estimate the usefulness of a 50-foot teleport, Ronnie Van Zandt wouldn't have had to ask for three steps, he could have been out of the bar before the husband knew what happened.

edit: Oh yeah, I meant to say that I am out of town for the weekend, might have time to post, but not sure.

second edit: I wonder how long it would take some of the group to realize Wek'tcha meant it literally, not in the good way?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v October 16, 2008, 11:59:59 PM
WHat dice rollers should we use.
I've never used one before.
How does this work?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal October 17, 2008, 04:01:33 AM
Wek'tcha: "... and after we copulated, so tried to eat me! What's up with that?"
Bwhaha, absolutely brilliant, Surreal  :lol
Turns out Wek'tcha's mate was cheating on him with LingLing this whole time... http://humanelement.blogspot.com/2007/04/praying-mantis-vs-mouse-and-then-its.html
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal October 31, 2008, 09:37:20 PM
: midnight v
Thats because its numerically impossible for me to even approximate the rest of the teams scores.
As team leader with ranger levels, I actually have pretty mediocre ranger skills. I put most of my points into arcana/spellcraft since no one else really has them.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar November 06, 2008, 08:15:04 PM
I'm waiting for you guys to act, I'm trying not to plot railroad here, so you guys gotta take initiative.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal November 07, 2008, 01:55:07 AM
I say we take 20. Who has the highest modifier? Mine are terrible:
search +3
survival +6

And incidentally, I think a little railroading wouldn't hurt at this point as we're all still kind of tiptoe-ing around. Don't think of it as railroading so much as just pushing us down a gentle slope so we can gain momentum.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho November 07, 2008, 02:26:55 AM
I think Nym has the highest survival modifier, +17, and Ling Ling has the highest Search modifier, +17. If one person helps one and two help the other, if aiding another is allowed on those checks, we would have one 39 and one 41.

I have a +1 bonus to search, and a +4 bonus to survival, with track.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw November 09, 2008, 03:23:25 PM
For anyone who wants to try out a Shugenja, or is looking for some basic PbP action:
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=2460.msg81679#msg81679 (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=2460.msg81679#msg81679)

I'd do it myself if I weren't to busy with uni :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal November 11, 2008, 03:52:16 PM
Sorry guys, been dealing with BSOD. Will be back shortly when I can get a new computer set up.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal November 17, 2008, 04:44:20 PM
So... a week later, and I'm back online. The old computer is now deader than dead so I went out to buy a new machine. Then it took me half a week to figure out that Vista can't recognize dynamic disk volumes created by XP, so that took me the other half of the week to cobble together another frankenpc XP machine from spare parts so I could install my old hard drives and recover my data.

Doesn't look like i missed much.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar November 17, 2008, 10:47:57 PM
Yeah, I don't know why, but no one is moving, it's like everything is frozen in time.

You guys want me to narrate your characters moving onto the trail?  Because I don't know if that's what you want to do, maybe you want to go to the wood witch, maybe you want to go to the villagers, maybe you want to commit sepuku, i got no idea!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw November 18, 2008, 01:44:39 PM
I'm still here, I was just waiting for the others to voice their opinion on where to go.
My personal vote would be the Wood Witch, but I don't know what the rest of you guys think :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v November 18, 2008, 07:10:22 PM
Shit well Caelic isn't on the boards for whatever reason... but
Midnight_v Is here so lets roll into the the wood which...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho November 18, 2008, 11:41:22 PM
I meant to suggest heading to the wood witch, but I guess I didn't. Sorry.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal November 24, 2008, 03:10:47 AM
How many people were in the party that was sent before us?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar November 24, 2008, 04:49:38 AM
6, a full man team.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal November 25, 2008, 03:04:05 PM
Hmm, I'm considering that the bearded man and children/animals might be polymorphed/illusion'ed members of the former team. Or... they might just be bad guys (or both, haha!)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal November 26, 2008, 12:59:22 AM
I can't remember if we specified this or not... but is telepathy two-way? Can we just think things and have LingLing hear us, or do we have to "speak" directly to him?

In one of my other games, my character had telepathy and for simplicity we just house-ruled it as a telepathic bond between all party members plus whoever my PC wanted to contact directly.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar November 26, 2008, 03:33:30 AM
Telepathic bond it is.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw November 26, 2008, 06:41:35 AM
RAW it's two-way, but it requires the same amount of effort and time as speaking.
I checked before the game started :)

Anyway, telepathic bond for simplicity's sake sounds like a good idea :D

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v November 26, 2008, 10:38:08 AM
Ha! I just assumed sorry. I'd been reading the justice league watching J'onn do that same thing.
Well at least is sure now, Think loud enough and ling ling will hear your surface thoughts.
Some good.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal November 26, 2008, 02:51:20 PM
I bring it up because sometimes the line between telepathy and detect thoughts will get fuzzy.Treating it as telepathic bond just simplifies things (unless of course LingLing were to pick up detects thoughts later on :p)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw November 26, 2008, 04:05:17 PM
Yeah, not gonna happen :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho November 27, 2008, 04:25:41 AM
Well, I think I'm out of the woods magic-wise, same with Ling-Ling. Tylunth and Nym are screwed, I think, and I'm not sure about Beyden, if he can use the mind over magic ability on this, or if he should. So, should we kneel? I think we are all disciplined enough to not kneel unless ordered to by Beyden, even if we are friendly towards to wood witch.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw November 27, 2008, 07:04:58 AM
Agreed.

Also, Alastar, did you forget about Ling Ling's True Seeing? Assuming it was an illusion the 'Wood Witch' used, I should've seen right through it :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v November 27, 2008, 10:32:34 AM
: Nodaisho
Well, I think I'm out of the woods magic-wise, same with Ling-Ling. Tylunth and Nym  are screwed, I think, and I'm not sure about Beyden, if he can use the mind over magic ability on this, or if he should. So, should we kneel? I think we are all disciplined enough to not kneel unless ordered to by Beyden, even if we are friendly towards to wood witch.
Kind of a dire assesment considering...
Tylunth is immune to mind altering effects ;), or is there something else supposed to screw me?
...
It wouldn't do for a guy with the epiteth "the oppressor" to go getting "opressed" through charm diplomacy or dominate now would it? 

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar November 27, 2008, 12:09:08 PM
Well it's the bardic ability fascinate.

What's your power that makes you immune to such? I'll go look it up.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal November 27, 2008, 02:18:46 PM
Yeah, I also have mind blank (and thus immune to fascinate) and the ability to see magical auras (so while I might not see through the illusions, I know they're not real) . I've copied and pasted more stuff into my character sheet on the forums.

What's done is done though, so I'll just play it as is.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw November 27, 2008, 02:35:36 PM
You and your immunities...
I hate you guys :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar November 27, 2008, 03:05:32 PM
Let's just, for realities sake, assume they had a nystul's magic aura going on.

Sorry, I'll try to be more precise in the future.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw November 27, 2008, 03:10:08 PM
No prob :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho November 27, 2008, 06:42:11 PM
: Nodaisho
Well, I think I'm out of the woods magic-wise, same with Ling-Ling. Tylunth and Nym  are screwed, I think, and I'm not sure about Beyden, if he can use the mind over magic ability on this, or if he should. So, should we kneel? I think we are all disciplined enough to not kneel unless ordered to by Beyden, even if we are friendly towards to wood witch.
Kind of a dire assesment considering...
Tylunth is immune to mind altering effects ;), or is there something else supposed to screw me?
...
It wouldn't do for a guy with the epiteth "the oppressor" to go getting "opressed" through charm diplomacy or dominate now would it? 


Ah, I didn't see it on your sheet, but then again, I didn't know what half the stuff meant.

If it is fascinate, I'm not immune, I'm only immune to things that don't target monstrous humanoids, they specify being immune to things that target humanoids, but that is just because that is what is usually used on PCs.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw November 27, 2008, 06:46:14 PM
Same thing goes for me unfortunately.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v November 29, 2008, 04:26:48 PM
So uhm... are we gonna kill these guys or what? I mean being witch huters and all ....
I mean hell Beyden has what like 5 levels of the witch hunter prestige class, and she introduced herself as the "Wood Witch"
and tried to "magic us" ... should we just roll initiative?
I don't to start the killing then we're all wavering like "we shouldna done it"?
Next level I'm going to buy some masterwork torturer's tools. I want answers. Seriously.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho November 30, 2008, 02:36:56 AM
Well, it seems to me that they would be powerful allies to have, and the man knowing the formations likely means something. We could probably take them, but do we need to, and would it be beneficial? We were called in for the wolves, seems like the villagers don't want the wood witch dead.

The man could very well be the sixth member that Te'on mentioned, and the wood witch has offered her assistance, I would suggest that we don't do anything hostile, say that we would be more likely to trust her if she didn't attempt to magic us without our consent, try to be civil. We can be civil while still planning how to kill them if it doesn't go well, that's what diplomacy is.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal November 30, 2008, 03:54:51 AM
I suppose now would be a good time to define just how "extreme" the witch hunters are. Yeah we hunt down spellcasters and those who pervert natural magic, but what exactly is our stance on the monstrous magic, fey, and otherwise "natural" magic? Also, what is our stance on divine divine? (and perhaps religion in general)

Also, my gut tells me they're out of our CR range.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v November 30, 2008, 05:58:38 AM
I suppose now would be a good time to define just how "extreme" the witch hunters are.
Agreed. We should really know what we are. I would think that the Harren' daen kar contains the gamut of many different style teams but which are ultimately licensed to kill.
Whats your general feeling about it?
I suppose we can just hold our actions till Alstar clears it up.
Also, my gut tells me they're out of our CR range.
I think the opposite.
However, they do have action advantage which is a quantifiable thing.
Here are my actions...
I could start with a diplomacy check @ + 18 or an intimidate check @ + 26.
plus or minus circumstance modifiers Alastar might add due to how Tylunth phrases the argument.

Which would be something in the vein of:
A. Diplomacy: You're not being forthwith towards us genteel lady. We have come in peace searching to aide lost friends have not hard the wood to which you lay claim nor anything in it. Now your fellows draw arms and you tempt our minds with the might of your beauty. You realize we are witch hunters but we did not come here seeking to destroy you. Please do not insult us in our overture of peace. I will not kneel it is against our order but if you'll deal with us even handedly we all may benefit from the meeting.  
or
B: Initimidate: Ha ha ha.. Tylunth slowly claps his hands. Clap Clap Clap Ha ha ha! You know who we are and yet still proclaim yourself.  Still make demands.  A low steady rumble issues out and for a second one would almost think the bear was growling a response, but it is Tylunth  who proceeds in a deep baritone.
 "... We are Harren Daen Kar! You know this? Realize who we are and yet still you bluster!
Wood Bitch of the pines!  Do you know what happens next? I'll tell you don't guess! Half of you die in this fight right here, right now. Quasi immortal lives stamped out."
  He begins to creshendo in volume. A subtle tug at the listeners ego.
  "Maybe more but at least half. Maybe only one of use lives maybe none, but less than a moon from now 2 teams of Harren daen kar show up. These with kill orders not search orders.  Defeat them and in less time than that a battalion gets fielded and they come and start by setting the forest fires. . . and killing everything that tries to run out!"
The creshendo escalates into a solid yank at the comfort of all present.
You've taken off your mask and shown us a thing of beauty, SHALL I NOW SHOW YOU MY TRUE FACE, AND LET THE EATING OF LIVES BEGIN! BE YOU SURE OF ONE THING! I HATE BEAUTY AND ONCE IT STARTS I'M TAKING THAT PRETTY LITTLE FACE OF YOURS OFF BEFORE I GO. . .  
he calms slightly.
  ...Weigh in my eyes the the truth of my words... but decide wood bitch. Humility and parley or Pride and WREAKAGE!
The Oppressor pauses in some kind of murderous aposiopesis hocks lowdly and spits.

Decide... you have 5 seconds. My life matters to me none. Decide.  

Now the diplomacy I'm not stricly against it but do it for the good of the group, the second part is more flushed our because that's my concept of the character. Basically a big scary guy who isn't stupid and intimdates by presenting either logical and truthful outcomes or something "far-realm-lovecraft insane rambling ness thats random yet relavant enough to scare the shit out of the opponent. . .
I'm thinking the second one is my real option.. but I figured I'd run it by everybody before I get too attactched to Tylunth the oppressor doing his thing.
Also ... I have that lingering intimidate thing. So if I intimidate someone outsided of combat they're friendly for 24 hours also I have a +4 to initmidate them whenever we meet after than. So yeah I'm hoping to get some use out of my intimidate. So diplomacy and inimidate for me have the same effect ulitmately.  I'm hoping I could get some aid another though to make sure the check goes off. Some grim face looks or bared teeth or something.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar November 30, 2008, 06:49:28 AM
Basically, every witch hunter joins and fights for different reasons. You ultimately have license to kill and little to no responsability on all monster kills and so forth.  Defining how strong your stance agaisn't magic is is up to you.  Might be a good time to clarify it.

Btw, the satyr fascinated you, the wood witch only has a charisma score of around 30, that's why she has this aura of impressiveness.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v November 30, 2008, 02:26:21 PM
Basically, every witch hunter joins and fights for different reasons. You ultimately have license to kill and little to no responsability on all monster kills and so forth.  Defining how strong your stance agaisn't magic is is up to you.  Might be a good time to clarify it.
Hmm... Thanks for the quick response, Alstar, I know the games been dragging recently. I'm checking everyday but don't want to do to much till I get the gist of the party's dynamic.
In anycase about stance against magic:
Tylunth has a mission from his "God" to slay as many arcane casters as possible, but as many as possible = a long term binding type deal Atrphous or Dendar (or whoever) already is immune to divinity so the only threat when he shows up will be arcanes. Still Atrophus won't be showing up un his lifetime so tylunth seeks to rise as high in the witch hunters as possible and potentially push their political goals toward "Destroy all spellcasters".
Realistically, thats a long term thing so he doesn't have to "kill everycaster he sees" which is moot in the grand scheme of things.
 So he's not some stark raving lunatic outside of combat. In combat Tylunth should be scary as hell, or at least that how I hope he comes off...

Btw, the satyr fascinated you, the wood witch only has a charisma score of around 30, that's why she has this aura of impressiveness.
Ahh I read that, but isn't fascinate a mind altering effect? I'm actually pretty up on the story I just thought Tylunth's "immune to mind altering effects" would protect him vs fascinate. . .
I'll be pretty embarassed if I wrote all that to find out i'm "dizzy" or whatever. One sec.
Let me hit up the srd.

Any obvious threat, such as someone drawing a weapon, casting a spell, or aiming a ranged weapon at the target, automatically breaks the effect. Fascinate is an enchantment (compulsion), mind-affecting ability
.
Okay so Tylunth is in the clear to give a little speech.
For the rest of us though... The fascinate will end at "obvious threats" so its not really a save or die thankfully.

*sigh* So how do you guys want to play it?



: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw November 30, 2008, 02:48:37 PM
Arcane casters are the ones I'm after, druidic style characters I don't have that many problems with, aside from those that abuse their power in some way...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 01, 2008, 02:17:49 PM
Just as a reminder, druidic magic is by default the 'monster magic'' but most of you ARE ''monsters'' so it is up to you how to deal with it.

I'd like to hear wek'tcha's and Beyden's sance on that, as well as nym's if he's still around.

If any of you can succeed on a knowledge ''nature'' check DC 25, you will know more about the man with the 6 floating swords.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho December 02, 2008, 02:10:51 AM
Wek'tcha is in it because he is good at it, and it is a job (I imagine it would be hard to find a decent job as a monster). He doesn't want to kill mages simply because they are mages, he would rather stick to ones that actually have been doing harm to people.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 02, 2008, 04:45:30 AM
Here's my/Beyden's stance on it:
- arcane: magic is by it's nature a perversion and must be eliminated or at least controlled (and as such, fighting fire with fire is permitted... though strictly regulated in a very fuzzy and confusing way, much like gun control laws)
- divine: the gods' era of direct influence in this realm have passed. Their powers are expressed through their mortal supplicants (clerics, etc), and these men are to be given their due respects, but even they must abide by the laws and not imbalance the natural order of the world
- natural/druidic: natural magic is tolerated, but it is unpredictable, and it's users are less likely to abide by the laws (and their lands are perhaps outside the jurisdiction of the witch hunters, but that doesn't stop the hunters from wanting to extend their arm and setting things "right"... think global politics and military pressure). As with divine, those who twist the magic for their own use and/or upset the natural order of things are hunted down.

How does that sound to you guys? This is just something I whipped up quickly, so it's by no means set in stone. I would expect that perhaps different factions within the Witch Hunters would even see things differently. Things are never black and white after all (though for gaming purposes, it might be simpler to just assume a uniform belief; I'm ok with that)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho December 02, 2008, 04:47:51 AM
We could assume an official attitude, and then different characters have different ideas that are close to those (or some people might just be in it for the money or the power, and really don't give a shit about anything else).
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v December 02, 2008, 06:18:14 AM
: Alastar
Basically, every witch hunter joins and fights for different reasons. You ultimately have license to kill and little to no responsability on all monster kills and so forth.  Defining how strong your stance agaisn't magic is is up to you.  Might be a good time to clarify it.

Btw, the satyr fascinated you, the wood witch only has a charisma score of around 30, that's why she has this aura of impressiveness.
Well I get how the Harren Daen'kar feel about it officially.
I just don't want to constantly be the catalyst for "Unwanted" conflict, but it is good to know where everyone stands.
BTW is Beyden fascinated? Ling ling appears to be...
I'm just wondering does anyone actually "Kneel before the Witch Queen" and all that...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho December 02, 2008, 06:23:27 AM
I think Beyden is immune to mind-affecting effects (god, I hate trying to remember effect/affect), so he is fine.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v December 02, 2008, 06:35:52 AM
I think Beyden is immune to mind-affecting effects (god, I hate trying to remember effect/affect), so he is fine.
Funny ... I've honestly always read that as Mind ALTERING effects... wow.
Well do you think I should edit the post and do diplomacy at +18 or intimidate @ + 26 or try both?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 02, 2008, 09:17:24 AM
I'm fascinated -.-'

As for our stance on magic, I rather like what Surreal whipped up :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 02, 2008, 02:46:36 PM
I think Beyden is immune to mind-affecting effects (god, I hate trying to remember effect/affect), so he is fine.
Beyden is immune (I think I mentioned that a few posts up).

Tylunth is also immune. LingLing is fascinated. What about Wek?

p.s. http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/affect-versus-effect.aspx

I'm just wondering does anyone actually "Kneel before the Witch Queen" and all that...
I think I'll be able to address this in my next post, so no one kneel just yet unless you're fascinated.

Caelic and SkyDragonknight barely seem to be playing anymore... :(
Caelic hasn't been on the board at all. Some of the main CO posters have expressed worry at this point.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 02, 2008, 03:43:22 PM
I hope he's just busy with RL stuff, like back with the "Is Caelic on vacation?" thread over on 339.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 02, 2008, 04:41:59 PM
Wektcha saved.

So basically only ling ling is affected.... I,m impressed!!!

Bardic fascinate is often a strong offensive power.

I also hope caelic is only busy with rl stuff.

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 04, 2008, 11:44:19 PM
Also, my gut tells me they're out of our CR range.
I think the opposite.
Just wanted to say... while the chain/weapon creature isn't necessarily a ragewalker (fey, MM3)... I'm just generally cautious.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 05, 2008, 07:09:16 AM
It doesn't hurt to be cautious :)
Also, I loved how you handled the 'kneel before me' part, Surreal :D

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 05, 2008, 07:15:22 PM
I may have a lousy diplomacy score, but that doesn't mean I can't be diplomatic :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v December 05, 2008, 08:38:24 PM
I may have a lousy diplomacy score, but that doesn't mean I can't be diplomatic :D
:D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 05, 2008, 11:37:50 PM
hehehe, well, she didN,t want to tuss with witch hunters anyways ;)

Finally someone who knows what a ragewalker is :D  it's my favorite kinda fey.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 06, 2008, 04:37:11 AM
A ragewalker would be a really tough fight too. With a witch alongside, we'd be in bad shape.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 06, 2008, 08:28:10 AM
So, how long till Ling Ling is no longer influenced by that Fascinate effect? :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v December 06, 2008, 04:26:10 PM
A ragewalker would be a really tough fight too. With a witch alongside, we'd be in bad shape.
Interesting... I knew that wast he picture of a ragewalker but I honestly thought it was something else because its like what 4 levels higher than us?
When it started responding to my characters anger that I was like ... w...t...f... it is. Good call, surreal.
I'd like take a swing at making a couple changes to my build. The last day it was rushed in and I realize that I never worked that level of crusader in and the such so if no one objects I'd like to adjust. We just have a lack of healing so I think I can pull that with minimal hurt to my pc. Oh and my intimidate check is actually 29 I failed to calculate willing deformity in the mix.  Alstar?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 06, 2008, 04:48:09 PM
You have my go.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v December 06, 2008, 04:49:23 PM
You have my go.
:D You da man.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 06, 2008, 08:21:31 PM
for the record, this wasn't meant to be a fight, but i think you guys could have handled them.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 06, 2008, 08:24:29 PM
Yeah, I guess we're just that awesome :P

EDIT: Go ahead as far as I'm concerned, M_V, any improvement to the party is a good thing :D



: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v December 06, 2008, 11:49:52 PM
 :D

Thanks Bowen It just dawned on me suddenly that he was supposed to have originally been a crusader but I'd been wanting some zhentarim soilder levels and trying to get it all in I hit the "Let start" deadline.
Shouldn't affect things too much. White raven tacticss for all!
More later.
M.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 07, 2008, 05:25:23 PM
btw, I,m just waiting for the end of the tylunth/ragewalker faceoff to move on.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 07, 2008, 07:04:00 PM
for the record, this wasn't meant to be a fight, but i think you guys could have handled them.
The last time I said that as a DM, it wound up being a TPK... :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v December 07, 2008, 08:53:58 PM
btw, I,m just waiting for the end of the tylunth/ragewalker faceoff to move on.
Funny I thought that was settle as both Beyden and The woodwhich called off the "Time bombs" on their team"
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 11, 2008, 04:23:48 AM
Well guys, what shall we ask of the witch? So far, I'm thinking:
1) what is the nature of the wolves/creatures attacking the villagers
2) how may we find and defeat them
3) what happened to the previous party
But we can word those a little better.

Also, I don't think it's necessary to use in game posts to telepathically say things like "let's talk amongst ourselves" etc. Yeah that's what we're going to do in ooc, but in game it's a little too metagamed, and honestly you'll never actually be able to have a whole conversation while someone is waiting for you to ask your questions.

As for this...
"Beyden, do you want me to do the talking, or would you like to do the talking after everyone's thoughts are communicated to you?" Ling Ling asks his team leader telepathically.
As a team that has supposedly worked together for a while, I would trust that if one of you feels he can ask a question without directly consorting the others, the please feel free to do so. Beyden is your commanding officer, not a babysitter.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho December 12, 2008, 02:59:54 AM
Perhaps I am operating on a different definition of metagaming, but I thought it meant using out of game knowledge in-game. Being careful with your wishes and questions is one of the very old morals, the kind that occurs in every society.

The questions seem pretty good, but I agree the wording needs work.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 14, 2008, 11:56:47 AM
so... it someone going to try to rephrase them?

You've all agreed you should do it, but will you?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 15, 2008, 08:30:06 PM
in 24 hours, i will consider the worded questions as the official questions, and the queen shall answer.

So get cracking ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 16, 2008, 04:13:05 PM
Sorry guys, no time for any real RP this week, too busy with uni.
Hope to be able to post again next week.

Good luck,
Bowen :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 16, 2008, 08:21:46 PM
Oh true, finals.

Just tell me when your ready k?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 17, 2008, 05:59:36 AM
Will do, propably somewhere next week, hopefully no later than wednesday.\\
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 18, 2008, 04:47:59 AM
I too was hoping for some sort of input regarding the questions. If no one else pipes up by tomorrow though, I'll see about making a post.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho December 18, 2008, 05:09:33 PM
Rewording-wise, it seems like the only change needed would be making it more specific. Something like "What is the nature of the creatures that attacked the villagers ___", fill in the blank with a place, the battleground we found, maybe, or fill it in with the time period of the attacks. The second question is fine, the third one should probably ask "What happened to the previous team of Harren'Daen'Kar to come to the village?" Those all sound good?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 21, 2008, 06:19:13 PM
New job as bouncer
getting adjusted to it
Will post on monday


Yes, this was a haiku.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho December 24, 2008, 07:03:31 PM
Tomorrow, I'll be heading to the other side of the country, I will be erratic in posting (no wireless, very limited time online, if at all). I'll be back on the fifth.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v December 25, 2008, 10:33:13 AM
Well the holidays are a busy time for alll....
New year, new and renewed attention to our adventure!
Can't wait to catch up guys
M_v
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 25, 2008, 02:13:06 PM
Happy Holidays! :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic December 30, 2008, 02:40:56 PM
Heya, folks.

Sorry for my long absence; RL has been a bit hectic.  If you've moved far enough along in the story that you'd rather not have me pop back in, I understand completely, but I owed you all an apology in any case.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v December 30, 2008, 05:32:06 PM
Dude its been slow for all of us...
I for one am always glad to have you around.
Hope everythings good for you now.
Happy Holidays.
Heya, folks.

Sorry for my long absence; RL has been a bit hectic.  If you've moved far enough along in the story that you'd rather not have me pop back in, I understand completely, but I owed you all an apology in any case.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 30, 2008, 06:09:05 PM
What he said *points up*
Good to have you back, Caelic :)

I'll be slow for most of January as well (got 4 exams next month), but I'll check our game at least every 2 days.

Happy Holidays,
~Bowen
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 30, 2008, 08:05:38 PM
Nym walks into the room covered in feathers and lacerations.

"Hey Nym, what happ..."

"I don't want to talk about it."

"but why are you blee..."

"I said, I don't want to talk about it..."




In the distance, a bird caws with satisfaction.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 30, 2008, 09:13:34 PM
Hahahahahahahahahaha

good to have you back, i assumed you were scouting while in bird form, there's no problem at all with you joining back.

Just read to catch up a bit.

Or maybe you were just fooling around with cooper, you devilishly handsome man you!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 31, 2008, 07:32:24 AM
Please take home another internet, Surreal :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal January 01, 2009, 07:24:16 PM
Beyden was trying to speak on behalf of the team in order to protect them from any potential mishaps. Seems the queen wants it directly from each member though.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 02, 2009, 05:35:56 AM
Yeah, unseelie feys tend to be bitchy ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v January 02, 2009, 12:59:09 PM
Hmm... interesting... I wonder are we standing in a zone of truth or something... :(
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 02, 2009, 02:13:45 PM
At this point, your gonna have to take a guess.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 07, 2009, 05:08:19 AM
sorry, real life stuff caught to me, will psot more.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 07, 2009, 02:41:33 PM
Heh, real life tends to be a bitch some time, take care ;)

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal January 19, 2009, 10:34:02 PM
So... how's everyone doing?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v January 19, 2009, 10:54:25 PM
So... how's everyone doing?
Mayn! I'm just glad somebody said something. I was really starting to worry...
I'm doing good. Schools about to start back but my work load this semester is waay reduced which makes me really glad.
I just want to say that I'm looking foward to seeing where our adventure takes us.   :D
How're you Surreal? Bowen? ...anybody?
Ahh well.
Waiting...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho January 20, 2009, 05:30:14 AM
Well, I'm still here, at least most days. School is starting up today, but I'll still be here, unless my laptop crashes before I fix my desktop (in which case, I'll have worse things to worry about than not posting).
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 20, 2009, 07:04:24 AM
Got exams this week and next week, but I should be able to check 2-3 times a week, after that on a daily basis again :)

So yeah, I'm still here :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic January 22, 2009, 11:29:47 AM
I'm here.  Just waiting to see what happens next...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 22, 2009, 02:52:33 PM
Ready to leave the Wood Witch's shack and go goblin-hunting :)

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v January 22, 2009, 06:32:59 PM
So all thats missing is our illustrious Dm...
Though I seem to remeber a 5th member...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal January 22, 2009, 07:01:12 PM
I think we're all here except for Alastar. His profile shows he was last active Jan 15.

We could always free form for a bit...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v January 22, 2009, 07:08:25 PM
I think we're all here except for Alastar. His profile shows he was last active Jan 15.

We could always free form for a bit...
Sounds cool I guess... I'm not entirely sure what that entails...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 23, 2009, 06:49:20 AM
Juggle geese?

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal January 23, 2009, 02:40:37 PM
Free form is just making stuff up and storytelling. Sure we could juggle geese or make a pass at the Queen, or Wek could eat a cat or something. We could probably even get started looking for goblins, though keep overall game disrupting content to a minimum (though the longer Alastar is away, the more we'll mess things up :D)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic January 23, 2009, 04:59:20 PM
or Wek could eat a cat or something.


(Looks around, notices that he's the only "cat" in the vicinity at the moment.  "ExCUSE me?  Don't even try it, or I am SO going Cave Troll in your stomach!"
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 23, 2009, 07:55:44 PM
Bwahaha, I love this party and it's dynamic :P

BTW, stay away from the magical mice as well, please :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 26, 2009, 09:25:03 PM
A'ight, update from my side.

Long story mediumly short, my ex-girlfriend, who was a virgin when we started dating 2 years ago, recently announced to me that she had slept with two guys since we broke up, one of witch was a one night in a hotel room.  Being still in love with her at the time, and probly still a bit right now, i was tremendously hurt by that statement, for no logical reason, and the whole thing degenerated in a 3 day argument with my main thesis revolving around ''whore'' and her main thesis revolving around ''jackass''.  My creativity took a blow from such events, as have many aspects of my life, and I would like to apologise for not being more present.

Where I am from, you do not have excuses, only facts that you expose, before taking the blame for yourself, i should not have let my misguided hopes go so far, and i should have delt with it better than i did, so i once again apologise.

I'm writing something right now, closing the fey chapter.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v January 26, 2009, 09:32:23 PM
A'ight, update from my side.

Long story mediumly short, my ex-girlfriend, who was a virgin when we started dating 2 years ago, recently announced to me that she had slept with two guys since we broke up, one of witch was a one night in a hotel room.  Being still in love with her at the time, and probly still a bit right now, i was tremendously hurt by that statement, for no logical reason, and the whole thing degenerated in a 3 day argument with my main thesis revolving around ''whore'' and her main thesis revolving around ''jackass''.  My creativity took a blow from such events, as have many aspects of my life, and I would like to apologise for not being more present.

Where I am from, you do not have excuses, only facts that you expose, before taking the blame for yourself, i should not have let my misguided hopes go so far, and i should have delt with it better than i did, so i once again apologise.

I'm writing something right now, closing the fey chapter.
That's heavy bro...
No apology needed.
Where I am from, you do not have excuses, only facts that you expose, before taking the blame for yourself, i should not have let my misguided hopes go so far, and i should have delt with it better than i did, so i once again apologise.
thats true but I hope you're not talking about the game there, but speaking about the betrayal she dealt you. . .
Damn. Stay Strong Bro.
M_v
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 26, 2009, 09:44:47 PM
I meant, i am not saying this as an excuse, i am saying this so that you understand what has been going on, the fault is mine for not having posted.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho January 27, 2009, 02:41:09 AM
or Wek could eat a cat or something.


(Looks around, notices that he's the only "cat" in the vicinity at the moment.  "ExCUSE me?  Don't even try it, or I am SO going Cave Troll in your stomach!"
"You kidding? Do you know how fattening cats are? That's assuming I can keep one down, you think you've seen big furballs before?"

Alastar, no worries, RL comes first.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal January 27, 2009, 04:50:23 AM
My trials and tribulations with women lately can be summed up thusly... http://xkcd.com/458/

Except I'm in the first column.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 27, 2009, 07:51:40 AM
No apologies Alastar, RL comes first. I can totally understand shit like this fucking you up, I've been there. So yeah, good luck, hang in there and all that jazz :)

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal January 30, 2009, 06:05:11 AM
Say, did we tell Cooper to stay put or would she be flying overhead somewhere?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 30, 2009, 06:42:46 AM
Watch your back, Nym :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic January 30, 2009, 10:19:54 AM
"Mountain of cheese?"  Wait...I thought this PARTY was the mountain of cheese!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 30, 2009, 11:04:19 AM
I saw that one coming a mile away!! :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 30, 2009, 08:39:07 PM
Btw, you guys are lucky, last time i Dmed an encounter with unseelie fey's, the whole group ended up getting into a homosexual orgy induced throught drugs with a bunch of satyrs.

You got off the good way, cause one of you has decent charisma, and the queen is susceptible to handsome men ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal January 30, 2009, 09:29:17 PM
Wait, so... does that make me Tylunth's pimp?

I think we must have misspelled Witch Hunters...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v January 30, 2009, 10:01:28 PM
Wait, so... does that make me Tylunth's pimp?

I think we must have misspelled Witch Hunters...

Maybe for now. . . but if ever we get locked up in this adventure.

 It's you, and me guy...  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrLRe6bpMfU)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 31, 2009, 08:49:21 AM
Bwahaha :lmao
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 02, 2009, 10:17:15 PM
btw guys, you want me to narrate your dinner, or you want to do a bit of chit chat and resume what you're going to do, i don't know witch one to go with,...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 03, 2009, 06:48:11 AM
I'm fine with both, really, I'm not that great at initiating chit-chat, and neither is Ling Ling :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 03, 2009, 11:11:02 AM
I'm fine with both, really, I'm not that great at initiating chit-chat, and neither is Ling Ling :P
Hmm... No we can prolly skip the dinner really. Or just take a rest.
I really need to add a level of crusader to Tylunth...  :( damn I hate week days...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 03, 2009, 11:56:07 AM
Oh btw, 2500 exp to everyone for the encounter with the feys.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 03, 2009, 12:50:29 PM
Sweet :)

EDIT: Only 500 XP to go to level 10 and my first Soul Eater level :D

EDIT 2: Hey Alastar, seeing as Ling Ling has already bough back his LA, he was one ECL lower that the rest of the party, wouldn't that mean he get's more XP?

(Yeah, trying to hit that first Soul Eater level, sue me :P)

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 03, 2009, 06:50:43 PM
Sweet :)

EDIT: Only 500 XP to go to level 10 and my first Soul Eater level :D

EDIT 2: Hey Alastar, seeing as Ling Ling has already bough back his LA, he was one ECL lower that the rest of the party, wouldn't that mean he get's more XP?

(Yeah, trying to hit that first Soul Eater level, sue me :P)


!
Experience the river? Awww hell naw!  :lol
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 03, 2009, 08:39:51 PM
Minus my pimpin' fee of course ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 03, 2009, 08:56:30 PM
Minus my pimpin' fee of course ;)
:lmao - good times
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 03, 2009, 09:23:35 PM
Not for ad Hoc xp like that, but i will calculate xp individually according to ECL when you get a CR encounter.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 04, 2009, 07:14:47 AM
Cool :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 04, 2009, 07:36:17 PM
By the way, who would be open to the idea of an IRC or something chat room to deal with battles?  So you don't have to wait for everything, and you can then react in good time to everything.  We could try setting a date that is in accordance to everyone's schedule and just do one battle at a time.

Just throwing it out there.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho February 05, 2009, 12:55:57 AM
That might work, aren't we a multi-continental crowd, though? That will highly limit the time we can spend.

I have come down with what I think is the flu, so while I'll try to remember to post here (I should bookmark this place, otherwise I never remember), I'm not going to be too clear-headed for a while.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 05, 2009, 03:24:18 AM
I have a ridiculous schedule and I'm almost never home, so I can't commit to IRC for combat.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 07, 2009, 08:11:18 PM
How exactly will we be handling battle and initiative in particular? In any PbP I've ever been in, actual initiative has typically been glossed over in favour of speeding up play so we don't have to wait for fellow players.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 07, 2009, 08:14:27 PM
Well, this is my first time Dming a battle on PbP, so I'll make the same mistake as other DM's and abide by the initiative order:

POst this: your complete actions, accompanied by attack rolls and possible damage rolls. 
Your movement and skill checks accompanied by success or failure scenarios
Your AoO Attack rolls
Your immediate actions, if any.
If they cast spells i will roll the saving throw for you, using your character sheets, you don't have much in the way of spells, so I'm cool for saving throws, I'll check this a lot, so I'll roll ASAP if there's any.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 07, 2009, 09:54:42 PM
Well, this is my first time Dming a battle on PbP, so I'll make the same mistake as other DM's and abide by the initiative order:

POst this: your complete actions, accompanied by attack rolls and possible damage rolls. 
Your movement and skill checks accompanied by success or failure scenarios
Your AoO Attack rolls
Your immediate actions, if any.
If they cast spells i will roll the saving throw for you, using your character sheets, you don't have much in the way of spells, so I'm cool for saving throws, I'll check this a lot, so I'll roll ASAP if there's any.
Great my first PBP also I was wondering how this would work.
Hmm...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 09, 2009, 02:05:25 AM
Okay, I'm still really confused over the map... or rather, what the enemies are. So all eight of the baddies are dire wolves? But half of them are casters? so some of the wolves are druids (I'm guessing wildshaped) with dire wolf animal companions... ???

p.s. I updated the map, hope I got it right this time
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 09, 2009, 02:23:24 AM
Yeah, I'll metagame a bit and tell you what they are, they are 4 druids with direwolf animal companions. 
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 09, 2009, 02:45:26 AM
LingLing has true seeing correct? He should be able to see which ones are the druids.

In any event guys, don't kill off the southmost wolves ones just yet, though if the numbers just roll that way no tears will be lost. If we're able, take them to the negatives and threaten death (hold action?) unless the others stand down (Mr. Oppressor, I'm looking at you).
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 09, 2009, 11:04:23 AM
LingLing has true seeing correct? He should be able to see which ones are the druids.

In any event guys, don't kill off the southmost wolves ones just yet, though if the numbers just roll that way no tears will be lost. If we're able, take them to the negatives and threaten death (hold action?) unless the others stand down (Mr. Oppressor, I'm looking at you).
I'm sorry I'm misunderstanding you I think.
You want me to... interrogate the prisoners after we capture a few? Well I am uniquely skilled at that as a pc Basically I have a "threaten death" class ability from zhentarim fighter, yeah.
Or are you just saying: Stand down don't kill everyone? Actually the whole "Opressor" thing is actually about getting people scared enough to tell all they know so, well, thats why I'm here.
I'm still figuring out the map though, two of the creatures are dead right? You have mage slayer yeah? You're strikes will just turn off wildshape if I'm not mistaken. Having them be medium will be much more intimidating numerically.
Having my character play the "bad cop" and Beyden Barely restrain him should be a well played out meme between them by now. I'm sure everyone would have thier roles, in and out of combat. My character is just playing the slavering madman cause thats what people expect when they see the "big guy" when really his thing is he's calculatingly brutal essentially "the Lancer" from the tv tropes thread. 

  In anycase once I figure out the map I we can charge (if terrain allows)  ??? and try and keep one alive or barely alive (i'll try to turn the blow and deal non-lethal to one of them or would you like to?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 09, 2009, 12:14:21 PM
I don't think Mage Slayer disrupts Wild Shape, or is that not what you're saying?

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 09, 2009, 03:17:32 PM
Alastar, can you tell us which wolves are enlarged? The "three frontmost" ones doesn't really specify.

Also, wouldn't being huge make it difficult for the wolves to move through the forest?

Tylunth is down; what square is he in?

In any event guys, don't kill off the southmost wolves ones just yet, though if the numbers just roll that way no tears will be lost. If we're able, take them to the negatives and threaten death (hold action?) unless the others stand down (Mr. Oppressor, I'm looking at you).
I'm sorry I'm misunderstanding you I think.
You want me to... interrogate the prisoners after we capture a few? Well I am uniquely skilled at that as a pc Basically I have a "threaten death" class ability from zhentarim fighter, yeah.
Or are you just saying: Stand down don't kill everyone? Actually the whole "Opressor" thing is actually about getting people scared enough to tell all they know so, well, thats why I'm here.
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Well, I was hoping that we could have taken the two south wolves into the negatives, then hold action and threaten to kill them unless the others stood down. But they're dead now, so that's kind of moot.

At this point, assuming we all survive, taking one of the druid's prisoner and playing "good cop, bad cop" is definitely a plan.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 09, 2009, 08:38:02 PM
Alright, surreal, if you could be so kind as to modify your map (and show me how you did it afterwards please :)) in the following way:

-Remove the two wolves from the bottom, and place ling-ling in his appropriate spot: M2
-Remove the closest of the two northern wolves
-Expand the wolves from the east and west that are closest to you (C9 and Q9) to Huge
-Place tylunth in square I8(He's prone)
-Place Nym (He's large I think) with his upermost left corner (of his 4 squares) in square J8
-Place Beyden  in square J6

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho February 09, 2009, 10:34:16 PM
Seems like we are going to have issues without healing items, when people throw around this kind of damage.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 09, 2009, 10:43:01 PM
I think tylunth has martial spirit.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho February 10, 2009, 12:01:53 AM
Let's hope he gets to use it.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 10, 2009, 07:30:13 AM
Just beat up that angry squirrel :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 10, 2009, 12:03:03 PM
I... I'm trying not to get angry here. Seriously.  :mad

There are some issues about the order of things that have occurred.
I'm gonna check the combat thread and sort this  :censored out.


: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 10, 2009, 01:05:33 PM
I explained in the combat thread, sorry if it's all a jumble, but the way i saw it, since none of you picked an actual square, i picked one for you and you were in the northernmost square in my head.  MAking you the most likely target for the wolf.

Explain to me the whol chain of things, with specific targets in it, like, I am gonna target the northern animal companion with my intimidate as an immediate, here is my roll: (36)  HE can roll the saving throw, if he fails he is shaken, frightened, panicked, cause now i have no freaking idea what your thing is doing, and I'm Away from books most of the time, so i don't really have time to check.  If you detail the whole thing we'll sort things out.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 10, 2009, 01:23:33 PM
I explained in the combat thread, sorry if it's all a jumble, but the way i saw it, since none of you picked an actual square, i picked one for you and you were in the northernmost square in my head.  MAking you the most likely target for the wolf.

Explain to me the whol chain of things, with specific targets in it, like, I am gonna target the northern animal companion with my intimidate as an immediate, here is my roll: (36)  HE can roll the saving throw, if he fails he is shaken, frightened, panicked, cause now i have no freaking idea what your thing is doing, and I'm Away from books most of the time, so i don't really have time to check.  If you detail the whole thing we'll sort things out.
Just got this. I'll try to do that. Sorry bout the nerdrage.  :(
I've just come down from a crazy night at work and some test before that and coming back to my pc getting slammed around "wrongfully" was kinda *bleah* if you know what I mean.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 10, 2009, 01:35:04 PM
totally, happens to me a lot
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic February 10, 2009, 06:11:27 PM
Damn.  I'm gonna have to burn a LOT of Wildshape uses to recover from this.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho February 10, 2009, 09:14:26 PM
Alastar, would you let me take a swift action in place of a move action? In case it matters what I would be doing, I have the ability to get up from prone as a swift action, thanks to the boots of agile landing effect I have on my collar, and I also want to change stances. Would I be allowed to use two swift actions and a standard action in one round?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 10, 2009, 09:24:47 PM
I will allow it, in this instance yes.

First f**ker who says something about casting 2 swift spells in teh same round is getting a slap, k?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho February 10, 2009, 10:01:21 PM
You got it.

edit: just realized that what I put as another example of what I wouldn't do would work without the second swift action, nevermind.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 11, 2009, 03:04:28 PM
I think I'll just shoot both the druid and wolf now instead of doing the ready-action. It's of greater tactical value to the party. (I've edited my post accordingly) Unless of course the enemies actually stand down like I asked them to...


In the future guys, could we please keep the OOC stuff to this thread, or maybe start a separate ooc thread for each battle? When too much chatter happens in the battle thread, it becomes difficult to follow what's happening.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 11, 2009, 03:08:03 PM
OOC: Sounds like a plan :)

@Alastar, I won't have the time to post tomorrow, so the soonest I can post my actions is friday morning (GMT+1). Is that okay or would you like me to post them tonight to keep things going?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 11, 2009, 04:13:10 PM
OOC: Sounds like a plan :)

@Alastar, I won't have the time to post tomorrow, so the soonest I can post my actions is friday morning (GMT+1). Is that okay or would you like me to post them tonight to keep things going?
I find its best to post them in advance and in detail. Lest you come back to... something bad  :lol
Nah I kid I kid but. I mean in the off chance that something comes up then have the "emergency actions"
on standby at least.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 12, 2009, 12:04:04 PM
Wek'tcha, are your attacks considered magical?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 12, 2009, 12:10:48 PM
Ow, right, dunno about Wek'tcha, but my attacks are considered magical :D
Dunno if I forgot to mention that or not :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 12, 2009, 08:06:51 PM
I know, I checked for you, but it's not that clear on Wek'tcha's sheet.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 12, 2009, 08:18:33 PM
My claws are magic and silver, for the record. Unarmed strike is non-magical.

And hey guys. The hero always arrives late.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 12, 2009, 08:38:09 PM
I kill druid, I save world, I am SUPAHIRO!!!

And yeah, only the wolves have DR not the druids.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho February 12, 2009, 11:29:57 PM
Wek'tcha, are your attacks considered magical?
My unarmed attacks are magical, as is one of my claw attacks, so all of the ones I use in a full attack are magical. I actually have been using the wrong damage, I'll just fix it next time I attack, I was selling myself short.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic February 13, 2009, 12:05:25 AM
I might be incommunicado until about Wednesday.  My father had to go in for surgery abruptly to have his gall bladder removed, and I'll be going downstate to help him out while he recovers.

I'll try to post my attacks on the fight thread tomorrow, but things are going to be a little hectic.  If I can't, would it be possible to just assume that I pound on the nearest target?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 13, 2009, 02:36:43 AM
I hope he recovers quickly. Godspeed.

[spoiler]Pun-pun-speed?[/spoiler]
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 13, 2009, 03:37:44 AM
: Surreal
[spoiler]Pun-pun-speed?[/spoiler]

I'll send Chuck over to help if you want.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 16, 2009, 03:12:26 PM
Splinterbolt has a x3 crit? (one of them actually missed)

Anyways, I get my DR twice, so that's 16 less damage.
On the other side of things I get vicious damage to myself on the AoO:
1d6=6 (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/1942272/)

Alright. I took 54 damage on it's turn. It's good.

Edit: those were actually ranged attacks, weren't they? My fault for not briefing you, but my ring of entropic deflection(MIC p.123) activated when I charged. I have the synergy from having a speed boosting magic item(boots of springing and striding) so it's a 50% miss chance vs. ranged attacks for 1 round if I move 10 feet.
Wolverine now hits the ring as a free action to turn it on for my forgetting. ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 16, 2009, 04:02:28 PM
Minor Nerd Nitpick: It's 'Striding and Springing', not 'Springing and Striding' :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 16, 2009, 04:33:48 PM
Yeah, i used the old splinterbolt on the wizard website, it's 18-20 x3.  If it's a hassle i can check the spell compendium one when i get home, and modify the damage accordingly.

Sorry for forgeting DR, and at least, now i know you have that ring ! :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 16, 2009, 05:19:32 PM
p.s. so are we going to get a chance to interrogate these druids?
P.S: I'm not opposed to the idea, if that was a question for me

Oh goody. I have lots of pent up vday angst and need to vent steam.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 16, 2009, 05:23:37 PM
Probably one of the first things I wanna get once we get enough money/crystals to get new gear/upgrade our existing gear is that ring :)

EDIT: V-day went that bad, Surreal?
I didn't even spend any attention on it this year, just realized I missed it when you just posted about it...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 16, 2009, 05:52:48 PM
Nothing too huge or emotastic, but just the sheer number of girl related things in these past two weeks. Got double ditched by a couple friends of mine for dinner a few days ago, after I'd made reservations and drove over to pick them up, only to have their work mate tell me they ditched without any explanation. The girl I've been casually dating for the past month or so has stopped responding to messages (the last text reply was "sorry I'm busy, will call you next week"). A friend of mine who I've had a crush on for ages (and we've been romantically involved in the past) and recently became single, I tried asking her out but she gave me the "you're a nice guy but..." and the "sorry, I'm just not ready to date so soon", and then about a week later she was with a new guy and was all "oh, I didn't really expect it to happen". And there's the friend of a friend visiting from out of town who I was flirting with, and on vday she kissed me, then almost starts crying and admits that she has a bf. I have no desire to be the other man again. Four times is enough :banghead

Bah, there's at least two more stories, but they can't be summed up concisely.

And to top it all off my knee injuries are flaring up again and it's actually becoming hard to walk at times now, which is doubly frustrating because I'm also a dance instructor and dancing is one of my outlets, so I can't even let off steam that way now.

Bah.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 16, 2009, 06:33:24 PM
Sorry to hear that, buddy...

I'm currently continueing my streak of falling in love with emotionally or psychically troubled girls...
I hope I learn after my third strike, I know emotions can't be 'learned', bust still...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 16, 2009, 07:30:46 PM
Meh, just being an emotard right now. Let me cripple some druids and I'll be fine :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 16, 2009, 07:47:44 PM
Meh, just being an emotard right now. Let me cripple some druids and I'll be fine :D
NO! No. Its been like that for me also... damn. Damn, I'm really glad to know you guys.
 :D At least I know this b.s. is universal and I"M not the one that's screwed up.
(These dames are batty.) *humphrey bogart voice.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 16, 2009, 08:11:05 PM
Aye, womenz are nuts. We should just star a huge gay e-orgy all together...(obviously joking here :P)


: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 16, 2009, 08:12:47 PM
Seriously though, I know I'm not entirely 'normal' or following the generally accepted norm either, but I know plenty of girls who are plenty batshit as well...

Worst thing is I tend to fall for those kinda girls...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 16, 2009, 08:19:55 PM
I couldn,t agree more with all you just said.  Most girls I know, or dated, are batshit crazy (except the cheerleader i dated, she was pretty normal, althought superficial).

I really feel what you went throught surreal, happened to me a lot in the past, it sucks!  I think I'll make this druid a squeeler... :P

That being said... i spent st-val's with two of my female friends, and had a generally good time.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 16, 2009, 08:28:51 PM
Hey... take a look at my new combo over a the min/max boards if you get a chance? Think that works?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 16, 2009, 08:34:53 PM
I'll get back to you on that once I'm sober again, g'night :)

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 16, 2009, 08:54:19 PM
Since we're on the subject, I'll share my worst burn story which incidentally also happened on a Valentine's day. It was a couple years ago at university, with a girl that I'd known for a while (I was actually her TA the first time I met her). It was not uncommon for us to always stop and chat in the hallways, even for an hour or so, and we were always mildly flirty with each other. On this particular day we wound up talking for over three hours. She asked me if I was doing anything with my gf that day, I said I was single. Enter the whole "really? but you're such a nice guy, a girl would be lucky to have a guy like you" speech. We chat some more, I use a similar line of questioning and discover that she's recently become single as well. Cue some more flattery, some joking about, I have my arm around her at one point and she leans against me while giggling, which I assume is a good sign.

Despite the signs, I'm inherently wary (and I'll admit, very very stupid and insecure around cute girls). When it seems like it's about time to part ways, she sighs and says "I really wish I had plans tonight..." So to me this sounds like an obvious clue right? I say "well, I think we've both missed our dinner times by now [it was about 8pm now]. How about we go to [the restaurant on campus] and get some food?" Both of our stomachs had gurgled while talking, and I figured the campus restaurant was a nice no-pressure no-strings kind of place to go.

She just looks at me with this look of shock, then blurts out "oh... I didn't mean with you."
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 16, 2009, 09:27:53 PM
......


some girls deserve to be slapped

real hard!

stupid chivalry preventing us from doing it.

Seriously thought, that's hard!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 17, 2009, 11:05:24 AM
Slapped?
That story?
Murdered. . .
...
 :o "Wait! oh... I didn't mean by me!"
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 17, 2009, 12:03:21 PM
BURN!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 17, 2009, 01:29:22 PM
Okay, that officially sucks, and not in a good way...



On a more upbeat note: Energy Drain, booyah!!! :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 18, 2009, 01:24:14 PM
Midnight: Sorry for speaking as Tylunth out of character. I was just adding random dialogue to people. Maybe I'll transfer the "boss" thing to LingLing (hmm, little furry guy saying "hey boss, da plane, da plane!") :D

Bowen: I don't think I saw the towel scene in 24. Care to elaborate?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 18, 2009, 02:25:50 PM
I hate you :P

I've only seen a couple of episodes, but from what I remember it had Jack Bauer interrogate someone, and threatening to stuff a rolled up towel down his throat, including descriptions of how it would bring the lining/coating/outer layer of his stomach and asophagus with it when he would pull it out afterwards...

Something like that anyway :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 18, 2009, 07:27:17 PM
Midnight: Sorry for speaking as Tylunth out of character. I was just adding random dialogue to people. Maybe I'll transfer the "boss" thing to LingLing (hmm, little furry guy saying "hey boss, da plane, da plane!") :D

Bowen: I don't think I saw the towel scene in 24. Care to elaborate?
Dude! Thats so funny! In my head thats the exact voice I heard tylunth speking in for a sec! LOL
No hard feelings. . . I don't mind the randome dialouge really if there needs to be filler I just want it to be consistent with the pc.
Wisecraking .... and charming... but insane and needlessly brutal... like Uhmm.. Like a "venom" Matt Gorgan not eddie brock.
LOL
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 18, 2009, 07:59:41 PM
So guys, what have we got in terms of healing capabilities in the party?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 18, 2009, 09:34:32 PM
Logan's explanation is up!

Sorry I can't heal others, but I also don't drain healing from others, so no resource drain on my part.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic February 19, 2009, 12:02:17 AM
Sorry I can't heal others, but I also don't drain healing from others, so no resource drain on my part.

Likewise.  At the moment, patching myself up eats a lot of Wildshape attempts; another two levels, and that problem goes away.

I designed Nym to be as self-sufficient as possible.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 19, 2009, 06:01:45 AM
No healing whatsoever on my part...
Ling Ling was mostly designed as a combat scout who can rely on stealth to avoid being targeted. That is so coming back to bite me in the ass...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 19, 2009, 11:03:10 AM
Not till next level at which point I get that level of crusader. I kept meaning to make Tylunth a Crusader but ... well you know life. Instead of Barbarian1/fighter 9 He should probbably Brb1/Ftr1/Crusader8 I was just trying to sqeeze so much in there.
.... I could make the druid heal us. . . No seriously.
 Someone scared enough will beg out. . .
intimidate him to friendly, then Diplomacy check of 1, to  make him helpful. Helpful people will heal you.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 19, 2009, 01:34:30 PM
Let's hope he's got a Wand of Mass Lesser Vigor or something :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 19, 2009, 04:16:38 PM
someone with spellcraft needs to make him use his spontaneous casting to summon a unicorn.
Logan, of course, doesn't care. But if you're going to get a druid to heal you, do it right. ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 19, 2009, 06:32:31 PM
I think I might have a trick up my sleeve, just need your characters' help ingame to help me drag those corpses on a pile :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 19, 2009, 08:16:23 PM
someone with spellcraft needs to make him use his spontaneous casting to summon a unicorn.
Logan, of course, doesn't care. But if you're going to get a druid to heal you, do it right. ;)
Bravo....  :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 20, 2009, 01:46:34 AM
I actually have some unspent cash because I never got around to filling out all my gear. Would retconning in some curing wands be out of place? (or for that matter, would wands even be permissible given that they're magic?)

Alastar, I asked earlier but never got an answer for Cooper. Did we leave him behind, or is he flying somewhere overhead? I could see having him fly around overhead, although perhaps scouting isn't much good through all the heavy trees.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 20, 2009, 06:32:02 PM
Witch Hunter needs to explain to Logan before he accuses Witch Hunter of being a Witch. ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 20, 2009, 06:44:45 PM
It's not magic.
At least not Witch magic :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 23, 2009, 03:37:29 PM
Sorry Tylunth. Logan's got a personal stake in this and I can't imagine him hanging off to the side when he needs to locate a comrade.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 23, 2009, 04:35:14 PM
Wow, even more 'bad cops', poor guy is really gonna be confused now :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 23, 2009, 04:43:34 PM
Hahahaha, yeah, i was expecting a good cop bad cop thing, and i thought beyden was supposed to be the good cop.

Then he starts with the hook and shit and I'm like, wait, what??  Isn't he the good cop?!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 23, 2009, 04:55:29 PM
Yeah, that reaction by the goblin literally had me fall of my chair :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 23, 2009, 05:29:51 PM
I need a translator for this. And we do have a tracker, right? So I can start breaking this guy's body to pieces?
I don't do good cop/bad cop: Logan isn't a cop at all.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 23, 2009, 05:45:38 PM
Alastar, level 14, seriously? :P

Also, Logan has a +4 on his Intimidate due to being a size category larger IIRC...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 23, 2009, 06:13:57 PM
Also, Logan has a +4 on his Intimidate due to being a size category larger IIRC...

Ah thanks. I forgot about that since I'm medium sized...but he's small, so I AM larger. :D

(you can tell how often I use Intimidate...not very.)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 23, 2009, 08:20:00 PM
It's not level, it's level +wisdom+whatever bonuses agaisn't fear he has (he has some :))

He's a druid, he has good wisdom.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 23, 2009, 08:29:20 PM
I think I'm still technically the good cop. The fishhook is more for utility than intimidation.
- hook & weight through the tongue so he can speak but not clearly enough to cast spells, also to control him if he tries to shrink
- hands broken, so can't cast spells with somatic components, and limits wildshape mobility options
- canvas around tree so he can't tree stride
- nailed to the tree, so even if he wildshapes he's still stuck to the tree
- nailed hanging above the ground, so no earth glide tricks either
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 23, 2009, 08:50:34 PM
Let's switch you from ''good cop'' to ''pragmatic cop'' then :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic February 23, 2009, 09:11:20 PM
And we do have a tracker, right?


You do have a tracker, right.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 24, 2009, 12:05:55 PM
I'll be out of town tomorrow and thursday, so I won't be able to post until friday.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 24, 2009, 08:46:43 PM
I think we're all waiting for tylunth to work his magic on that goblin :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw February 25, 2009, 06:59:42 AM
Wait, 'magic'? Tylunth is a witch! Burn the heretic!


:P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v February 25, 2009, 10:39:42 AM
Wait, 'magic'? Tylunth is a witch! Burn the heretic!


:P
A WITCH! BURN THE W...! Wait, What? LOL
Though honestly I didn't realize I'd managed such a grand accounting for myself! LOL.
By the end of the day. I'll think of something appropriate.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal February 28, 2009, 05:16:01 AM
So where's Tylunth? Can we just roll his intimidate check for him?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 28, 2009, 11:55:11 AM
yeah, that would be a good idea at that point, surreal, can you do it, your better at impersonating tylunth then me, and also you know what questions you guys wanna ask.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 02, 2009, 04:12:15 AM
Okay, I'm not going to go into the minutiae of Tylunth's friendly conversation, but can we just assume that he will get all the questions out during the course of it?

1) why have they been attacking the villagers?
2) why did they capture their men?
3) where is their camp?
4) any other strategic information?

Is there anything else that we should ask?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v March 03, 2009, 10:45:24 AM
Look.
I apologize about the abscence... Several bad things have befallen me recently.
The most forthwith of which being my younger brother is going into open heart surgery.
Looks bad bout 60/40 chance the docs. Say, other things too, sprained my ankle might miss
my fighting tourney. So... Surreal if you can control Tylunth for a bit, I'd be grateful. Uhm
I miss playing but I'm not *sigh* I'm really kinda mentally exhausted, and stretched thin right this sec.
Though if you want me out I completely understand that too. Just bear with me for bit and soon as things get settle, I'll be back here fully.
Your friend and adventuring companion.
-Midnight_v
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 03, 2009, 11:02:06 AM
Take care, M_v, best of luck and hope to have you back soon :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar March 03, 2009, 12:31:59 PM
No problem, take a break ! :)

Hope things go better :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 03, 2009, 02:40:03 PM
Best wishes and prayers to you and your brother Midnight.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 03, 2009, 02:47:32 PM
If your brother plays D&D, remind him that he has Action Points he hasn't used yet. It's just a matter of believing in a positive outcome.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 04, 2009, 12:05:02 PM
Don't expect much from me for now, my computer officially died, so I'm restricted to uni for any computer stuff whatsoever...

Sonuvabitch *loads-and-loads-of-swearing*
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar March 04, 2009, 08:00:01 PM
We're kind of in a dead zone for the storyline, so instead of making everyone write stuff they kinda don't wanna write, we'll take a mid-chapter interlude, and I'll listen to comments and suggestions here.  Like I said, my games are interactive games, and I want the players to have fun, regardless of what I'm doing, so speak up and say it if there's something wrong, or something that could be done better.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 05, 2009, 04:36:34 AM
I should be back by wednesday at the latest (you know, new PC and all that...)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 06, 2009, 03:28:31 AM
So here's the two options I see at the moment:
1a) kill the goblin
1b) leave him to the wolves (so to speak)
1c) get him to take us to his camp

then

2a) kill everyone, retrieve our men
2b) ask them to return our men to us, and a border will be set to prevent further incidents (blah blah we wish no further bloodshed, make some veiled threats to bring the full force of the Witch Hunters upon them if they cross the line, the settlers in return will stay on their side, etc)
2c) kill some of them, then do 2b
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 09, 2009, 02:51:48 PM
"Ling Ling into battle go!"


I'm back :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 12, 2009, 01:46:06 AM
I vote to skip the dragon for now. Only half the party is healed up at the moment.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 12, 2009, 07:56:08 AM
Agreed.

Especially since it might actually be a Huge Dragon.
We'd be so humped...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 14, 2009, 03:08:27 AM
And Green. Hide and Move Silently ranks. O.O
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 16, 2009, 07:49:37 PM
Does everyone but Logan speak Goblin? No one so far has really bothered to translate...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 17, 2009, 07:40:08 AM
Ling Ling does, but he's not much of an interrogator, so he just sits there and listens :) I can give you the translations through my Telepathy if you want?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 17, 2009, 02:17:21 PM
That works. Then I can do this without 1)metagaming or 2)having Logan kill the goblin for speaking gibberish and not giving us any useful information.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 17, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
Hooray for Telepathy :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho March 20, 2009, 07:41:06 PM
And Green. Hide and Move Silently ranks. O.O
I really want to know just how stealthy a huge dragon could be. Holding an uprooted tree in front of itself, horns sticking out either side, thinking "You can't see me, you can't see me."

Sorry I've been so erratic, I've been on spring break, and keep forgetting to post.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 20, 2009, 07:46:15 PM
It lives in a forest and it's green. Don't ask me how, but apparently that's good enough.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 20, 2009, 07:48:23 PM
Only advantage we might have it would have trouble flying if the entire forest is so dense as the area we battled in with the Druids.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 25, 2009, 01:33:25 PM
People can start getting healed now. :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar March 25, 2009, 03:12:36 PM
You haven't agreed to the deal .

Or said no.

The goblin looks at you in a weird demanding way.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 25, 2009, 03:19:33 PM
So what is our plan, guys? Do we accept the deal or do we kill the goblin.

Also, what about the Dragon? Leave it be for now or do we hunt?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 25, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
I figured releasing him was an agreement to the deal.

I think philosophically, accepting healing magic isn't quite right... but considering that it was their magic that harmed us in the first place, this is just to make up the balance. Who knows, maybe we'll kill him afterwards.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 25, 2009, 04:26:54 PM
I think you guys should heal up and let the guy go. I don't want any liabilities following me around.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 25, 2009, 04:27:52 PM
Who's to say he won't come back for revenge?

Also, can he even heal us at the moment, with his mangled hands?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 25, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
Also, can he even heal us at the moment, with his mangled hands?

Fair enough. Though don't expect Logan to realize that. I'll leave the call up to fearless leader. :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho March 26, 2009, 05:06:05 AM
So now what? Return to the village and heal up? If there are healers to pay in the village, we could heal at 40 HP/day.

Next time we capture a druid, can we find some more easily removed way of preventing him from using magic? It seems like the quickest way for a squad of wounded witch hunters to get back on their feet is to force a prisoner mage to heal them, it probably isn't uncommon, regardless of whether it is within regs.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic March 26, 2009, 10:57:43 PM
Hrm.  I'll be honest, guys: I see some party conflict developing fairly soon.  Nym doesn't have a big problem killing things that are attacking him, but the torture bothers him more than a little--not to mention the hypocrisy of hunting down shapeshifters for their evil magic when he's one himself.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar March 26, 2009, 11:15:10 PM
The irony wasn't lost on me :)

Well, maybe you guys can settle this OOC, or settle this in character, i don't care.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 27, 2009, 01:32:42 AM
We never did fully define (and it would be impossibly to do so) what is "acceptable" in terms of magic use, and any kind of "hate" group is almost hypocritical by definition. My viewpoint is that we're just going by willful ignorance. We can use it because we're the "good guys" on our mission to rid to world of "evil". We don't think about it, and we kill anybody who questions us.

p.s. and I didn't technically kill the goblin per se. We'll just deliberately leave it as a gray area (and besides, Alastar can always bring that poor druid back later somehow... maybe he shifted into a bird, though then he might have to deal with Cooper in another manner :D).
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v March 27, 2009, 02:15:55 AM
We never did fully define (and it would be impossibly to do so) what is "acceptable" in terms of magic use, and any kind of "hate" group is almost hypocritical by definition. My viewpoint is that we're just going by willful ignorance. We can use it because we're the "good guys" on our mission to rid to world of "evil". We don't think about it, and we kill anybody who questions us.

p.s. and I didn't technically kill the goblin per se. We'll just deliberately leave it as a gray area (and besides, Alastar can always bring that poor druid back later somehow... maybe he shifted into a bird, though then he might have to deal with Cooper in another manner :D).
I'm glad I waited to see what you had to say.
In anycase... tylunth isn't a "good guy" perse but is definately on the side of "Team Good" for the purpose of eliminating Arcane spellcasters for him its a "divine" (for lack of a better term) mission. Noting of course that his thing is with Arcane spellcasters, the elder evils he serves are largely immune to divine powers so them getting killed or not is irrelavant. Though he sees the rise of the harren daen'kar as the best means to achive the end of an Arcane casterless world in a couple hundred years or so when he thinks Elder evils will come a knocking.
All that being said. He does feel a certain way about the party members.
Beyden Vo: Beyden is the leader, and unexpectedly a good one, he thought Beyden was going to be too weak to lead at first, but is learning Beyden is not just some trumped up "company man" or bureacrat but is shocked by his pragmaticism, but still gives Beyden no end of grief (verbally at least).
Ling Ling: Tylunth likes Ling Ling a lot, if asked he'd say the little one is one of his best friends. Largely his initial like of Ling Ling is because it reminds him of the things coming to "purge" the world.
Nym: Tylunth has gave up his humanity to survive and is becoming a monster, Nym is a "Monster" who is gaining his humanity, so its like looking in a fun house mirror to him. Distrubing mostly, but he can't help but look be impressed with Nyms combat ability.
Wek'tcha: Understands Wek'tcha, cause he feels just as out of place and akward as he does some times. Tylunth smilesand laughs a lot and is good a parties as a cover but secretly most of the humor is wasted on him.
Logan: It's... it's the fuckin wolverine... and who DOESN"T like Wolverine? LOL Thats just too awesome. LOL
..............................
  So most of the party conflict will arise from when one of us thinks things have gone to far or questions from time to time "What the hell am I doing with these guys?" but you know assuming we actually KNOW each other and have adventured for awhile I'm sure at least some of these things have come up before.

I really like this though:
we're the "good guys" on our mission to rid the world of "evil".  We don't think about it, and we kill anybody who questions us.
  Or at least we don't question it till much later after the mission is already done. Thats so very real life. So many ideologies actually funtion that way. Amazing.

I never though of us as a "hate" group though. Damn.  :(
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 27, 2009, 04:30:35 AM
I almost Godwin'd the game...  :twitch
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v March 27, 2009, 05:16:29 AM
I almost Godwin'd the game...  :twitch
:lmao
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 27, 2009, 05:36:55 AM
You think I should reflavor my masterwork footwear to jackboots? :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic March 27, 2009, 10:02:29 AM
For Nym, on some level, it's all about "Either I'm with them or I'm against them, and there are a LOT of them, and they seem to be winning."

He's saving his hide by joining the other team, and he's aware of that, and on some level, he really doesn't like himself for the cowardice that entails.

He might...MIGHT...be about to skirt the edges of insubordination, based on the answers to the following questions:

1. Can Beyden actually communicate with Cooper?
2. There was never actually an explicit order given concerning the fate of the goblin, correct?  Beyden never actually said he wants the goblin eliminated?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 27, 2009, 12:27:19 PM
As far as I can tell:
1) Hey can give basic commands, like those the Handle Animal skill allows.
2) There wasn't, that's up to Alastar and how he decides Cooper acts...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar March 27, 2009, 01:59:02 PM
The druid, having wild empathy up the wazoo and still being able to wild shape, will probably escape, and cooper will probly not pursue too far, goblins have a smell that spells danger for most animals.

And yes, orders are given throught handle animal, althought i will allow orders to be passed throught the whistle.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 27, 2009, 02:08:20 PM
#1
As a Steelwing, Cooper has an Int of 6. This should be sufficient for normal communication (he's only a couple points below Logan afterall :P) and the encounter section in the book (MM5) even has a part where the PCs could work in cooperation with Steelwings.

In game terms, I've been going by the assumption that Cooper can understand verbal commands, but have been glossing over that simply by utilizing little whistles and gestures that have an implied understanding between the two, similar to how Beyden can direct the party due to their years of practice, training and familiarity. In essence, I treat Cooper like a (slightly less prominent though perhaps slightly more promiscuous) party member.

#2
No, I did not order the Goblin eliminated. I've left it deliberately open ended for either you guys or Alastar to play with, though there is still a hungry Cooper to contend with. You could always distract her by turning into a bird again  :lmao


edit for the ninja:
Will wildshaping fix his broken hands and feet? Otherwise he won't be going very far.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic March 27, 2009, 02:31:26 PM
Well, the key question as far as Nym's concerned isn't whether Cooper can understand you...it's whether you can understand Cooper. 

Plausible deniability, you understand...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 27, 2009, 04:03:37 PM
I'm perfectly fine with how you handled things in the game thread. Like I said, I keep things open ended for you guys to interact with.

Nym's magical/shapeshifting nature is something I had considered earlier as a possible point of conflict, but once again I toss it under willful ignorance. He helps us get the bad guys, and he's proven himself to us over many missions. So even though he may be a bit of a sympathizer, we have no reason to distrust him. Granted, somewhere down the line it will eventually come to surface again, but I think for the sake of keeping a relatively young game cohesive and moving forward, we'll just leave that to the wayside for the time being.

Does that sound good enough?

As a side not, Cooper could probably take on that dragon all by herself... but I think I sort of have a gentleman's agreement with Alastar not to throw the big bird into combat directly unless necessary. I mean, it's a CR 14 bird afterall, even though she did cost a big chunk of my WBL (whoo boy that sentence sounds funny taken out of context).
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v March 27, 2009, 04:15:09 PM
I have a confession... I dont' know what the hell a Cooper is. I didn't buy MM5.

 I keep seeing that little efficiency car when ever you guys say that (especially since we use it to ride). Terrifying all of out pouring out of the Mini-coooper like angry anti-magic clowns.
 So ... could you please give that thing a name? Also... I take it that its either ostrich like or Roc like? Which is it?
Man... :lol This is the best game ever.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 27, 2009, 04:24:03 PM
I think Cooper IS it's name.

And Caelic has triggered my Plot Card...I mean plot point.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v March 27, 2009, 04:28:28 PM
I think Cooper IS it's name.

And Caelic has triggered my Plot Card...I mean plot point.
Hmm... WeaponX?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 27, 2009, 04:33:28 PM
I fleshed out Logan's background before he joined combat. Let's just say there's certain intentional similarities to some other character's background.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v March 27, 2009, 04:40:47 PM
I fleshed out Logan's background before he joined combat. Let's just say there's certain intentional similarities to some other character's background.
  :clap  :lmao  :clap

Cool cool no more spoilers from me  ;) This is so much fun! I can't wait to see where this goes next.
Hey do you guys wanna kill the dragon?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 27, 2009, 06:12:36 PM
The bird is a Steelwing from MM5. Cooper is her name. Huge magical beast, speaks common, AC 28, 20% concealment due to feathers, 15 hd, fast healing 15, DR 15/adamantine, immune to cold, speed 50', flight 120', attacks 22/20/20/20/20 or ranged 21/21/21, anyone within 5' takes 5d6, special ranged (cone) attack for 15d6, I can make keen adamantine arrows from her feathers... a pretty beefy mount all things considered.

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar March 27, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
Yeah, with that on your side, the dragon would have a fair amount of problems.

But the gentleman's agreement is fine with me, also, I,d like to keep cooper as a deus ex machina backup, since i'm still trying to find where you guys are situated in the combat scale, like, not making monsters too strong or too weak.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 27, 2009, 07:39:54 PM
Wow, a Steelwing is even more awesome than I remember :D

Maybe I should get one of those for my Zhentarim Skymage, since a dragon would be kinda difficult in Eberron and might ruin some character plothooks...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v March 27, 2009, 10:36:28 PM
Wow, a Steelwing is even more awesome than I remember :D

Maybe I should get one of those for my Zhentarim Skymage, since a dragon would be kinda difficult in Eberron and might ruin some character plothooks...

I would think a Zhentarim Skymage would be kinda difficult in Ebberon?!  ???
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 28, 2009, 07:44:41 AM
The Zhentarim part would obviously be reflavored, maybe something to do with Arcanix or Karrnath :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 28, 2009, 02:50:55 PM
The Zhentarim part would obviously be reflavored, maybe something to do with Arcanix or Karrnath :)

Two words: Bone Dragon
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 28, 2009, 03:55:51 PM
No, no undead as actual PCs or 'cohorts'/mounts for me. Somehow the flavor just doesn't work for me...

Guess I'd better go with Arcanix, or perhaps an agent of the Chamber then :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic March 28, 2009, 04:07:27 PM
I fleshed out Logan's background before he joined combat. Let's just say there's certain intentional similarities to some other character's background.


Oh, great.  Do I have to be Deadpool?  :P :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 28, 2009, 04:23:31 PM
I fleshed out Logan's background before he joined combat. Let's just say there's certain intentional similarities to some other character's background.


Oh, great.  Do I have to be Deadpool?  :P :)
So I have to be Sabretooth??


:P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar March 28, 2009, 08:25:19 PM
Your way too small to be Sabertooth.

Nightcrawler thought...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 28, 2009, 09:48:04 PM
I fleshed out Logan's background before he joined combat. Let's just say there's certain intentional similarities to some other character's background.

Oh, great.  Do I have to be Deadpool?  :P :)

Nah. This isn't the Marvel Universe, so the other test subjects created by arcane experimentation need not be the same ones as in the Marvel comics.
As an optional twist, there's always a chance they didn't make you the way you are and were simply studying you.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic March 29, 2009, 04:39:37 PM
Your way too small to be Sabertooth.

I'm normally eight feet tall, with claws, fangs, and a vaguely feline appearance.  You sure about that? ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 29, 2009, 04:50:10 PM
Your way too small to be Sabertooth.

I'm normally eight feet tall, with claws, fangs, and a vaguely feline appearance.  You sure about that? ;)
I think he was talking about Ling Ling :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar March 29, 2009, 05:13:00 PM
He was :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar March 30, 2009, 05:44:00 PM
How's your brother Midnight?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 30, 2009, 05:46:06 PM
Yeah, I hope everything went well :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v March 30, 2009, 08:00:51 PM
  Well... he (along with my mom) decided to put off his surgery for as many months as possible.  :twitch despite what the doctors said.
  I have one of those families, where honestly it's always somekind of piss-poor logic being used. You basically there are families that have the black sheep? Well mine I'm the black sheep but its because I'm like "do the right thing" so they think I'm all uppity. So while he's still doing whatever it was he's doing before, I had to just say, "Okay, you want to listen to our crazy mom, instead of me + the doctors, then well I wash my hands of it." Theres no point in me stressing out wondering if you're gonna die when you're not willing to take all the needed steps.  It's all just so fucking stupid  :nonono

So... basically while it has yet to "all work out" I was able to drop that burden. I mean we're all adults you know he's what like 24 now. I mean it'd suck if he died dont' get me wrong... but once you've argued your point and done whatever else you can to push things in the right direction you've got to be able to say "Enough. This is not my responsibility". Frankly, once I said that. . . everything seemed to get better.

I appreciate you asking though, guys. Please forgive the mini-rant, its frustrating, somewhat still but, I'm getting to be at peace with it.
.................................................
Man... Nym does make a passable sabertooth. LOL.
Our squad is so badass.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar March 30, 2009, 08:53:36 PM
Indeed it is, glad to hear at least you're feeling better :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 31, 2009, 05:51:07 AM
Good to see you're doing okay :)

And yes, our squad is awesome :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho March 31, 2009, 07:51:17 AM
Wait wait wait, Nym isn't Sabretooth. Nym is a Skrull masquerading as Sabretooth.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 31, 2009, 07:56:00 AM
*headdesk*
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 05, 2009, 11:04:15 PM
As much as I love using tactics in these scenarios, Logan won't be giving advice that is beyond his intellect. This doesn't mean his advice will always be bad though. Just expect oversimplification and you guys filling in the many, many gaps. :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 06, 2009, 07:20:45 PM
I removed some of the older threads that were unused or unuseful.  I put them on a back up word document on my computer.  If for some reason you want the old threads, just pm me your email adress and i will email them to you, the whole thing is under a meg.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 08, 2009, 10:04:11 PM
Actually it's chlorine gas....  kinda harder to imitate :(

Love the plan thought!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho April 09, 2009, 04:07:20 AM
According to the SRD, it is just a cone of corrosive gas, not chlorine. Is it a variant I didn't notice?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 09, 2009, 07:10:36 AM
.....

well I'll be damned


no the chlorine gas is just an ad&d 2 leftover i think.

Corrosive gas then.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 09, 2009, 02:49:13 PM
Mmh, too bad I don't have access to Dissolving Spittle, that might have fooled some goblins...

: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 11, 2009, 08:51:08 AM
And a happy birthday to Alastar :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 11, 2009, 11:31:09 AM
thanks ^^

I'm still reading your thread on your ideas, i just have no npc to infere with, so I can't really act :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v April 11, 2009, 12:06:33 PM
And a happy birthday to Alastar :)
HAHAHA +1 and I'm late D'oh!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 11, 2009, 02:12:53 PM
Happy Birthday, Alastar.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic April 11, 2009, 03:57:39 PM
Happy boithday!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho April 12, 2009, 03:44:40 AM
Happy still-birthday-for-sixteen-minutes-where-I-am, Alastar.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 13, 2009, 01:55:26 AM
Happy still-birthday-for-sixteen-minutes-where-I-am, Alastar.

And Happy Easter for the next 5 minutes where I live.

And will the people with characters with 10+ Int start giving out good ideas. This is normally where I'd be giving awesome suggestions, but I'm going to stick within my character's mental capabilities on this one. My version of Wolverine prefers to think with his claws. :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal April 13, 2009, 05:42:04 AM
So, I'm guessing from the drawing that Cooper either wants to fight the dragon, or... mate with it?

The only other option I can think of at the moment is actually siding with the dragon. Either that or split the party, half sneaks in to find our men while the other half creates a diversion so the first half can get out.

From the point of PbP, I dislike situations that split up the party because it slows the pace (less players per "setting") and doubles the work for the DM.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 13, 2009, 05:50:22 AM
yeah, no splitting if possible.

It's actually a fucked up, badly drawn goblin....
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 13, 2009, 06:29:36 AM
Cooper wants to kill the goblins? Well, send in the big beastie then :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho April 13, 2009, 08:02:06 PM
Not so hasty, we still haven't discounted the mate with option.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 13, 2009, 09:34:54 PM
Hahahahaha, indeed.

Btw, i just thought it'd be funny if cooper showed his incredible 6 intel military tactics, this is in NO WAY a nudge from the DM.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 15, 2009, 08:14:13 PM
Congrats, almost a year now since we started talking about this, very glad of how it turned out so far, keep up the good work, i know you can take on those silly goblins.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal April 16, 2009, 04:38:24 AM
the faster option: Cooper attacks from one side and distracts the goblins, the rest of us "sneak" in, grab our men, kill everything along the way

the safe option: send in Nym and LingLing to scout out the camp, determine enemy numbers, identify the leaders, find our men, then proceed with the above

: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 16, 2009, 02:19:42 PM
I prefer the Safe option with accelerated dice rolling.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 16, 2009, 02:27:54 PM
I think the safe option sounds like the best plan, but like SDK said, we don't want to take too long with that IRL.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v April 16, 2009, 06:13:21 PM
I think the safe option sounds like the best plan, but like SDK said, we don't want to take too long with that IRL.
*sigh* +1
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 16, 2009, 08:47:00 PM
I'll do it ''skill challenge style'' if you choose that option.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic April 16, 2009, 09:16:59 PM
Safe option.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 17, 2009, 05:24:52 AM
Sounds good to me :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 17, 2009, 05:28:26 AM
As for the poison thing, could Nym turn into something with a poison attack so we can 'milk' him and later dump that poison in the goblinoid food and water supply?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v April 17, 2009, 10:28:07 AM
I personally refuse, to "milk" another man. You can have at though.
 ;)
As for the poison thing, could Nym turn into something with a poison attack so we can 'milk' him and later dump that poison in the goblinoid food and water supply?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic April 17, 2009, 01:58:51 PM
Err...not ENTIRELY sure I'm comfortable with being "milked," either. :)  The other problem is this: so far, we've been facing druids, right?

What ability do druids get at ninth level?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 17, 2009, 02:10:28 PM
I doubt they're all druids though, and at least we'd be able to take out or weaken the warriors.

As for the milking...:lmao
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal April 17, 2009, 02:32:10 PM
You know, we could probably scare half the encampment out if Nym just turned into a big skunk.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 17, 2009, 02:35:12 PM
Troglodyte could work as well...

Even Goblins have standards :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal April 17, 2009, 07:58:03 PM
Err...not ENTIRELY sure I'm comfortable with being "milked," either. :)  The other problem is this: so far, we've been facing druids, right?

What ability do druids get at ninth level?
I guess Nym could always milk himself... uh...

[spoiler]Nym returns from the woods, a pale look on his face, carrying a small jar containing a strange milky substance.

"Hey Nym, where'd you run off to?"

"I don't want to talk about it."

"But where'd that jar..."

"I said, I don't want to talk about it."

Somewhere, a bird caws jealously.
[/spoiler]
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v April 17, 2009, 09:18:25 PM
Err...not ENTIRELY sure I'm comfortable with being "milked," either. :)  The other problem is this: so far, we've been facing druids, right?

What ability do druids get at ninth level?
I guess Nym could always milk himself... uh...

[spoiler]Nym returns from the woods, a pale look on his face, carrying a small jar containing a strange milky substance.

"Hey Nym, where'd you run off to?"

"I don't want to talk about it."

"But where'd that jar..."

"I said, I don't want to talk about it."

Somewhere, a bird caws jealously.
[/spoiler]
:lmao :lmao :lmao
ohhh the ;laughter make it stop!!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 18, 2009, 08:30:51 AM
Epic! :lmao
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 18, 2009, 08:14:35 PM
A'ight guys, i'm back from the hospital, so i can focus a bit more on this.

I'll let you think some more stuff up, making poison would actually use the craft rule, but you can use some raw druidic essence from your last fight to make some poison.  Provided you have a couple of days to waste and some ranks in craft poisonmaking.

I'm still thinking up the details of the whole place, and how I'll run the ''skill challenge'' thing.

Any questions or other comments before i get into details?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 18, 2009, 08:38:26 PM
Hospital? Nothing serious I hope?

As for the game, I don't have any ranks, not sure about the other guys. Would we need it though if Nym just dumped some Wyvern poison or something in a bucket?

I'm not too keen on wasting several days and thereby giving the enemy time to prepare for our arrival though since they might suspect something is wrong if their druids don't return, so apart from using Nym to get some quick and easy poison I say fuck it and just proceed with our mission.

As for the Skill Challenge, not sure really, anything other than Spot/Listen vs. Hide/Move Silently opposed checks rolled a couple of times that you have in mind?


~Bowen
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 18, 2009, 08:48:29 PM
Open lock, disable device, search, and sl;eight of hand come into mind, but only for tasks other than  scouting.

As for hospital, it's pretty intense, but nothing life threatening.  I ripped my achile'S tendon, so i can't do any sport for a year now, as well as being unable to move for a month, cause of the cast, they had to get me into surgery to save my leg, but at least i'm young and healthy, so they COULD save my leg.

I'm ok now thought, i'll have more time in front of computer.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 18, 2009, 08:52:05 PM
How the hell did you pull that off?

As for the skills, I think me and Nym will just take the most direct path to our captured comrades, assuming we can find them, so just list what skills are necessary for that. Should minimize enemy encounters and any delays.

Anywho, I'm off to bed, will get back with more tomorrow.
Good luck with the leg :)


~Bowen
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 18, 2009, 08:58:08 PM
I got that playing badminton.

Worst badluck ever.

And kewl, Direct scouting it is, I,ll still draft the other things up.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 19, 2009, 06:43:11 PM
Ironic that your Achille's Tendon ends up being your Achille's heel.

I do feel for your loss, Alastar. No LARPing for you for a year (I saw one of your vids... you're a big crazy guy)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 19, 2009, 06:46:43 PM
Ironic that your Achille's Tendon ends up being your Achille's heel.

I do feel for your loss, Alastar. No LARPing for you for a year (I saw one of your vids... you're a big crazy guy)

I can actually do A BIT of LARPing, since I'm playing an elf necromancer this year and the last, so i can keep on doing that, it's less stressful, if i tell the other players to not hit me in melee, just gently tap me with their swords, and i'll fall.

And oh crap, i had no idea people watched those.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 19, 2009, 06:51:12 PM
And oh crap, i had no idea people watched those.

Well, I didn't watch the whole thing. Just wondered what you looked like.

Edit: I think at the time, you reminded me of a Viking.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v April 20, 2009, 10:54:38 AM
Alstar is a viking? Where can we see these vids?  :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 20, 2009, 11:08:10 AM
http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=beorn+fighting&emb=0&aq=f#
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v April 20, 2009, 11:24:44 AM
Yep... you're a big-un.
If I knew how to put music to things I'd post one of my BJJ vids.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 20, 2009, 12:13:29 PM
Was that Celine Dion?  :twitch
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 20, 2009, 01:38:02 PM
Yes it was ^^

She's from my part of canada :)

Everyone else got hardcore rock and metal music.

I got celine dion

AWesome.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 20, 2009, 01:39:50 PM
To each his own I guess :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 20, 2009, 03:18:08 PM
May 1st I'll refresh my memory on Wolverine and get even more in character. :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 20, 2009, 03:53:00 PM
Hehe, you do realize there are some serious differences between the movie and the comics (and their various continuities and retcons :P), right? :P

Still, I'm looking forward to it as well, should be a fun popcorn flick :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 20, 2009, 04:37:49 PM
Hehe, you do realize there are some serious differences between the movie and the comics (and their various continuities and retcons :P), right? :P

Yep. I'll check the Wiki afterwards and it should tell me what is different from the comics. I've only seen the TV X-Men (and the movies). If one of you has 100's of comics they want to send me(digital or not) to help my roleplay be more true to canon, I won't stop you. ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 20, 2009, 04:43:21 PM
Haha, I've only read some stuff, got a lot of stuff from wikis etc. as well :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 21, 2009, 03:58:11 PM
Remind me that one of these days I'm making a Warforged with a built-in lockpick. A possible variant would be a Warforged reflavored to cyborg with the flaw that in order to activate built-in equipment he must first say the words "Go Go Gadget".
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 21, 2009, 04:37:06 PM
Yeah, we really need a way to pull that of...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 21, 2009, 04:46:20 PM
I just edited some formatting in my sheet and I thought of something.

Could I use acid to melt away the locking mechanism? Heck, maybe Nym could even turn into something with an acid attack to melt stuff?

Just some random thoughts :0

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 21, 2009, 05:25:01 PM
Follow the rules for breaking items for this, but yeah, entirely possible.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 21, 2009, 05:32:07 PM
Would the 5 flasks of acid that I have be enough?
IIRC Acid does half damage? AFB right now...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 21, 2009, 06:57:22 PM
While acid is a good choice...

: SRD
Energy Attacks

Acid and sonic attacks deal damage to most objects just as they do to creatures; roll damage and apply it normally after a successful hit. Electricity and fire attacks deal half damage to most objects; divide the damage dealt by 2 before applying the hardness. Cold attacks deal one-quarter damage to most objects; divide the damage dealt by 4 before applying the hardness.

...you still have to worry about Hardness

: SRD
Hardness

Each object has hardness—a number that represents how well it resists damage. Whenever an object takes damage, subtract its hardness from the damage. Only damage in excess of its hardness is deducted from the object’s hit points

Iron/Steel has a Hardness of 10, so no go with the acid flasks.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 21, 2009, 06:58:39 PM
Hardness works on energy attacks as well? Bugger...

Using the flasks all at a time for 5d6 won't fly, will it? :P



: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 21, 2009, 07:01:25 PM
Yep. Ideally you'd want Mountain Hammer of 2-handed power attack for these things. On the second,you wouldn't want to miss the attack roll by 1...

Edit: or use my other thread idea.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 22, 2009, 06:30:03 AM
So, what is there in terms of critters with an acid attack?

I think that would be our best bet at the moment.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 22, 2009, 12:45:13 PM
He doesn't have any, that's what he's been trying to say i think.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 22, 2009, 12:52:05 PM
Nothing with an (Ex) Acid attack?

Swindlespitter maybe?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 22, 2009, 01:27:13 PM
the acid blinds, it doesn't do damage.

If he could cast the druid spell that turns poison into acid then maybe

but no spells....

ankheg?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal April 22, 2009, 02:37:51 PM
Viletooth Lizardfolk (Dragon Magic) have an acidic bite attack.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 22, 2009, 03:58:46 PM
*dingdingding*

We have a winner! :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 22, 2009, 04:01:22 PM
can the acid deal more than an hardness of 10?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 22, 2009, 04:16:34 PM
...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic April 22, 2009, 04:58:02 PM
Uhm...yeah.

Basic problem is that most humanoids and animals aren't known for spewing acid.  I get those forms next level...

Also: even if we can come up with an obscure critter that fits the bill, do I have the appropriate Knowledges (and skill level) to justify knowing about it?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal April 22, 2009, 04:59:30 PM
Depends if you apply the hardness separately vs the bite and acid. If he's using the bite as solo primary attack, then it does 1d4 + 1.5*Str + 1d6 acid

edit: viletooth lizardfolk are humanoids

edit 2: as for whether you'd have the requisite knowledge... well, that's the age old argument of whether a druid has knowledge of all animals that he can wildshape into. It's all fluff in the end, so that's up to you and Alastar.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 22, 2009, 05:04:19 PM
Problem is a Bite might make some noise, so you could just as well smash the lock with a high Strength form then, assuming it makes about as much noise as a regular weapon attack...

Also, I believe, since the acid is part of the regular bite attack, hardness is only applied once.



: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 22, 2009, 05:38:58 PM
Bite will make noise, but probly less then a strenght check.

alternatively, if you just wanna get by the hardness.... don't you have an adamantium kukri??

It would make as much noise as a bite, more or less, i think.

A regular knowledge 10 + creature's hitdice is sufficient for me (i'm not sure if it's 10 or 15 + hit dice thought...)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 22, 2009, 05:53:07 PM
Yeah, I have an Adamantine Kukri we can use if we need to, I was just looking for some more 'stealthy' options that won't alert all the gobs within 500 ft. ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal April 22, 2009, 06:39:13 PM
So one of you hack away, the other one make some noise (and party l like it's 1999!). Be a skunk and spray down their food and water, start a fire, start a fight between gobs, etc.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw April 22, 2009, 06:41:44 PM
A distraction might come in handy. Like you mentioned, a fight between gobs or something. Nym could masquerade as one of them and start something while I free Samoval and the others.

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic April 23, 2009, 06:33:38 PM
I think we might be making this harder than it needs to be.  Maybe the lock has more hardness than we care to deal with, but what's the door made out of?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 24, 2009, 06:48:38 PM
I'm waiting for you to decide the lock thing before telling you what happened.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic April 25, 2009, 01:58:55 PM
I can't decide what to do about the lock until I know what the door's made out of.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 25, 2009, 02:22:32 PM
True.

It is made out of Heavy Wood.  It has a hardness of 5.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho April 25, 2009, 11:56:43 PM
Sorry I haven't posted recently, I got a bit buried in schoolwork. I'll update Wek'tcha's character sheet as quickly as I can, and post up those skill checks.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal April 27, 2009, 01:58:19 AM
Erg, sorry I've been a little bit quiet as well. I've been house hunting the last little while and that's been eating up my time. I made a bid on a house today, but was outbid by 20k (ouch).

Also, I don't think I have any relevant skill checks that I can make (have I mentioned that despite being a ranger I have almost no applicable skills in that area?)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v April 29, 2009, 12:19:10 AM
Uhh... yeah... hiding as Tylunth will only get everyone caught. LOL
 But I'm gonna review the last couple pages and help where I can.
M_v
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 01, 2009, 10:22:00 AM
Alright, is there any questions or comments about the scouting mission.  I realise it's not described in the best way, so I appologise for this, i'm trying to make colorful descriptions and fit a little humor in there, and I assumed a lot of ations, so i appologise.

Also, midnight and surreal, don't forget to look at the Witch hunter update in organisations and religions.  They give some circumstance bonus that might be important for you two.

: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 01, 2009, 02:54:03 PM
Mmm...Dire Rat.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 01, 2009, 03:28:30 PM
Happy birthday SDK, hope you live another 60 years ^^
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 01, 2009, 04:57:59 PM
Happy birthday SDK, hope you live another 60 years ^^

You are mistaken. That's next month. Though I accept the longevity. ^^
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 01, 2009, 05:22:21 PM
Says april 30th on your profile.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 01, 2009, 05:39:29 PM
Says april 30th on your profile.

That's the day I registered at BG last year. Meaning this is the one year anniversary of the Exodus. An important event, but not my Birthday.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 01, 2009, 06:00:19 PM
Now i feel stupid...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 03, 2009, 12:04:35 PM
So like, are you guys waiting for me to do something?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 03, 2009, 12:40:08 PM
Whose line is it anyway?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 03, 2009, 12:44:32 PM
Well i told you the info about the place, so i guess it's surreal, but he's not posting much, so i dunno, anyone willing to step forth.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic May 03, 2009, 06:17:51 PM
Holding off for the time being until I see what our "com guy" is doing.  He's the one with the link back to the commander.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 04, 2009, 08:33:50 AM
Sorry 'bout my lack of posting lately, the tech-gods weren't very benevolent to me.

I should at least be able to post on weekdays again.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 07, 2009, 03:45:27 AM
And I disappeared again. Sorry, I should have known better than to say that I would be more active right before finals started. I should be just about clear now, but now that I have said that, I will jinx myself. I'll update Wek'tcha when I can, it will probably take a bit, since I've never leveled to 10 before.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 08, 2009, 02:41:29 AM
: Alastar
Just as an aside, starting the fire with nothing but flint might be a problem, since, if you recall, it rained that night, and this is a very heavy forest, the trees are easily 5-10 feet in diameter.  Also, if you recall, the feys might be pissed at you if you start uncontrollable forest fires.

Remember, only YOU can prevent forest fire.
Whoops, I forgot about the rain. Well, considering that we're rangers and trackers, I think some of us will have the relevant knowledge to start a fire even in damp conditions. Besides, if it's wet then there'll be lots of smoke and it likely won't burn out of control, but it will attract attention.

<nasty>
Light a big animal on fire and let it run amuck, or tie an oil flask to a smaller animal. Either should burn for a while and make a commotion. Brutal but effective.
</nasty>
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 08, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
You're the worst ranger EVER.

Love the idea ^^
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 08, 2009, 03:10:05 PM
Ranger doesn't necessarily mean tree-hugging hippie :P

But yeah, Beyden/Surreal be awesome. Then again, I like pragmatists :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 08, 2009, 04:11:20 PM
Everyone is getting more present, let's crank it up, yey or nay on the beyden plan?  as soon as i get an ok, I'll narrate the happenings, so stat putting it together. :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 08, 2009, 04:37:35 PM
Technically, my skillset is geared more towards being an urban ranger. I didn't really have a fleshed out personality for Beyden, but I think Bowen nailed the description as a pragmatist. As the game goes on, he seems to be developing a philosophy of "brutal efficiency". He waffles a bit to start, looking for a "peaceful" solution to problems, but once a plan has been set/decided upon, he will follow it through without mercy. I think that fits with the more militant aspect of the Witch Hunters. Either you do it the easy way (our way), or we do it the hard way... which involves us hurting you and (assuming your survive) making you do it our way regardless.

Could we get a map so we can start figuring out positions? (or figure out hiding spots from which we can later position ourselves)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 08, 2009, 04:41:50 PM
I'll be out of town for some fresh air, so a map will have to wait till my return on sunday, but I'll have a crude paint version of the place up by sunday.

Just assume your south of the mountain, forest is everywhere around, and a DC 25 survival to start a nice smoky fire. 
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v May 08, 2009, 04:46:45 PM
Yey.

(Go beyden GO! BURN THOSE CRITTERS!!!)  ???  :bigeye  :(
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 08, 2009, 05:07:45 PM
"The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire..." :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 11, 2009, 04:06:55 PM
I just remembered I have a burrow speed. There's a chance we could tunnel in if we had to. :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 11, 2009, 04:22:36 PM
What was it again? 10ft. a round?

Would be nice though, even if it does take some time  :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 11, 2009, 07:13:40 PM
Wait... so we could actually just dig them out and avoid this whole mess in the first place? Assuming that we have 600' to go, that's 60 rounds...  6 minutes?

Heck, stick with the original plan but with slight variation. Wait until their scouts leave to check out the fake trail and Cooper's mess. Meanwhile, we're digging in until we're relatively close, then start a fire and/or have anyone not in the tunnel make a lot of noise and draw out the remaining gobs. Use that noise to cover the last few feet of digging, get our men, run back out (but have them hack the door open so it looks like a regular escape). LingLing will provide communications and make sure everything is timed properly.

In other news, I'm going to be scarce the next couple days. Work is nutty, and I just bought a house, and now my car is dying... so yeah. Stuff.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 11, 2009, 08:37:21 PM
stupid car and house, what did they ever do for you, eh!!!

But, correct me if i'm wrong, isn't a burrow speed limited, as in, you can't make a tunnel, and you can'T dig throught solid stone?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 11, 2009, 09:32:41 PM
Logan's burrow speed is 35 ft, since his land speed is 70 ft.

Lessee...you can't dig through solid stone(correct there) and whether or not it leaves a tunnel is usually in the creature description(so maybe/maybe not).
Nothing about tunneling in the Mineral Warrior desciption one way or the other.

i won't be terribly disappointed if I can't. I would merely be incredibly amused if I can. :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 11, 2009, 11:30:53 PM
From what i remember and read, you don't leave a tunnel unless it is specified you do, so no tunneling for the others, and you couldn't burrow throught the rock of the mountain, sorry.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic May 11, 2009, 11:56:03 PM
He couldn't.  I'm pretty sure I could.

Let me poke around and see what forms I get that have tunneling.

Argh.  One level too low for Umber Hulk.  Still looking.

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 12, 2009, 02:42:14 AM
Even if we can't make a tunnel, an earth glide capable member could still help with the escape from the inside.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 12, 2009, 07:38:45 AM
Badger? :D

I thought you leave a tunnel unless it specifies otherwise (like Earth Glide explicitely mentions it doesn't leave a tunnel)?


Ow well :)

EDIT: According to the SRD the Dire Badger leaves behing a usable tunnel. There are probably more critters who do so, but this was the first one I checked (cause badgers are awesome :D).
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 12, 2009, 12:06:00 PM
Yeah, but you have the rock problem still, and you can't cast soften earth and stone to help.

You can't change into outsiders right?

A delver would be nice, but it has 15 hd.

A thoqua?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 12, 2009, 12:19:50 PM
Even so, we should still be able to get pretty close to the mountain without exposing ourselves, right? I mean, it beats charging over 300 ft. of open ground...

We're not the frigging Light Brigade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgqxQmAbTBc) :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 12, 2009, 01:28:18 PM
A thoqua?

I checked. He doesn't have Elemental yet. If the answer exists, it is outside the Core.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic May 12, 2009, 08:38:44 PM
As far as I can tell, the answer doesn't exist.  I can do earth glide no problem; I can leave a tunnel through anything SHORT of solid rock, but I can't do solid rock and leave a usable tunnel until level 11.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 13, 2009, 02:04:49 AM
Then just earth glide yourself in and help Samoval and his men escape. The rest of the plan can proceed as is.

Even so, we should still be able to get pretty close to the mountain without exposing ourselves, right? I mean, it beats charging over 300 ft. of open ground...

We're not the frigging Light Brigade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgqxQmAbTBc) :P
You could at least link to the (awesome) poem: http://poetry.eserver.org/light-brigade.html
:P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 13, 2009, 03:24:52 AM
Then just earth glide yourself in and help Samoval and his men escape. The rest of the plan can proceed as is.

Even so, we should still be able to get pretty close to the mountain without exposing ourselves, right? I mean, it beats charging over 300 ft. of open ground...

We're not the frigging Light Brigade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgqxQmAbTBc) :P
You could at least link to the (awesome) poem: http://poetry.eserver.org/light-brigade.html
:P
What do you think they based it on ;)

One of the most literary and historically influenced metal bands :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 14, 2009, 03:00:10 AM
Could he tunnel the dirt and then earth glide them through the stone one by one? That way, there is less turnaround time, less time for them to notice someone is missing.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic May 14, 2009, 10:59:01 AM
Could he tunnel the dirt and then earth glide them through the stone one by one? That way, there is less turnaround time, less time for them to notice someone is missing.

I don't think earth gliding while carrying others is ever discussed in the rules.  It doesn't explicitly say you can, so I'm inclined to say you can't.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v May 14, 2009, 11:08:09 AM
Could he tunnel the dirt and then earth glide them through the stone one by one? That way, there is less turnaround time, less time for them to notice someone is missing.

I don't think earth gliding while carrying others is ever discussed in the rules.  It doesn't explicitly say you can, so I'm inclined to say you can't.

It doesn't explicitly say you can't, so I'm inclined to say you can.
There fix'd  :P

but lets not fight about it here...  :smirk

Alstar? What do you say, will earthglide do it? Or shall we continue to search?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 14, 2009, 12:09:27 PM
Earth Glide could work, assuming your talking about the earth elemental power, but one person at a time (as if your grappling)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v May 14, 2009, 12:41:39 PM
Earth Glide could work, assuming your talking about the earth elemental power, but one person at a time (as if your grappling)
Oooh... thats what i assumed we were talking about? I guess thats the one. I don't know of anyothers but i don't have the MM5 so... yeah.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 15, 2009, 03:30:00 AM
So, what skill would it be to make a convincing cover for a hole? Some of us make that, others scout out a clearing nearby but out of bowshot from the mountain. Then we have someone watching while well-hidden or invisible up in the trees (Ling-Ling?), while Nym and everyone else goes in. He brings us (or at least some of us) into the cell, then he gets Samoval's men out as quickly as he can, then gets the rest of us out. We serve as a rear guard, with Nym as a lookout to tell us if they find the entrance, in which case Nym either makes a different path or we fight them, depending on how many there are.

After we get out, we run for the clearing, where Cooper will be waiting, and we get Samoval's men out on Cooper. Can Nym do anything flying and capable of carrying people? If not, we load as many people as we can on Cooper, slow people first, then everyone left hoofs it before the goblins get search parties out.

One thing worries me about that last part: the dragon. If we don't know where it is, it might decide that Cooper, loaded down with all of the wounded, would make a nice snack. Would Cooper be able to out-run him? I'm not worried about the people on the ground so much, since it seems like they have a bit of a maneuverability advantage in thick forests, they don't have to move as far around trees.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic May 15, 2009, 02:08:41 PM
Earth Glide could work, assuming your talking about the earth elemental power, but one person at a time (as if your grappling)


I am indeed.  I can get Earth Glide from a number of forms.  If I can carry others along with me, then this just became a whole lot easier.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 15, 2009, 03:16:02 PM
Indeed it did :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 18, 2009, 03:02:28 AM
Sorry if I've been a little quiet lately. Who knew buying a house was so much work :rollseyes

If Nym is comfortable gliding in to join up with Samoval, then the plan should look something like this:
1) the goblin scouts have left to check on the Cooper mess and fake trails
2) make some noise/fire, draw out the remaining gobs
3) we make our attack amidst the confusion
4) Nym glides in, facilitates the escape, attacks from behind
4b) LingLing might be inside as well

Primary target is the caster. Coming from both sides, we should be able to set up flanking positions relatively quickly. Wek and LL should be able to get their sneak attacks off in a surprise round, and flanks can be set up afterwards. Don't forget that anyone struck by Beyden's arrows will also cause them to count as flanked, so take that into account when choosing targets.

Whoever wins initiative takes out the caster(s). Next in line takes out other primary targets, and set themselves up to cover the first guys. Repeat. Tylunth I assume will work control and shut down as many as possible. Beyden will hold action with his bow to target any caster as he gets a bunch of bonuses if he does so; either that or he'll just target whoever early on and enable the sneak attackers if it means they'll kill whatever they hit.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 18, 2009, 05:41:01 AM
I'm not seeing why we need to kill the goblins, if we can get the prisoners out. If we get our men out, heal up, and send a report, we could be at full strength if we are called to fight them again, and even if they are stupid enough to attack the village, it will be on our own territory, we should be able to see them coming, and their druids won't be able to tree stride all over the place. Might even take long enough for the prisoners to get a good eight hours and a meal, which means they can fight, bringing the numbers to less than 2 to 1, rather than more than 3 to 1.

Perhaps we have one person on lookout where Nym went in, one hiding in the cell, which would probably be Ling-Ling, especially if he can cling to the ceiling, where they won't be expecting him. the guard(s) see someone missing, rush in, and OHGODITSADROPBEAR! Then, some others are a ways around the clearing making a diversion ready in case they get discovered and ling-ling doesn't manage to decapitate the goblin in time, they set off something that will get the goblins to pay attention way away from where Nym will be coming out with Samoval, then run away so they don't get noticed. Anyone left would be near where Nym will be coming out, to keep the recovered prisoners safe,

It's not that I don't like the combat, it is just that one hit from a dire wolf and Wek'tcha is a bit of carapace and a smear on the ground, he is currently at 44 HP. It isn't that he wouldn't be able to take out a druid with his sneak attacks, but I don't know how well he would be able to survive the next round.

If there are guards at the door that check on the prisoners regularly, what is Nym's grapple mod as an Oread? Seems like being left in stone might be bad for the guard's health. No jumdee crystal, but nobody heard a thing, and I don't see a body, do you?

I do wish we could have a tunnel, though. That would be quicker to get everyone out. Especially if Nym can't find a cave.

edit: Nevermind, just saw the discussion IC. All right, lets hope for the best.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 18, 2009, 05:55:33 AM
I can't promise Ling Ling will stick to the plan when he sees the Wizard/Sorcerer/Arcane Caster big kahuna-dude of the goblins...:smirk
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 18, 2009, 06:23:39 AM
To be honest, I just threw the plan out there, and that was what... two weeks ago? Nothing else was really formulating and game pace was slowing down because we've all been twiddling our thumbs. I just want to keep the flow going.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 18, 2009, 07:08:34 AM
I made a suggestion on the 15th, but I guess that isn't working with the lack of tunneling capabilities. Pity, because otherwise a reverse great escape would have been a wonderful idea. Anyone have any other ideas of how to cut down on the time that everyone hasn't left the cell, but some have? If there was any way to cut it down significantly below 30 minutes (assuming 6 minutes each way), it might work better. If we had a spellcaster, I would suggest an illusion, but that is the idea of this game, not using spellcasters.

Four guards, can we find out how long the watches are? And do they have a closed cell (door, little observation window, walls) or a cage? If we timed to hit right after the change of the watch, we might be able to take them all out before they raised an alarm if all, or almost all of us went in. Ling-Ling and Wek'tcha could each hit one for a decent amount of damage, using maneuvers. Probably wouldn't finish one (6d6+9+1d8 from Wek, not sure with Ling-Ling, at least 8d6+9) , but with another attack from one of the others, they would fall. In the first round, Ling Ling and Wek'tcha would get the first strike unless we got terrible init rolls and they got natural 20s, Wek has +14, Ling Ling has +11. A full attack on a flatfooted opponent would definitely kill anything near our ECL that doesn't have DR10.

It seems like we should be able to take advantage of the earthglide ability (so what do they call the version of it for floating in space, like an astronaut?), and with enough people, we should be able to take out all of the guards before they raised an alarm. If anyone staying outside sets something on fire (let Tylunth do it and he will love you forever), even if they did yell something, it might get lost in the general yelling when they see their forest smoking. Just throwing ideas out there, we have enough abilities we should be able to do more lateral thinking than just flanking them.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v May 18, 2009, 11:00:54 AM
OHGODITSADROPBEAR!
  :twitch a drop bear? I haven't heard that since I was outside of Brisbane. . . you from Australia?

It seems like we should be able to take advantage of the earthglide ability (so what do they call the version of it for floating in space, like an astronaut?), and with enough people, we should be able to take out all of the guards before they raised an alarm. If anyone staying outside sets something on fire (let Tylunth do it and he will love you forever), even if they did yell something, it might get lost in the general yelling when they see their forest smoking. Just throwing ideas out there, we have enough abilities we should be able to do more lateral thinking than just flanking them.
Tylunth... psycho for hire? LOL
Still its kinda the same idea yeah. . . I don't think tylunth shuold be the one setting fires perse...
I don't want someone to split up really, cause that could lead to getting stuck in an isolated combat. Maybe we could start them simultaneously... also...
 It just crossed my mind, what if sammoval and his crew are there because they've been ensorcelled? I just want nym to be aware of the possibility. Consider all things but only what matters.

: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 18, 2009, 01:34:28 PM
If Nym is going to help from the inside, don't forget that he can also bring one person IN with him. ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 18, 2009, 02:17:40 PM
Nice :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v May 18, 2009, 05:01:41 PM
Ahh yesss:

"Someone set us up the Tylu- er... I mean the bomb. Set us up the bomb lOl
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 19, 2009, 01:08:12 AM
OHGODITSADROPBEAR!
  :twitch a drop bear? I haven't heard that since I was outside of Brisbane. . . you from Australia?
No, I've just heard of them. Not sure where originally, but at least in Pratchett's The Last Continent. Come on, who wouldn't tell stories about bloodthirsty giant koalas?

SDK, I was figuring that he would bring in at least one person, and Ling-Ling would go in himself, since with a +60 hide skill and darkstalker, he could dance on a goblin's head without it noticing.

...I just realized, he could bring in one person the first time, one person the second time, and one person the third time. If we pick people that look enough like the ones we are replacing, at least when they are collapsed in a corner (if they are in their uniforms, it should be easy, though I don't know who would be the dwarf. Maybe take him out last so they get less chances to notice that he looks bigger all of a sudden), they won't raise an alarm, and then we have five people (Nym, Ling Ling, and the replacements) inside. Nym moves people into position through the floor, dropping them off where they can hide, and then when everyone is in position, Ling-Ling signals us through the mind link and we all attack at once. Five people should be able to take out at least two people in a single surprise round, and then Ling-Ling and Wek'tcha both have ridiculous initiative modifiers and damage outputs above 100 for a full round attack, so they could finish off the last two before they even move.

Extraction would be slow, so we would want to time the attack for right after the change of the guards, when we have plenty of time. Ling-Ling can get out like he came in, and Wek'tcha might be able to escape in an emergency, following Ling-Ling, so we should be able to manage it.

How does that sound? I'm just trying to brainstorm ideas.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 19, 2009, 02:41:52 AM
Five people attacking from inside locked cages and cells?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 19, 2009, 03:38:12 AM
I was thinking Nym can glide us to a good position to attack from, one at a time. That depends on the area, of course. Ling-Ling would be outside the cell to begin with, hanging out (sorry) on the ceiling. Wek'tcha could cling to the upper wall, in a shadow, Nym could come out of the floor with one other person, and the last person would be where it depends on the terrain. Beyden could shoot from a cell, if he had to, or from around a corner. Logan could... not hide in the stone, if he could stand up as a free or swift action, he could be burrowed in the dirt. Tylunth... I don't really know what he can do, all I know is he has a halberd and stops people from moving.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v May 19, 2009, 11:25:26 AM
I was thinking Nym can glide us to a good position to attack from, one at a time. That depends on the area, of course. Ling-Ling would be outside the cell to begin with, hanging out (sorry) on the ceiling. Wek'tcha could cling to the upper wall, in a shadow, Nym could come out of the floor with one other person, and the last person would be where it depends on the terrain. Beyden could shoot from a cell, if he had to, or from around a corner. Logan could... not hide in the stone, if he could stand up as a free or swift action, he could be burrowed in the dirt. Tylunth... I don't really know what he can do, all I know is he has a halberd and stops people from moving.
LOL Tylunth "fear locks" people... Come to think of it with all those shaken affects from dreadful wrath a lot of the time you might be able to just walk up and intimidate some of the people I'm "Opressing" to death. So yeah. Its just fear....
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 19, 2009, 06:33:39 PM
See, I don't know what fear locking is. Is it basically forcing them to be cowering?

You know... how many people can he effect, and what distance? Because if it is cowering, it says they can take no actions. Speaking is an action. Can't raise an alarm if you are too afraid to do it.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v May 20, 2009, 10:42:15 AM
See, I don't know what fear locking is. Is it basically forcing them to be cowering?

You know... how many people can he effect, and what distance? Because if it is cowering, it says they can take no actions. Speaking is an action. Can't raise an alarm if you are too afraid to do it.
Yeah fear locking is using the escalating fear to "lock" people it goes "Shaken, frightened, panicked, cowering. . . " Imperious command makes your intimidate checks to demoralize in combat to cause people to cower for 1 round then be shaken for an additional round afterwards. Well the thing is... if another fear effect affects someone already feared then the worst level of fear will remain until all fear effects are cleared. So yeah. I have a few of them to use...
Hmm... well I can do it to 1 person within 30ft when I rage... but also during that I can do it to anyone within 10ft once per encounter as a skill trick. I can do it as a swift action normally (not through rage) but not at range.
Also I have dreadful wrath (which is basically the real version of dragon fear as its not level capped) and finally the "Glaive" "Quell" (which for in game purposes is more a stylized axe) is a +1 subjagating weapon. Which forces a dc 20 will save vs... anyone struck or they're shaken. Its from heroes of battle.
So the whole tylunth the oppressor thing is that he's literally the Big Scary Black Guy trope.

I never thought about using it like the way you suggest but it might work.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 20, 2009, 04:26:45 PM
See, when we were joking about Tylunth setting things on fire, I was imagining that scene from Princess Bride with the giant flaming "Dread Pirate Roberts"...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v May 20, 2009, 04:28:57 PM
See, when we were joking about Tylunth setting things on fire, I was imagining that scene from Princess Bride with the giant flaming "Dread Pirate Roberts"...
I get no end of gibs about my love of the "Dread pirate" and having never seen that movie. I always forget to rent it.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 20, 2009, 05:09:13 PM
See, when we were joking about Tylunth setting things on fire, I was imagining that scene from Princess Bride with the giant flaming "Dread Pirate Roberts"...
I get no end of gibs about my love of the "Dread pirate" and having never seen that movie. I always forget to rent it.
Heh, I still haven't seen it either :embarrassed
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 21, 2009, 05:01:17 AM
See, when we were joking about Tylunth setting things on fire, I was imagining that scene from Princess Bride with the giant flaming "Dread Pirate Roberts"...
I get no end of gibs about my love of the "Dread pirate" and having never seen that movie. I always forget to rent it.
I in no way shape or form suggest looking it up on youtube, because that would be illegal, even if someone did put up the whole movie.

So, how many people could Tylunth fear in a round, and at what range on each? If he could get two, Ling Ling and Wek'tcha could reliably get the others before they got their actions, even if he just got one, they probably could by attacking the same target during the surprise round and then each taking one the next round.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v May 21, 2009, 11:25:49 AM
See, when we were joking about Tylunth setting things on fire, I was imagining that scene from Princess Bride with the giant flaming "Dread Pirate Roberts"...
I get no end of gibs about my love of the "Dread pirate" and having never seen that movie. I always forget to rent it.
I in no way shape or form suggest looking it up on youtube, because that would be illegal, even if someone did put up the whole movie.

So, how many people could Tylunth fear in a round, and at what range on each? If he could get two, Ling Ling and Wek'tcha could reliably get the others before they got their actions, even if he just got one, they probably could by attacking the same target during the surprise round and then each taking one the next round.
Hmm... it depends on locale... He could get 9+ depending, even our of turn if surrounded...
Everyone within a 10ft radius (however thats calculated) and one within 30 feet, who would probbably just lose 1 round unless tylunth hit get within 20ft of him in which case he'll be dreadful wrath "juggled" along with the adjacent people who are probabbly getting hit by quell.
But 2? Two should be no problem, "interupt one" even if I lose init. Strike the other one one a charge.

This is of course baring "immunities" to fear etc... which in that case well none but I still have shock trooper and leap attack.
...
So yeah. 1 person within 30ft and as many people within a 10ft radius as possible (once per encounter/Rage)
+ anyone in melee as a swift action each round.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 21, 2009, 08:22:30 PM
AS soon as you have a working plan, sum it up and i will narrate what happens, I'm just not clear on what you're gonna do right now :S
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 22, 2009, 03:10:53 AM
So if you can be within melee with one and 30 feet of another, you can get them both, or if they were bunched, you could get them all. The swift action thing is separate from making an attack, right? So you could move and then fear in a surprise round, using the equivalent of one standard action?

If so, I'm going to suggest this for a final plan: Ling Ling goes in on his own, Nym brings in one person and takes one person out, repeating until everyone is out. Then, he comes back in, earthglides anyone inside that needs to get out into position, and we all strike on Ling-Ling's mental signal. Not sure who should go in when, Wek'tcha will need to be there, he and Ling Ling will be the main offensive, with their high init modifiers getting the goblins before they act. Tylunth will keep them too scared to scream, that leaves one person to come in, and one person to stay outside. I suggest we have Cooper wait in a nearby clearing, get the prisoners loaded up on him when we leave, but who should stay outside? I suggest that we have Tylunth and the other person going in before Wek'tcha, and have Samoval and the Goliath leave before the Dwarf, because Wek'tcha and the dwarf will probably be the most easily recognized changes.

Weapons, would there be somewhere that they could be hidden in the cell? Probably if the Goliath could hide his weapons, Tylunth can hide his Halberd. If not, Wek'tcha will let Tylunth borrow his collar of a metric crapton of enchantments including a handy haversack (if Wek'tcha seems hot under the collar, his tindertwigs probably have gone up) until they get ready to fight.

I see it going like this:

Surprise round: Ling-Ling and Wek'tcha attack a goblin, together they should be able to finish one, using their martial adept techniques. Tylunth fears as many as he can get to, he should be near the ones that are farther away from Ling Ling and Wek'tcha, even though with swift leap, we each should be able to get to another without a problem. Nym might bring Tylunth out of the ground right next to one of the goblins, depending on the layout, or he might weaken/finish off a goblin, same with the other person coming in.

First round: Ling Ling and Wek'tcha get their actions first (barring really crappy luck of the dice), and each take out another guard with full attacks. Tylunth keeps the goblins cowering, Nym and Beyden/Logan take attacks on any good target. They should all fall within this round.

Afterwards: We bring the goblins into the cell, cover them with cloaks or whatever we can, try to make them look like the prisoners, but we don't wait for that to be done before Nym begins to take us back out, Ling-Ling leaves after he has begun to glide the last person back.

Sound good? I don't like leaving one person alone outside, but that is the way it seems like it will work. I think the person best suited to hide or run away should things go sour should be the one outside. In case of a patrol coming by, he sends a message to Ling-Ling, and gets the prisoners currently out to Cooper. Can Cooper understand speech? We want to make sure that he can be called back down once danger is past. If he can't, I guess Beyden should stay outside, since I assume he can communicate with Cooper.

If I have made a mistake about anyone's abilities, let me know. I don't know a lot of the classes, abilities, and creatures being used, so I could have missed something important.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v May 22, 2009, 02:52:21 PM
Sounds Solid...
 :D lets do it.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 22, 2009, 02:56:07 PM
Agreed, we move :)

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 22, 2009, 03:07:26 PM
I concur. Let's just get the ball rolling.

Apologies if I have slow posting... life is still a bit hectic right now.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 22, 2009, 03:11:02 PM
^ What he said.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 27, 2009, 05:13:19 PM
The encounters were the reason i didN't post earlier, i'm kinda busy stating out everyone involved.  Most important are the oracle, samoval and the red goblin, but the others with you will fight too, so it's important too.

the battle threads are incomplete so far, but they will be up in about an hour, fully functionnal, so post your initiative

Ling-Ling, unfortunately for you, you do not have hide in plain sight, the room has a daylight spell cast on it anyways, and as soon as you leave cover, you will be seen.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 27, 2009, 05:27:23 PM
Too bad. I'll have to use my Cloak of Deception or Distracting Ember then :)

Any cheap ways to pick up HiPS that you guys know of?
Might come in handy in the future :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 27, 2009, 07:41:52 PM
Surreal, roll initiative for Cooper.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 28, 2009, 02:54:10 AM
I'm going to need to update Wek'tcha, I managed to forget about not changing him to 10th level until yesterday, right after I had made the IC post. Hopefully it won't take me long, but I'm not used to playing at this level.

edit: I think I've got it pretty much done, guess it is easier when I barely have any choices to make this level.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 29, 2009, 08:19:42 PM
I know, double post, but it fits better here than in the game thread.

I'm thinking that once we get out of this, when we get back to the chapterhouse, we need to look into some sort of dispel magic items, see if the witch hunters have thought of anything like that. Also, I'm thinking lead-lined cloaks, a thin enough layer of lead that it more like lead foil, except that would probably tear too easy, so maybe very very thin mail. Divinations are blocked by a layer of lead, so next time, they don't get to scry us. We could toss them during battle, probably, if the extra weight would be an issue.

Also, Bowen suggested Wek'tcha get a level of barbarian in the battle thread when I mentioned needing pounce. This is more towards Alastar, is the multiclass penalty in play? I assume it is, but I might as well check. Does anyone else know an easy way to get pounce? Is there a ranger variant that gets it? a PrC that could be dipped? I can get the pouncing charge boost in a level or two, but that is a one-per-encounter thing unless I take a full round to refresh my maneuvers.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 29, 2009, 09:26:27 PM
Yep, assuming we all survive...
Also, I'm thinking lead-lined cloaks, a thin enough layer of lead that it more like lead foil, except that would probably tear too easy, so maybe very very thin mail.

...Does anyone else know an easy way to get pounce? Is there a ranger variant that gets it? a PrC that could be dipped? I can get the pouncing charge boost in a level or two, but that is a one-per-encounter thing unless I take a full round to refresh my maneuvers.
Obligatory...[spoiler]
(http://cmacivor.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/tin-foil-hat2.jpg?w=400&h=300)[/spoiler]

Also, my lists of stuff have methods for pouncing. There's a new thread over on 339 (which I just added to my handy links, check the last post) which discusses this as well.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar May 29, 2009, 10:06:23 PM
No multiclass penalties, take your level of barb if you want.

I actually lolled surreal :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho May 30, 2009, 02:01:19 AM
Thanks, both of you. I checked your list of stuff, but didn't see anything that looked like it would work, so I asked in case I missed something. Hadn't seen the new thread, looking at it now.

edit: Just realized, barbarian is non-lawful only. Wek'tcha is lawful. And the search begins anew...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 30, 2009, 04:31:26 AM
Travel Devotion gets you pretty much the same effect. Would be best to take it with a Cleric dip ofcourse, but that's a caster...

: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 31, 2009, 08:46:28 PM
Didn't realize that goblin was so wounded. Yes, the full attack is continued on the other one. Since two claws hit...
Vicious (1d6=2, 1d6=6) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2095610/)
Current hit points: 61
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 06:20:47 AM
Figured I'd ask about the Energy Drain ability in the Ask a simple question thread to see what the general consensus is. Hope you don't mind, Alastar :)

Linky: http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=4314.msg153057#msg153057 (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=4314.msg153057#msg153057)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 01, 2009, 06:29:23 AM
Not at all, it'll help me sort this out, i see your angle, but i like to think the developpers weren't THAT crazy, and touching usually implies a touch attack.

We'll see what the boards think.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 08:12:55 AM
Yeah, I kinda see your point as well. I think there's some confusion because the text doesn't actually say 'touch attack', so the ability can be read as working whenever you touch your opponent, which you do with natural weapon attacks.


EDIT: And that's one for me :P

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=4314.msg153106#msg153106 (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=4314.msg153106#msg153106)


Let's see if there'll be more replies :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 01, 2009, 12:09:04 PM
Yeah, but one of the answerers is biased :P  It's tylunth !!! :P

We'll see if there's more.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v June 01, 2009, 12:27:29 PM
Yeah, but one of the answerers is biased :P  It's tylunth !!! :P

We'll see if there's more.
:twitch


  :nonono Fair enough and for that matter the link that I posted was a design written by "Nym" errr... Caelic.

Frankly I wouldn't risk my good name on something so trivial as I was an optimizer LONG before I discovered play by post... and I am thusly insulted.  :ahem
Still allow me to ... post an unbiased link.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 12:37:10 PM
Give it up Alastar, we've got you outnumbered :P


There's a Soul Eater handbook over on 339 IIRC. That uses the 'drain-with-a-succesful-attack' thing as well.

EDIT: Linky (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=513069) :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 01:44:26 PM
BTW, just something I thought off. Not sure if any of the goblins have a miss chance or something similar, but Ling Ling has a constant True Seeing effect due to being a Beguiler:

-True Seeing (Su): Beguilers always see as under the effect of a True Seeing  spell.


Figured I'd mention it just in case :)



Also, Moonbolt bites...
Glad Ling Ling is Dex and Int based :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 01, 2009, 01:52:04 PM
What's funny is Logan is only one feat and an alignment change away from qualifying for Soul Eater.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 01:53:46 PM
Awesomesauce :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 01, 2009, 02:13:46 PM
No, they don't have a miss chance ;) :P

And yeah, jsut be happy you got your save, or else you'd be asleep in the middle of 3 pissed off goblins.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 02:31:30 PM
Only thing really affected is my Jump check...


Wait, no, I also get a -3 on melee damage...

That goblin is going down :fu

Just hoping he doesn't have IMPROVED Uncanny Dodge :eh
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 01, 2009, 02:37:04 PM
Well, i'm not an original man.... and he's an ORACLE... remember what divine class has oracle in it...?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 02:50:16 PM
Yeah, I figured as much. Just not sure anymore if that gets Improved Uncanny Dodge as well...

Lemme dig up my copy of Complete Divine :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 02:51:48 PM
He's at least level 11, isn't he?

Sonuva...



:P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal June 01, 2009, 04:30:01 PM
Dude, you're throwing minions at us that have damage potential more than twice or triple our HP? :twitch Well fusk, there goes Cooper and a third of my WBL...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 04:35:30 PM
Yeah, just read that...

Wow...


Next time (assuming there is a next time) maybe Cooper should stay airborn and go for Flyby Attacks and ranged attacks...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho June 01, 2009, 04:36:49 PM
Am I the only one that finds it kind of funny that the most dangerous foes we have faced so far in this game to see if a non-magical party could cut it against a party that did use magic have been martial adepts?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 01, 2009, 04:42:23 PM
They're the mooks, and they're powerful cause they're buffed 8-)

Like, the ones agaisn't the forest people have haste, greater magic wepaon, magic vestment, and spiderskin active.

The ones in the prison have shield of faith, righteous wrath of the faithful, greater magic weapon, magic vestment.

They'd be chopped liver without those spells ^^
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal June 01, 2009, 04:55:01 PM
Alastar has been controlling Cooper's actions, so I just went along with that. Flying definitely would have been the better choice in that first round; move action fly up, standard action to hail of feathers. On the other hand, without Cooper in the way those attack sequences could have been directed at us and we'd have been insta-gibbed.

Seriously... it's a low magic game here (for us PCs), and the secondary mooks we're facing have better attack bonuses and damage potential than our blenders? Then on top of that we're outnumbered, ambushed, surrounded (again), and just to add insult to our negative action economy the enemy casters are tossing out two spells a round. Not cool.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 01, 2009, 05:10:10 PM
hmmm, that is true, i had a lot of trouble gauging what should and what should not happen here, without gimping the fact you're playing spellcasters and gauging your power level.

you guys dispatched my 4 level 11 druid encounter relatively easily, so i thought upping the scales a bit was important, and making the mooks level 8 was enough, but you're right, there's too many of them, i should have made them level 6 instead, that would have been better off.

Let's see if you guys can pull this off thought, i think you can, and i'm sorry if you think this is insulting, it's just me having problems with gauging the appropriate encounter power.  Considering you have cooper and some npc's with you.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 01, 2009, 05:15:51 PM
Btw, overevaluating the party's power is one of my biggest flaws as a GM, i'm really sorry if this is ruining your fun.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 05:23:17 PM
Eh, I don't blame you for anything. I know it happens plenty of times that you over- or underestimate either the party or your encounters, I'm a DM in real life :)

As you said, those buffs make a huge difference. In a 'normal' party we might have been able to take care of those with Dispel Magic and the like, but here the only thing we can do is suck it up until the duration runs out.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal June 01, 2009, 06:01:52 PM
Against the druids, we had trees for cover, and we had our full team for shutdown via Tylunth and alphastriking with the blenders who could concentrate their fire and brought us back to action parity with their first attack sequences. Even then, we had some lucky roles.

Now... 10 gobs pre-buffed, let's say about CR 10 each, plus the red goblin which I'll say is about CR 12. Even running that through a basic calculator, that's an encounter level of 17. Looking at the forest encounter, we're sitting about party level 12, reduced blending, no field control options.

I don't want to sound like I'm whining, but dude... I mean, I can see how it can be tricky to balance out an encounter sometimes, but your numbers are scary. Mooks shouldn't be able to one-shot our strongest fighter by a very wide margin, and if they outnumber us almost 2-1, that's bad mojo.

And weren't we supposed to save Cooper for a deus ex machina? Putting her into battle only skews the balance even more.

Anyhow, assuming Cooper survives until her turn for the fast healing to kick in and bring her back to consciousness, she will probably retreat up (unless she takes AoOs for that, in which case she's dead). If she can retreat out of range and still make the hail of feathers, even better. Beyden will likely repeat the same ready action to target the red goblin. I don't think I have the damage potential to take anybody out, so I'm better off spending my action to at least cut down the red's casting in half.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 01, 2009, 06:04:31 PM
Yeah, we had some definite advantages in the Druid battle we don't have in this one.

If I survive this round I'll probably try to Drain the Oracle with a full attack.


By the way, 2 points for me ;)

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=4314.msg153214#msg153214 (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=4314.msg153214#msg153214)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 01, 2009, 06:13:47 PM
We can pull this off. We ALSO have Martial Adepts, of the healing variety.

BTW, what weapons are the two 'bodyguards' in front of Red Goblin using? That will help me decide how they should die.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic June 01, 2009, 08:07:47 PM
Well, we'll see.  One more round of attacks and I'm down, and I can't afford to lose a round of actions to heal.  Nor would the amount of healing I could do change the outcome much; it's less than a single shot from one of the mooks.

I really, REALLY have to protest the use of Ray of Stupidity; it's probably THE most broken spell in the game for its level.

The whole "two spells plus a move action" thing is also raising some eyebrows.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 02, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
Master Conjurer 10, nothing far-fetched.

Really sorry, i'll tone it down a bit from now on.

The goblins are CR 8, they have no magical items, at all.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 02, 2009, 02:06:48 PM
The goblins are CR 8, they have no magical items, at all.

No....treasure....*faints*

Just remembered!
Okay, I don't care if the alarm bell rings and reinforcements are shuffling through the hall. EXTRACT THOSE CRYSTALS from their bodies. :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 02, 2009, 05:53:35 PM
Haha, will do, just need to waste them first, though :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v June 02, 2009, 08:32:48 PM
I wanted to say...
I think these fights are relatively fair.

I don't think we're outmatched or that we should complain much about the choice of spells used and the such.
Why?
Well we agreed that we'd play the game that we'd normally play sans spell casters. Some of the fights we're going to have will be like this: Hard as hell. Why? Without magic ... numbers matter and lots of things matter magic would solve. Like being surprised, as we have no divination, and out fights are strictly governed by our ability to plan and fight.

Though I do feel like we should be fighting duskblades or rangers or somthing not martial adepts.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic June 03, 2009, 12:17:08 AM

Well we agreed that we'd play the game that we'd normally play sans spell casters.


I agree.  The game I'd normally play wouldn't include Ray of Stupidity, though; it's a very badly-designed spell.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v June 03, 2009, 12:54:25 AM

Well we agreed that we'd play the game that we'd normally play sans spell casters.


I agree.  The game I'd normally play wouldn't include Ray of Stupidity, though; it's a very badly-designed spell.
:plotting -Hmm... fair enough. Though the game might not include polymorph shennanigans or in that same vien many of the things that might have been decided "out" if we'd discussed it. Though I do understand where you're coming from. I had to go back and re-read it.
 However as it stands... I fully expect to fight a wizard with 9headed cryohydra form at somepoint.
Here's why. Alstar was (i feel) pretty liberal when discussing our character designs. On some level I would expect him to use the equalivalent amount of resources when providing for our opponents. I mean speaking for myself. My character is using a pretty good fear set. Imperious command is tough.
  We are a damn strong party, and we split our force... I think (ray of stupidity aside) that overall we could've expected some hardcore opposition. I think its tactics not so much our advesaries.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho June 03, 2009, 01:48:41 AM
Tactics was somewhat my fault. I've never played high level before, so it never occurred to me that they would be scrying us constantly.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal June 03, 2009, 03:27:48 AM
I still say we should have tried teaming up with the dragon. If nothing else, that /should/ have been an easier fight. Best case, it fights with us. Worst case, we kill it and present the head as a peace offering to the gobs.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 03, 2009, 06:19:35 AM
Eh, we can do that afterwards :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic June 03, 2009, 11:56:35 AM
However as it stands... I fully expect to fight a wizard with 9headed cryohydra form at somepoint.


Sure; the fundamental difference I see between Polymorph (which is merely sickeningly overpowered) and RoS is that Polymorph isn't an automatic "I Win" button.  Against many opponents, RoS is.  I have no problem with overpowered; I dislike automatic-I-win.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 03, 2009, 12:37:33 PM
I shall thus never again use ray of stupidity, nor will i use shivering touch.

Promise.

Tylunth, if you go reread the prison encounter, you'll see that the only way you could do a run action is by running THROUGHT 3 goblins (since a run has to be in a straight line).  Mind correcting your actions? 

Also, post an attack for your karmic strike.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 03, 2009, 06:34:18 PM
There. Got another one(so 4 mooks left). I hope it used it's readied action well.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v June 03, 2009, 06:57:39 PM
I shall thus never again use ray of stupidity, nor will i use shivering touch.

Promise.

Tylunth, if you go reread the prison encounter, you'll see that the only way you could do a run action is by running THROUGHT 3 goblins (since a run has to be in a straight line).  Mind correcting your actions? 

Also, post an attack for your karmic strike.
:facepalm Doh! I totally missed that. *sigh* okay I will start anew...

Okay its done hows that?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 05, 2009, 01:32:23 PM
For fans of my crappy yet awesome video performances, here ya go : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRrQyZgtvl0
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 05, 2009, 01:52:43 PM
So, think you can get the NPC actions posted anytime soon, Al?

I wanna get the next round started :D


EDIT: If it weren't for your size I wouldn't have recognized you :P
Why'd you cut the hair?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 05, 2009, 02:02:23 PM
Yeah sorry, it's just very strenuous work, was taking a 24hour break, should be done with the npc's in about an hour or two.

CUt my hair a year ago, my ex wanted to see me with short hair.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 05, 2009, 02:04:05 PM
Heh, the lengths we go through for women :P

Don't sweat it ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 05, 2009, 02:18:45 PM
Heh, the lengths we go through for women :P

Short lengths, in this case, for Alastar's hair.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v June 05, 2009, 02:57:29 PM
That is freakin Awesome Alstar! LOL
Speaking of vids... I ever post my level 1 jitsu fight?

 Jui-justu? Or Wrestling? You decide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYLl-2a7JqE) There's no sound and it of dubious quality but hey I'm had a level one camera as well.  ;)
...
I'm glad someone said something I've been sitting on edge checking every couple hours. Hopefully Nadashio can manage to save you.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal June 05, 2009, 05:16:42 PM
So we've got the big French viking sized guy, the black martial arts guy, me the secret Asian man...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 05, 2009, 05:28:44 PM
And me, the nerdy white guy who's finally content about himself, even if he knows he needs to work on his body once he finishes this year of uni (at least the face and hair work for me, now to work on my social skillz and confidenzorz with womenz :embarrassed)

: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 05, 2009, 07:36:47 PM
So we've got the big French viking sized guy, the black martial arts guy, me the secret Asian man...

It's the secret Asian man's turn, by the way.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 05, 2009, 07:45:11 PM
For fans of my crappy yet awesome video performances, here ya go : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRrQyZgtvl0

I...actually enjoyed a Rick Roll. I've got to go see a doctor about this...

Sorry Midnight...not much of a fan of sports that involve wrapping your legs around another guy.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 05, 2009, 07:48:02 PM
Still waiting, Alastar ;) (yes, Imma keep bugging you in the hopes of being able to post Ling Ling's actions tomorrow morning :P)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v June 05, 2009, 07:49:29 PM
Still waiting, Alastar ;) (yes, Imma keep bugging you in the hopes of being able to post Ling Ling's actions tomorrow morning :P)
LOL
Our party is awesome.  :D Secret Agent MAN! SecreT Asian man!
Good times.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 05, 2009, 07:57:11 PM
Almost makes me think of that old series, what was it called? The 6 million dollar man or something?


Also, I seem to remember seeing a RL pic of you sometime Surreal...

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal June 06, 2009, 02:35:41 AM
Also, I seem to remember seeing a RL pic of you sometime Surreal...
I tend to keep a very low internet profile... are you sure it was me and not one of the other billion guys that look like me?

Here's one of my favourite pics of me for sheer wtf factor...
[spoiler](http://www.mts.net/~ncghl/temp1/grapefruits.jpg)[/spoiler]
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho June 06, 2009, 03:30:23 AM
Hopefully Nadashio can manage to save you.
Honestly? Hopefully he can get back here instead, I can't get that far with any good damage, especially not against someone immune to sneak attack damage. We ought to be able to finish the 3 goblins that you feared, though. That helps the odds a bit.

If Tylunth can get the oracle to cower, Ling-Ling and Wek'tcha ought to be able to curbstomp him pretty hard, since uncanny dodge doesn't protect him from losing his dexterity to cowering. We do have a couple of people with reach weapons, so for now, we ought to be safe from the mooks, as long as Tylunth and Artosia have enough AoOs to stop anyone that tries to come for us. Do you still have the 30 foot fear effect ready? If you can get close enough to use that next round, Ling-Ling would get a chance to attack before anyone else on their side moves, so he can get his revenge.

Oh, and:
And me, the nerdy white guy who's finally content about himself, even if he knows he needs to work on his body once he finishes this year of uni (at least the face and hair work for me, now to work on my social skillz and confidenzorz with womenz Embarrassed)

Dammit bowen, you and I are using the same kind of build again? Yours is still more optimized than mine, though.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 06, 2009, 08:55:06 AM
@ Surreal:

I think it was a pic of you with some other guys, and you didn't mention which one you were. But people were able to draw that conclusion by themselves since you had mention you were asian on some other thread.


Something like that anyway...


@ Nodaisho:

:lmao
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho June 06, 2009, 09:02:15 AM
I think it was a pic of you with some other guys, and you didn't mention which one you were. But people were able to draw that conclusion by themselves since you had mention you were asian on some other thread.
tl;dr, this board is full of people that are obsessed and stalking you.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 06, 2009, 09:23:09 AM
I think it was a pic of you with some other guys, and you didn't mention which one you were. But people were able to draw that conclusion by themselves since you had mention you were asian on some other thread.
tl;dr, this board is full of people that are obsessed and stalking you.
:looloo





:devil :plotting :evillaugh
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal June 06, 2009, 02:12:41 PM
It won't be the first time...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 06, 2009, 02:20:11 PM
Ouch...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 06, 2009, 02:33:17 PM
Hahahahaha, that pic made me laugh so hard!!!

Updating prison encounter

GJ on the forest encounter.

I'm irish not dannish in origin btw ^^
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 06, 2009, 02:42:21 PM
I'm off to a movie night with some friends, I should be able to post my actions tomorrow morning.

And good job with the Forest encounter, guys :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho June 07, 2009, 01:06:43 AM
Wait, so is Samoval Captain America? He just threw his shield and took out three goblins.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 07, 2009, 05:10:29 AM
Loosely based on, yeah :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 07, 2009, 07:54:19 AM
Hope we don't encounter any snipers then :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v June 07, 2009, 12:02:10 PM
Hope we don't encounter any snipers then :P

+ fucking 1!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal June 07, 2009, 02:15:08 PM
Nah, we all know it was the brainwashed trusted friend who pulls the coup-de-gras from up close...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 07, 2009, 04:13:39 PM
[paranoid]From now on I'm sleeping alone, away from the party![/paranoid]



:P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 07, 2009, 05:14:59 PM
[paranoid]From now on I'm sleeping alone, away from the party![/paranoid]

Good. Then there will be no one to hear you scream...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho June 07, 2009, 09:17:17 PM
Is ling-ling dead, dying, or just disabled?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 07, 2009, 09:38:01 PM
Dying. I counted -3.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 08, 2009, 02:34:37 AM
Aye, -3. I was expecting that to happen, but I just couldn't find any way to get my furry little ass out of his threat range after dealing with the other 2.


Damn, I really need a Belt of Battle and something to give me a miss chance :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 08, 2009, 03:01:45 AM
Aye, the tactical thing to do ther ewould have been to regroup with the others, your battlefield controllers in this fight being only tylunth.

But then, what kind of sadistical furry beast of hell would you be!!!!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 08, 2009, 03:50:42 AM
Exactly :D


EDIT: Now finish that last goblin and get me some healing. I'm bleeding all over the place :P


: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 08, 2009, 04:06:12 AM
Yes. Blender Supreme though you are, Tank you are not! Your 12 Con is your weakness, Ling-Ling-san: mindful of it, you must be. Is discretion part of valor? Maybe. Maybe not. Still, no fun it is, to be dead. And with no Ling-Ling, there will be no Bling-Bling. So die, you must not! /Yoda
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 08, 2009, 04:19:56 AM
Yes. Blender Supreme though you are, Tank you are not! Your 12 Con is your weakness, Ling-Ling-san: mindful of it, you must be. Is discretion part of valor? Maybe. Maybe not. Still, no fun it is, to be dead. And with no Ling-Ling, there will be no Bling-Bling. So die, you must not! /Yoda
Epic :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho June 08, 2009, 04:24:33 AM
Right. Do any of us know what part of the goblins get turned into jumdee crystals? I say the person with the highest wisdom mod (if nobody has heal ranks) in the prison encounter attempts to stabilize him, while as many others give aid anothers as Alastar allows, and at least one person cuts that part off/out to be taken with us while we go.

Say, if we have to fight any more, what kind of demoralization modifier would it be to throw the hearts of their companions at our enemies?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v June 08, 2009, 11:12:11 AM
Say, if we have to fight any more, what kind of demoralization modifier would it be to throw the hearts of their companions at our enemies?
Damn thats hardcore. . .

I applaud you sir.  :clap
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 08, 2009, 12:46:37 PM
I'D give it a +4 circumstance bonus to intimidate :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 08, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
Haha, nice :D

: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 10, 2009, 02:58:50 PM
M_v, it's your turn ;)

(not rushing, just mentioning it :P)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v June 10, 2009, 07:59:49 PM
M_v, it's your turn ;)

(not rushing, just mentioning it :P)
oops! Sorry!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 12, 2009, 12:09:13 AM
I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO hiiiiiiighh.

Stupid brownies....

anyways, sorry i haven't posted much, I'll do something tommorow.

I would like to point out that i love you guys.

It's been fun getting to know you a bit throught the past year, e-brothers of mine.

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal June 12, 2009, 02:50:24 AM
Oh man, that would have made our encounters so much easier. Forget the forest fire, we'll just smoke 'em out...

witch hunters: can you guys, like, just leave the villagers alone?
goblins: I dunno man
witch hunters: aw c'mooooooooon
goblins: well...
witch hunters: I got cheetos
goblins: dude, deal!

And no one likes the dragon because he keeps bumming drags and eating all the food. Have you ever seen a dragon metabolism on ganja? It ain't pretty. They wind up raiding the whole countryside for sheep then pass out for the next century.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 12, 2009, 07:53:03 AM
:lmao

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic June 12, 2009, 10:04:26 AM
Oh, man, you do NOT want to see Nym have a bug-out.  When he bugs out, he BUGS OUT.

: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 12, 2009, 10:10:25 AM
Hope I'm not around when that happens :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal June 12, 2009, 08:46:37 PM
We seek the mystical white castle and the treasures it holds... rumoured to be able to satisfy the cravings of any man or beast.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 12, 2009, 08:50:11 PM
We,re planning a road trip to wermont to eat both at white castle AND big kahuna burger, gonna do it soon :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 13, 2009, 07:14:46 AM
Awesome :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 13, 2009, 02:45:04 PM
I'll get back on track monday, I'm resigning my lease tommorow and i need to clean my whole gigantic house, been at it for 2 days.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 13, 2009, 02:58:01 PM
Is cool, good luck :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho June 15, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
I'm going to be gone from this afternoon to late tomorrow, won't be able to post if my turn comes up.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 26, 2009, 01:27:19 AM
Hey, had to organise parties here for la st-jean and my friend's birthday, sorry, will post xp's and Jumdee value soon.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 26, 2009, 06:04:26 AM
Loot! :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 27, 2009, 05:30:06 AM
Leveling up. Should I get the Ghost Touch or Shock property from Thayan Gladiator's Imbue Natural Weapon class feature?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar June 27, 2009, 10:02:12 AM
IMO ghost touch > shock.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight June 27, 2009, 02:03:59 PM
There's something strange...in the neighborhood...who you gonna call...
I ain't afraid of no ghosts!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw June 27, 2009, 02:15:36 PM
Definitely Ghost Touch.

Finished leveling up myself as well :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 03, 2009, 04:16:53 PM
bump :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 03, 2009, 07:44:56 PM
well is everyone leveled, and do you want me to skip to the ending, and your post mission briefing, as well as an intro to next mission, or want to search around a bit, maybe have a chat with the dragon?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v July 03, 2009, 10:36:52 PM
well is everyone leveled, and do you want me to skip to the ending, and your post mission briefing, as well as an intro to next mission, or want to search around a bit, maybe have a chat with the dragon?
I haven't leveled... I'm taking that level of crusader though.
I'm on vacation been for the past week back on Monday.
One thing i dont' understand is the jumdee stones or whatever? ! What has LING LING wrought!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 04, 2009, 12:19:03 AM
Well, since tehre are little to none institutions that the HarrenDaen'kar deal with that sell magic items, they have been forced to come with an alternate method of procuring the tools to defeat their opponents.

These are the Jumdee crystals.  WHenever a witch hunter defeats a foe, he can take part of it's life essence and power and shed it into a gem, a jumdee crystal.  Those crystals can them be melded into weapons by shapers to augment their powers.  The stronger the creature you kill, the more value the gem, so the goblin wizard was worth well over 3000 gp of value in gems.

In game terms, the jumdee crystal are worth a certain number of GP value, that you just have to take to a shaper so he can imbue them, it is known among witch-hunters that you  can also request your pay in Jumdee, or pay debts among each other with appropriate Jumdee.  Outside the HarrenDaen'kar thought, Jumdee's are worthless.  So you could have a Witch-Hunter who is Broke, but has some pretty powerful weapons at his disposal, because he invests a lot in Jumdee, and not enough in money.

If you need more explaining tell me.

Ling ling is able to extract JumDee because he is an incarnate user, and this is an incarnum ritual.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v July 04, 2009, 02:32:19 AM
 :D No no... thats awesome.

Reminds me of Devil May cry! LOL

So I'm good for that level of crusader then? I'm open to suggestions/advice. ( I think Tylunth shuold eventually get Ling Ling to teach him that disapearing trick LOL!)

Edit: How's the other campaign coming with all the "paladin harren daen'kar"
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal July 04, 2009, 06:05:06 AM
Ergh, sorry been busy renovating my new house. I've barely been on the boards at all and have just been too tired to post much.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight July 05, 2009, 02:57:24 AM
Loot? Woot!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic July 05, 2009, 09:07:26 PM
Sorry for being so idle recently.  Family members are having some problems in RL, and I need to focus on helping out.  I'll try to be more active ASAP.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 06, 2009, 03:41:40 AM
Yeah, that's why i was letting it go, i figured you guys needed a time off or something, and I'm working out the details of the next hunt in my mind.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v July 06, 2009, 05:03:13 AM
Yeah, that's why i was letting it go, i figured you guys needed a time off or something, and I'm working out the details of the next hunt in my mind.
After battle Lull...  It happens...

Well at least we all intend to play still, patience friends patience. Soon we'll be hunting mage again!  ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 06, 2009, 05:45:11 AM
Yeah, that's why i was letting it go, i figured you guys needed a time off or something, and I'm working out the details of the next hunt in my mind.
After battle Lull...  It happens...

Well at least we all intend to play still, patience friends patience. Soon we'll be hunting mage again!  ;)

And until that time, it's time for a little shopping spree :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight July 06, 2009, 01:23:54 PM
Return to base (Y/N)?

-->Y

Edit: I also think the money from the masterwork short swords and mithril chain shirts should go to the NPCs as their share.

36 x 310 = 11160 / 2 = 5580 for MW short swords when sold
18 x 1100 = 19800 / 2 = 9900 for mithril chain shirts when sold
5580 + 9900 = 15480 or 5160 to each of them.

Then we can more easily justify splitting the jumdee crystals among just us PCs. 90K split 6(?) ways is 15K. I already know what I want.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 06, 2009, 07:20:21 PM
Being the rescued, they will most likely agree to this.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Nodaisho July 07, 2009, 04:16:18 AM
How much did we get from the druids and wolves we killed in the ambush? Is that included in the 90,000gp worth of jumdee crystals?

I need to level up, I didn't realize that we had gotten enough XP to level again. At least, I'm assuming I need to level up, since Ling Ling did.

edit: Nevermind. Just read the game thread.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 07, 2009, 06:00:20 AM
90 300 gp to be precise, so 15 050 gp each.
 
Not bad :)


I'll get some ideas for toys up later today :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v July 07, 2009, 09:36:04 AM
Wait so are we to level up or not?  ???
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 07, 2009, 01:37:32 PM
Well just add up your exp ;) 
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v July 17, 2009, 01:59:59 AM
Okay everybody... where are you.   :eh
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 17, 2009, 03:04:20 AM
I'm ready if you guys are.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 17, 2009, 05:38:13 AM
Yeah, I'm still here.

Just waiting 'till we arrive at our base to report about our mission and shop for some new toys :D
Or do you guys want to do anything special on our journey back home? Some more RP or any random encounters or something?

I'm open for anything, really :)


In before 'that's what she said' :P



: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v July 17, 2009, 05:54:29 AM
So wait we're all just here waiting to see if someone decided to post something?

 :lol the hell.

"yo mamma jokes" - owned by surreal. Dayum.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight July 17, 2009, 12:03:51 PM
So here's a question: if a weapon is both vicious and merciful and merciful is active, is the self-inflicted damage from vicious non-lethal?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 17, 2009, 12:04:59 PM
Why would you want a merciful weapon? :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 17, 2009, 02:49:46 PM
Buh, guh, duh.... no, it's not.... I'll rule with that for now...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight July 17, 2009, 03:12:06 PM
Why would you want a merciful weapon? :P

Makes interrogation easier if they're not dead.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 17, 2009, 03:13:51 PM
True. But still, Merciful, for the motherfucking Wolverine? :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 21, 2009, 04:04:17 AM
Btw, as a resume of the mission, i accept: ''i tell him everything that happened''

I'm mostly concerned about what you'll say about the unseelie court.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal July 21, 2009, 04:13:56 AM
Ack, sorry, I've been out all day. Tomorrow isn't much better, but I'll try to sneak a post in...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight July 22, 2009, 11:58:48 AM
[spoiler]Karaoke :D




:lol[/spoiler]

Don't make Logan bust out the Pokérap!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 22, 2009, 12:13:32 PM
hehehehe that was the first thing that came to my mind too ! :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 24, 2009, 05:55:16 PM
so aside from karaoke and shopping, anyone has something special  they want to do during R&R??

If not, I'll just move on to chapter THREE of the thorny trail!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 24, 2009, 06:11:59 PM
Sorry 'bout my lack of posting. I'm willing to post some R&R fluff posts if the rest is willing to participate as well. If you guys think that'll take too long I'm fine with starting with chapter 3 as well.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 28, 2009, 04:08:32 PM
I'l give 3 more days to post some fluff and finish buying your stuff (tell me real fast what stuff your buying if at all possible, and after that im starting chapter 3.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 28, 2009, 04:11:15 PM
Oh right, gotta buy some toys...

Almost forgot about that :P


EDIT: Here's what I've got so far:

90 300gp
15 050 gp each
3000 gp worth of jumbee crystal each (pay)

Total 18 050 gp each


Ling Ling:
- +1 enhanment on Kukri: 2000 gp
- Anklets of Translocation: 1400 gp


I'll fill in the reaming 14 440 gp later tonight or somewhere tomorrow.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight July 29, 2009, 12:54:09 PM
MIC p.234 is my hero.
Adding +4 Con to Wolverine's belt for 16,000 and enchanting his uniform(body slot) to be a "Uniform of Protection+1" for 2,000. It will have an "X" on it that will grant some mystic protection. The belt will also now have an "X" on it which grants increased vitality.

During the 16 days it takes, he lives freely in the nearby wildness, taking 10 on Survival for a 16 for just about everything basic. Go Go Primal Living class feature!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 29, 2009, 04:57:42 PM
I lolled at surreal's fluff ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 30, 2009, 07:20:26 AM
:lol

:clap


That was brilliant, Surreal :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 30, 2009, 12:20:19 PM
Tylunth is on a boooaaaaaaaaat motherfucker!!!

I'm interested in caelic's and wek'tcha's stories...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v July 30, 2009, 12:26:14 PM
Tylunth is on a boooaaaaaaaaat motherfucker!!!

I'm interested in caelic's and wek'tcha's stories...

 :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight July 31, 2009, 04:42:51 PM
Tentacles? So our new enemy is Omega Red?
[spoiler](http://www.benshore.com/images/omegaRed.jpg)[/spoiler]
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 31, 2009, 05:33:11 PM
Keeping with the X-Men theme I see  :lol

Maybe I should paint myself blue, get into the Telflammar Shadowlord PrC and call myself Nightcrawler :P

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 31, 2009, 05:43:42 PM
THEY'RE MIND FLAYERS!!!!!  HOW IS THAT X MEN RELATED !!!!! :P

aside from.. you know.. tentacles...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw July 31, 2009, 05:46:03 PM
Omega Red, like SDK mentioned ;)

Also, I'll get a list of items ready somewhere tomorrow :)


: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v July 31, 2009, 06:11:31 PM
Oh right, gotta buy some toys...

Almost forgot about that :P


EDIT: Here's what I've got so far:

90 300gp
15 050 gp each
3000 gp worth of jumbee crystal each (pay)

Total 18 050 gp each


Ling Ling:
- +1 enhanment on Kukri: 2000 gp
- Anklets of Translocation: 1400 gp


I'll fill in the reaming 14 440 gp later tonight or somewhere tomorrow.
So we have 18050 each.
How much Xp did we get?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 31, 2009, 06:39:40 PM
Exp:6600 for ECL 10  7350 for ECL 9
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v July 31, 2009, 06:51:28 PM
Exp:6600 for ECL 10  7350 for ECL 9
Thanks dude, you're the best.  ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar July 31, 2009, 07:00:02 PM
I know I know, but really, your mom keeps telling me that all the time, don't start that too.....

 :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v July 31, 2009, 07:10:37 PM
I know I know, but really, your mom keeps telling me that all the time, don't start that too.....

 :P

 :twitch   :rollseyes   :lol
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 03, 2009, 11:33:59 AM
I think Nodaisho mentionned why he was absent, anyone remembers.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight August 03, 2009, 04:24:20 PM
I think Nodaisho mentioned why he was absent, anyone remembers.

The last thing I remember him saying was he had to level up his character.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 03, 2009, 04:40:06 PM
Hehehehe, that sounds like an excuse for not going on a date.

Like: oh, i can'T go out with you on that day, i have to level my character.

Anyhow, post in the in game thread, god damn bunch of runts ! :P

I have technical difficulties at work, so i'm stuck doing nothing ... :(
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw August 03, 2009, 04:55:41 PM
Okay, got my gear sorted out:

Total 18 050 gp + 1 020 gp (money I had left after character creation): 19 070 gp

- +1 enhanment on Kukri: 2000 gp
- Anklets of Translocation + Boots of Striding and Springing: 6900 gp (combined using MIC rules)
- Ring of Entropic Deflection: 8000 gp

16900 gp total
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 03, 2009, 04:58:58 PM
Good :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw August 03, 2009, 05:30:36 PM
Finished updating my sheet :)

Man, that thing is a monstrosity :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal August 04, 2009, 03:24:52 AM
Sorry, long weekend here. Will try to update stuff tomorrow.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 10, 2009, 11:08:25 AM
So, you guys still reading this?

I think nodaisho and caelic are on hiatus thought.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw August 10, 2009, 01:00:56 PM
Yeah, I'm still here. Kinda waiting for the others to post some stuff, or for you to send us on our way.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 10, 2009, 01:16:53 PM
Well, last time we had some 2 pages of questions before venturing out.

I kinda thought more than 1 person had them.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight August 10, 2009, 01:21:11 PM
There's your question. :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight August 10, 2009, 06:43:02 PM
Illithid is such a fancy word. Squid-face would have worked for Logan. :)

GenCon is this week, and I'm attending. So go ahead and move us to wherever-it-is-we're-going. Logan will stay quiet and let you guys handle the talking. I'll be back Monday, so try not to pick a fight by then. (looking at you, Tylunth and Ling-Ling) :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 10, 2009, 06:55:11 PM
Hahaha, alright, have fun there ;)

I'll wait a bit to see if surreal or midnight V seem to have some questions, then assume the whole group follows suit.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v August 10, 2009, 11:59:24 PM
So, you guys still reading this?

I think nodaisho and caelic are on hiatus thought.
FUck yeah! I'm just dragging my feet buying gear.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal August 11, 2009, 04:42:30 AM
Argh, sorry I've just been so busy lately, so it's been hard to get into a writing groove. I'll toss something up real quick...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 19, 2009, 02:01:57 PM
So yeah, i understand why surreal is busy, but where's everyone else?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight August 19, 2009, 04:27:16 PM
<--did his civic duty.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 19, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
Indeed you did!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v August 19, 2009, 11:02:44 PM
We've been working on starting that new gaming company. . . sorry.
I'm off the next couple days. I still want to play this game. So I'll be making some long posts
the next 3 days.
BTW thanks for offering your world as a setting. You are most excellent.
-M
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw August 20, 2009, 06:45:38 AM
I am still here. I'm kinda waiting for someone who's more adept with words and diplomacy to deal with the captain. Ling isn't really a people person or the talkative kind ;)

And agreed with M_v :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 20, 2009, 03:20:20 PM
Awwww, you guys are making me blush ;) :P :embarrassed

So yeah, let's wait till at least surreal, caelic or nodaisho is back before moving on
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal August 20, 2009, 06:37:21 PM
Heh, none of us are really the talking type are we?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v August 20, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
Heh, none of us are really the talking type are we?
Tylunth is actually...
He the damn smiling devil...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 21, 2009, 05:57:56 PM
SDK, what does the feral template give please?

Just curious.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight August 22, 2009, 12:32:04 AM
Here's more than you need, even enough that you can use it yourself.
Feral:
[spoiler]Type: (Humanoid, M. Humanoid) -> M. Humanoid
HD: racial HD -> d10 (none in this case)
Speed: Land +10ft
AC: +6 or base creature; whichever is higher
Attacks: gain two claw attacks (1d8 medium) if you don't have them
Special: (1+ HD) Improved Grab (4+ HD) Pounce (8+ HD) Rake (12+ HD) Rend. If base creature has same ability, use better version.
Special Qualities: (1-7 HD) Darkvision 60 ft (8-11) Darkvision 90 ft (12+) 120 ft Darkvision; (1-3 HD) Fast Healing 2 (4-7 HD) Fast Healing 3 (8-11 HD) Fast Healing 4 (12+) Fast Healing 5
Abilities: +4 Str -2 Dex +2 Con -4 Int(Min 2) +2 Wis
CR: (1-3 HD) CR+1 (4-7 HD) CR+2 (8-11 HD) CR+3 (12+) CR+4 (a flat +2 is probably more appropriate)
Treasure: 1/2 coins, standard goods/items
Level adjustment: +1 (yeah, it's undercosted)
[/spoiler]
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw August 22, 2009, 07:39:47 AM
Just a note, the Special Attacks are based on monster/racial HD, while the Special Qualities are based on HD in general IIRC.

A bit funky really...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight August 22, 2009, 08:53:11 PM
Just a note, the Special Attacks are based on monster/racial HD, while the Special Qualities are based on HD in general IIRC.

A bit funky really...

I've seen it ruled a couple ways, but mostly that way, yes
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 23, 2009, 12:08:56 PM
HD = HD in my game, so you can keep your rend stuff :)

(I am of the school of thought that easy and powerful LA's are ok for fighting types, since your fighting mages)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 23, 2009, 12:35:36 PM
Just realized:  with a -6 racial mod to intel.  Logan is racially retarded.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw August 23, 2009, 05:50:09 PM
Just realized:  with a -6 racial mod to intel.  Logan is racially retarded.
Jup, he's special :lol
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight August 23, 2009, 11:14:46 PM
Yes, he is above average for his race with an Int of 6.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar August 25, 2009, 05:46:19 PM
if you guys want to read about another Hunter team, the thread is in min/max it.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight August 26, 2009, 12:06:34 AM
if you guys want to read about another Hunter team, the thread is in min/max it.

Offered an additional tweak option for the thrower.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight August 30, 2009, 01:44:01 PM
Yeah, I know. Logan made a bad joke. But not intentionally: he is being serious!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 01, 2009, 01:24:54 PM
Soooo.... what do you guys want to do?

I mean, i feel like i'm playing with SDK and Bowen alone here, and all they have are one liners  :P

Seriously, should i just proceed with assumptions on what you guys want to do?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v September 01, 2009, 02:36:56 PM
Soooo.... what do you guys want to do?

I mean, i feel like i'm playing with SDK and Bowen alone here, and all they have are one liners  :P

Seriously, should i just proceed with assumptions on what you guys want to do?
Just give me 1 ... more... day!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 01, 2009, 04:38:38 PM
deal ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw September 01, 2009, 05:05:14 PM
"Ling Ling want karaoke and used panties" isn't really good conversational material :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal September 02, 2009, 04:34:46 AM
Sorry. Distracted by girl. Will try and post tomorrow.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal September 03, 2009, 07:21:08 AM
Sorry. Still distracted. My typing hands have been occupied...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v September 03, 2009, 12:36:43 PM
I posted the first part of tylunths view flashback of what was missed I hope to get it all done today. So now theres some insight to why the smiling scary guy has been so quiet of late.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw September 03, 2009, 03:31:38 PM
Sorry. Still distracted. My typing hands have been occupied...
Lucky bastard :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Caelic September 04, 2009, 03:03:31 PM
Sorry I've been so scarce lately; with school starting back up, I just don't have a lot of free time.  Will try to post as time permits.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 04, 2009, 03:05:25 PM
Is cool :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw September 04, 2009, 03:25:02 PM
Sorry I've been so scarce lately; with school starting back up, I just don't have a lot of free time.  Will try to post as time permits.

This goes for me as well, just FYI :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight September 05, 2009, 02:42:24 PM
Sorry I've been so scarce lately; with school starting back up, I just don't have a lot of free time.  Will try to post as time permits.

This goes for me as well, just FYI :)

We'll just have to 'bear' with it, Bowen.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal September 05, 2009, 05:25:41 PM
Yeesh, it's Saturday? I've, uh, kinda lost track of time... :whistle
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight September 08, 2009, 01:25:59 AM
Here's that part where a character with at least 10 Int suggests we do something clever and cunning.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal September 11, 2009, 02:39:14 PM
Argh, the boards have been really spotty for me. This is the first time I haven't gotten a blank screen in a couple days. I gotta run back to work, but I'll make a real quick post...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw September 11, 2009, 06:26:03 PM
Same for me, had a couple of white screens the last two days or so.


Gotta say I like the idea for the 'Bestiary' :)
Are the stats in that section considered in-character knowledge as well, Alastar?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 11, 2009, 06:42:38 PM
Same for me, had a couple of white screens the last two days or so.


Gotta say I like the idea for the 'Bestiary' :)
Are the stats in that section considered in-character knowledge as well, Alastar?

Since you fought most of them, and they used pretty much everything agaisn't you, yes :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 25, 2009, 04:13:49 PM
Yaaaah, this game is in a down right now ... :)

It's not the same without Caelic :(
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw September 25, 2009, 04:20:39 PM
Yeah, I guess we've all been rather busy in real life.

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 25, 2009, 04:24:57 PM
Bah it's ok.

You guys still think this storyline is fun?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw September 25, 2009, 05:10:17 PM
Hell yes :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v September 25, 2009, 06:07:18 PM
Bah it's ok.

You guys still think this storyline is fun?
yes and please don't stop...

My life has just been sucking lately. . .
I'd tell you all whats going on but, no one wants to hear me whining I'm sure.
I read this everyday I just havn't powerd up to write anything. I want to get back to where I can write tylunth stuff all the time.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 25, 2009, 06:40:52 PM
Bah, the game's not going anywhere for now, Ill just wait till you guys are less busy with your lives to keep going, so you might as well tell us midnight.  We've all had our moments we didn't feel much, and while telling it to the others here isn't as comforting as telling it to a woman hugging you, it can still help :)


I actually have a plan to write a pilot comic book out of the world and you guy's characters, I don't know if I'll get takers for it, but I though it'd be fun to try :)

: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v September 25, 2009, 06:52:39 PM
My mother and little sister are in jail. My little sister was before she's 15 she got involved in an armed robbery with her best friend and her best friends older brother... Now I'm 30 and I have no juristdiction over this type of thing I'm nowhere around them hell we don't even talk and with good reason. Shit like this happens. I'm hated by my main family for being a "bill cosby" if you don't know what that means its tantamount to being called a sell out or not black enough cause I don't smoke weed or sag my pants basically, fuck I listen to bjork, and audioslave more than I listen to Lil'wayne... though it bs cause I listen to Murs anyway. But moreso its because I'm on the personal responsibility platform not the pity party platform about ideas. . .
I want to ... I want to "Solve everything" and it really stresses me out.
Anyway... uhm... so lil'sis gets out of jail (win's the case basically she was forced to participate at gunpont but my point is that said circumstances should not have existed in the first place)
and 4 days later gets into a fight with my mom. Obviously a fist fight, but I'm certain my mom hit her first *(Mom like that) but she was probbably trying to get sis to NOT do more stupid shit.... but once children have started playing the adult game there's no turning back and she doesn't recognize that. Not to say that she's... somekind of saint but she did good for me by being hard, the whole time I grew up. I guess she got tired after that.
So they both went to jail for a domestic dispute, ahhhh, Texas....?
So while It doesn't directly involve me... and I KNOW I'm not responsible for this or any of the messes they get themselves into...
It bums me out.
I'm one of those "I can fix the world people" Tools check. . . know how? Check. needs resources
I give you permission to use tylunth as much as you like in your comic as I know logan can't be wolverine you might as well have the
Axe Crazy
Scary Black guy
Just don't kill him or Worf effect him... please, thank you tv tropes.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 25, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
Yeah, I was thinking of changing logan a bit, new name and different style of fighting but not too much, so I don't violate copyright.  Also, change some names so their not obscure references to random sci fi stuff.


Out of curiosity, how many of the names did you recognise?


And it really sucks for your family man, maybe you should go there and talk to them?  It's not your fault, but it doesn't mean you can't be there when they need you.  Talk some sense into them crazy women :P

I'm a 6'10'' irish guy who passes out after drinking 10 beers, I can feel you about the rejection of your peer things :(
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight September 26, 2009, 03:06:27 AM
So what kind of fighting style does logan redux have?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar September 26, 2009, 03:33:32 AM
Forearm single blades, attached to his arms not fused :P  Still trying to find a way to explain the regen without threading on copyrights ^^

The attitude will stay though, but he'll either have dreads or a mohawk, and he won't be using words like ''bub''
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal September 27, 2009, 03:10:43 PM
Dude, MV, sucks to hear about your family. Hope things work out soon.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight September 27, 2009, 07:40:29 PM
Forearm single blades, attached to his arms not fused :P  Still trying to find a way to explain the regen without threading on copyrights ^^

The attitude will stay though, but he'll either have dreads or a mohawk, and he won't be using words like ''bub''

He heals by licking the blood of his enemies, maybe?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw September 28, 2009, 07:24:35 AM
Forearm single blades, attached to his arms not fused :P  Still trying to find a way to explain the regen without threading on copyrights ^^

The attitude will stay though, but he'll either have dreads or a mohawk, and he won't be using words like ''bub''

He heals by licking the blood of his enemies, maybe?

Maybe something akin to a Barghest's Feeding ability, only with healing instead of gaining HD?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar October 14, 2009, 06:52:39 PM
I'm gonna focus on the whole soul magic thing in that, work in progress for now.


Tell me when you guys feel like getting back into it.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw October 15, 2009, 07:09:11 AM
Ready whenever you guys are :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v October 15, 2009, 01:32:24 PM
Fuck its my weekend and I dropped that damn mathed class...
time for some hardcore gaming...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar October 21, 2009, 08:08:42 PM
I need a dedicated four players before I can resume, so if surreal and SDK are available, it's kewl, or if caelic or nodaisho come back, it's also cool.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal October 21, 2009, 09:09:01 PM
I'm here, just been bogged. Issues with my tenants and trying to make mortgage payments.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar October 21, 2009, 09:09:27 PM
Yah, no hurries man, just tell us when you can ! :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v October 22, 2009, 11:48:07 AM
Okay lets do this.  :smirk
Did you decide on that prc I was requesting?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw October 22, 2009, 01:54:08 PM
Still lurking :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight October 23, 2009, 06:59:42 PM
Bring it on!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar October 25, 2009, 03:51:30 AM
Surreal, seriously, i gotta ask...

WHY be a half elf??  Like, It's been over a year, and goddamn man, WHY i can'T see why!!!

Please tell me it's like TORTURE!!!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal October 25, 2009, 04:34:36 AM
For the ranger sub levels to gain urban tracking and to get gather information as a class skill in order to qualify for Bloodhound early.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 06, 2009, 06:49:29 AM
So, uh, how about that local sports team eh?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 06, 2009, 07:46:16 AM
Yeah, they won 3-0 last week, not bad...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 06, 2009, 08:08:29 PM
so, what is you guys plan, cause, if you start waiting, i can easily skip a month ahead, with you guarding the outpost, would that be ok?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 07, 2009, 07:16:31 AM
That's fine with me, assuming we don't have a time restriction on this mission. The thing is, I'd prefer not to follow those things into their home territory where they have the advantage...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight December 07, 2009, 03:03:41 PM
A month ahead, sure. And three words for when they attack again: giant pit traps.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 17, 2009, 07:25:11 PM
Kewl, unfortunately, it's one month ahead and nothing happened, will post description tommorow.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal December 24, 2009, 11:58:41 PM
Merry Christmas and/or whatever holiday you celebrate at this time of year. Please don't trample anybody during boxing day.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 25, 2009, 01:14:42 AM
Same to you surreal, and same to all of you guys.

I'm so going to buy myself some underwear at zellers on boxing day...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 25, 2009, 06:59:21 AM
Merry Christmas, guys :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v December 25, 2009, 07:44:52 AM
Merry Christmas, guys :)
Merry christas to you all.
M
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight December 25, 2009, 09:00:39 PM
Merry Christmas to all and to all some XP?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 25, 2009, 09:19:58 PM
Oh, what the hell, all of you add yourselves 1000 exp, and merry christmas!!!!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 26, 2009, 08:57:41 AM
Sweet :D
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 26, 2009, 12:03:55 PM
if anyone says ''this is the best christmas gift EVER'' it means our lives are sad ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw December 26, 2009, 01:05:16 PM
:lol
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar December 26, 2009, 01:15:40 PM
''so what did you get for christmas?''
''a razor, 5 books, a bathrobe, a video game, the inglorious bastard dvd, AND ONE THOUSAND EXPERIENCE POINTS IN MY PBP GAME!!!''
''kewl!! .... wait what?''
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v January 05, 2010, 01:23:00 PM
Oh, what the hell, all of you add yourselves 1000 exp, and merry christmas!!!!
Dude! This is just what I wanted! Best gift EVAR!  :clap
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight January 05, 2010, 02:46:29 PM
I say we do the hunt. As a bonus, we'll have red shirts with us.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 05, 2010, 02:59:33 PM
The ugly girls are team number 5, meaning they're older and better trained than you at number 11. :P

But yeah, I'm not about to handle 6 npc's as well as two monsters, so I'll probly do some separate fights for each team.  The monsters are pretty beastly enough as it is...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v January 06, 2010, 12:36:49 PM
The ugly girls are team number 5, meaning they're older and better trained than you at number 11. :P

But yeah, I'm not about to handle 6 npc's as well as two monsters, so I'll probly do some separate fights for each team.  The monsters are pretty beastly enough as it is...

Omfg.... Claymore. Rank # 5 and all that.
Okay so we've moved on from this stuff has happend back home. So should we head home or stick this out?
Suggestions?
Who all's here?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 06, 2010, 01:51:59 PM
Well, it's not as direct as claymore, as in, You start with the highest number there is, for exampls, you guys started out as team 16, but as the teams lower than you die, you move up in rank, wich makes you team number 11 now, meaning 5 teams of lower rank than you have died. 

You might be better than them, but at number 5, they just have a lot more successful missions than you under their belt.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 06, 2010, 02:02:38 PM
Let's hunt :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight January 08, 2010, 02:04:47 PM
Anyone AWOL posting-wise will have Fort duty(?). I see Bowen, Midnight, Surreal and myself...anyone else want to hunt?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v January 09, 2010, 01:50:25 AM
Anyone AWOL posting-wise will have Fort duty(?). I see Bowen, Midnight, Surreal and myself...anyone else want to hunt?
*Shrug* slim pickens eh brother?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight January 12, 2010, 05:00:11 PM
[casts Summon Caelic I] ... Wow, he hasn't posted since September.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 15, 2010, 09:03:23 AM
I love those in-character posts, Surreal. Another one that made me :lol
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 15, 2010, 01:15:02 PM
hahahahahahaa

indeed :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight January 15, 2010, 02:10:56 PM
You are all being assigned nicknames by Logan as he thinks of them. :P
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal January 15, 2010, 02:54:46 PM
Over the course of several PbPs, I've found I tend to be more of a comic writer, especially writing for other PCs. Seems kind of backwards that I always make serious characters for myself. Maybe next time I should just be a bard or stick to comic relief.

[spoiler]LingLing: "I'm not even a humanoid, but it sure is cozy in here..." :P http://www.imagepoop.com/image/1543/Kitten-In-Some-Cleavage.html[/spoiler]
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 15, 2010, 03:29:34 PM
Nice :D


:lol
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v January 16, 2010, 06:34:50 PM
 :lmao Cozy indeeeeeed!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar January 17, 2010, 02:12:36 PM
The witch hunters have a long standing history of irony in their team names.

Borask is anything but savage
And Captain Samoval'S ''Old Boys'' are always fresh recruits :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal January 18, 2010, 07:39:16 PM
I don't think the Wolverine is your ideal choice for a backrub...

On the other hand, Wolverine has got to be one of the *ahem* busiest heroes in Marvel (right after Hercules and She-Hulk). Ok, so a lot of them wind up dead afterwards, but still...

Oh, and just as a bonus: http://www.bamkapow.com/13-hottest-women-wolverine-has-slept-with-1474-p.html
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw January 30, 2010, 09:28:08 AM
Say Alastar, how do you make your maps? I'll be DM-ing a PbP pretty soon, so I could use a good and simple map-making program :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 01, 2010, 09:20:48 PM
I think we are about ready, Alastar. Time to write up an encounter and send us on our merry ways...say, Friday? That way Surreal can sneak in an inspirational speech or just more witticism before we go.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar February 01, 2010, 10:44:58 PM
Yah sure,jsut been... i dunno... disconnected these days, I will have something written, probly for tommorow.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight February 26, 2010, 03:30:52 PM
So have you given up on this game, Alastar, Surreal?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 02, 2010, 11:10:55 PM
I'm still here...
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v March 06, 2010, 09:02:28 PM
+1
 ;)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw March 07, 2010, 01:08:59 PM
+2 :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Midnight_v March 08, 2010, 10:49:45 PM
We're here but we've honestly been way too sporadic to run I'd bet. Its hard work and when one or more players vanish without so much as a brb, I'd imagine it'd get frustrating which sucks because I think this is such a great group... and it has all my favorite posters in it!  :bigeye  :bigeye

Dammit! Prioritize! Whats 15 mins a day really cost!
lol
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight March 17, 2010, 02:50:23 PM
Heck, what's 15 minutes a week cost?
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal March 18, 2010, 03:31:10 AM
Well it seems our DM has gone MIA...
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: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight April 05, 2010, 08:47:21 PM
Even so, Happy Early Birthday, Alastar!
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Alastar April 08, 2010, 05:39:11 PM
awwww so sweet.

YEah I've been MIA.

Kind of a down very vegetative point in my life, i get those every winter it seems :) :P

I'M back now, gotta fuse back into the mold, and i'm kinda dissatisfied with my storyline, I'll try to update once I think a bit more about where i'm going with this, sorry for the wait everyone, i feel like an emo angsty artist.

: Re: out of Character Talk
: BowenSilverclaw May 09, 2010, 06:32:01 PM
I'm back as well, and still interested :)
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 10, 2010, 12:32:19 AM
*poke*
: Re: out of Character Talk
: skydragonknight May 11, 2010, 04:41:40 PM
Option: if trying to figure out everything that was going on months ago is too much of a hassle, we could "reset" things to the beginning of a new mission and go from there. Far better then letting this interesting group of warriors die off.

I say this because as a former DM, trying to sort things out from a long absence is quite a hassle, and if that's the problem then it's something that can be worked around by a simple reset.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: Surreal May 12, 2010, 12:04:07 AM
I'm open to that possibility. Alastar still seems to be MIA however.
: Re: out of Character Talk
: PhaedrusXY May 13, 2010, 11:58:32 AM
I'm open to that possibility. Alastar still seems to be MIA however.
He logged in last night.

May 12, 2010, 05:35:41 PM

Come out, you lurker! You can't hide from us!  :D

I was enjoying the Way of the Wizard game too, even if we did have a bit of absenteeism.