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As the title said:
- 3.5 game.
- Novice PbP DM (but not novice DM in general).
- Good aligned campaign.
- Starting level is negotiable (within 3-10 range).
- Stats generation negotiable (I generally give 1d8+10, if you want an indication of stat level).
- Optimisation level... don't get killed. It is permanent. You won't need the uber-charger/Initiate of Mystra nonsense either (I hope...). This campaign was aimed at 4 gestalted PCs.
- This adventure will have an M-rating for themes and scenes.
The following 3.5 WotC "books" are allowed:
- SRD
- Spell Compendium
- the 8 Completes
- Races of Stone/Wild/Destiny/Dragon
- Dragon Magic
- Dragonomicon
- ToB
- MiC
- Frostburn, Sandstorm, Sotrmwrack
- Heroes of Horror/Battle
- Lords of Madness
- Libris Mortis
- Mini Handbook
- PHB II
Playable PC races are as per PHB and MM.
There will be some house rules. Please look at here (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=1001.msg25973#new) for a more in depth description.
In particular, the following applies:
- New Mechanic: Casting Difficulty Rating.
- Class Changes: Barbarian, Cleric, Druid, Paladin, Ranger, Sorcerer.
- Spell Changes: All listed.
Other rules:
- Spiked Chain is a double weapon, not a reach weapon.
- All relevant divine casters that normally know all spells period only automatically get all the spells in the PHB. They can learn spells from other sources at 2/level starting at level 1.
- Dread Necromancer and Beguiler has a Eccletic Learning variant as per Warmage.
This is probably not exhaustive. I will post more as I remember or realise them. I am not trying to be malicious. I do tend to forget things and if I do, please do let me know.
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As a novice PbP DM, chances are, I would run it more like a tabletop game. I am used to my players doing off the wall things to me, so usually I can adapt. I do ask that if you do fool around with the NPCs, please do not do so with the plot integral ones. That is, no bedding the married, plot integral woman and bust up her marriage to the staid and zealous paladin just because you can.
One last thing:
Don't expect all Red Dragons to be Evil, or Gold Dragons to be Good. Doesn't work that way with my games.
Also, don't expect all chainmails to be AC 5, MDB 2, or londswords to be 1d8, 19-20/x2 damage, either. Some are better, some are worse. Hint: Craft and/or Appraise might be important...
Lastly, not all magic items are masterwork.
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Now, the world:
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"A cataclysmic war shattered the world thousands of years ago. The oldest surviving texts claim that it was a war between the mortal races and the races of demons and devils. The mortals won, but at a terrible price. Isolated by great walls of purplish fog, each landmass (a misnomer since some have areas of oceans larger than actual land) evolved its own culture, but the people did not forget the time before the great catacylsm when the world was whole. Eventually, great portals were created for travel between the landmasses and for a time, trade flowed and the landmasses grew prosperous.
But, as was the normal state of affairs between the mortal races, greed, hate and fear gained sway. Within twenty short years, war once again erupted across the shattered world. It would be a war that would last three hundred years. One by one, the great portals fell, destroyed by the warring armies even as they destroyed one another. It was carnage and destruction on a scale unparalleled even by the Demon Wars ten thousand years ago.
Our landmass was no different. Orcs fought dwarves and elves, gnomes hunted kobolds, goblins and humans fighting anyone they could lay their eyes on. The hobgoblins and the bugbears marched against the charges of centaurs. And the dragons looked down on us from their lofty perches and laughed at our folly. The war ended with the destruction of the great portal at Ephemera. With its loss, our landmass was no longer connected to the rest of the world. There were no one left who knew the secrets of creating these great wonders of a bygone age. One by one, the leaders of the warring armies realised that they fought only to extinction. Even the winner would not survive the wild beasts and dangers of a land blasted and mutated by the great magicks of war. One by one, they ceased aggression, and the foundations of peace was laid.
The once warring armies came together. Orcs, Elves, Dwarves, Humans, Halfling, Kobold, Gnome, Hobgoblin, Bugbear, Goblin, even the Centaur and the Goliath. And they built a great symbol of their unity. Ephemera, City of Hope.
This was a thousand years ago. That is the story of our beginning. It is a story a thousand years in the writing. A story that you, my students, will continue."
- Reverend Elder Mrinythrax Ortholonx, in his first annual lecture on "History: Our Ancient Past", to the first year students of the University of Ephemera
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Choose your characters, but please make them affiliated with the University in some way, and also to stand out in some way. This would be a good time to dust off your Indianna Jones concepts ;)
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Interest!
**Waves hand!**
I particularly like gestalt, but I'm cool with normal, too. All I need is a starting level, a hard ruling on stats, and whether you're thinking gestalt or no.
If there's a particular role you'd like filled or a general KIND of tactic you might want to see in play, lemme know.
Can't wait to start building PCs! Lemme know the details and I'll get you some options right quick!
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This looks interesting--I especially like the idea of changing stat ranges to make Craft a cool skill. I'm in two PbP games already and considering a third, so I need to think on it first.
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If there are not enough people, we can go gestalt. If there is enough, then we'll go single class. What are your preferrences for starting level? I am flexible in that. I just have to change the monsters you face, but that is easy as far as I am concerned.
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I. Am. In. Like. Flynn.
Starting at at least 5th level would be nice. 'Cause I hate low levels.
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OK, then. Let's go gestalt.
I have a call for level 5. Any other offers?
Also, any offers for stats generation?
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This sound extremely interesting.
I'll have to read up on the Gestalt Rules (and probably get some suggestions one good gestalt combinations)
If you'll have me, I'll join.
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More information:
Brief Geography
Ephemera City sits on the northwestern tip of a large landmass. It is a big city of over 2 million, mainly humans. It also has a relatively large population of goblins, hobgoblins, halflings, orcs and bugbears. Other races also have a presence here. It is surrounded by ocean to northeast, north, northwest, west and southwest.
To the south and southeast is a large plain, and to the west is the Iderwild forest. Within the forest is Illidrin, the Shimmering City, the main population centre of elves (including a number drow). This is a temperate mixed forest. Exact number are not known, but the estimated population of Illidrin is about 150,000.
A major coastal road connects Ephemera to the fishing village of Carnos. In between, tribes of centaurs roam and there are small settlements of orcs and goblinoids who have kept their old tribal ways. These settlements are generally, if not friendly, then at least not hostile. Just outside Carnos to the east is the largest concentration of halflings, the settlement of Riverrun on the banks of the Arnos River. Population of both: 65,000.
The coastal road continues south and turns east to the foothills of the Rockspire Mountains and the gates of Ironhold, the underground realm of the dwarves, kobolds, gnomes and goliaths. Population of Ironhold is in the region of 500,000.
As can be seen, most of the population is centred along the coast. The central part of the landmass is a mix of plains and forests and is home to a large variety of wild beasts, both normal and magically mutated. Tall impenetratable mountains cover the entire eastern side of the landmass. It is not known how far these mountains extend before hitting the wall of purple mist that surrounds the landmass.
A note on the purple mist: No one who has ever gone in there has ever come out again. People have tried everything including tying a rope around their waist and going in. The rope inevitably goes slack once the person is out of sight. No one knows what happens to the people that wanders in there, whether they get lost and starve, or whether they get transported to another landmass or they get turned inside out.
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This sound extremely interesting.
I'll have to read up on the Gestalt Rules (and probably get some suggestions one good gestalt combinations)
If you'll have me, I'll join.
The more the merrier, Dan2. Have a go at it.
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This is definitely tempting. I'd like to try out a Sorc, Wondrous Item crafter, or perhaps a Factotum type of build--right now I'm leaning towards the latter. I sort of hate following the Factotum Warblade idea I saw going in the Skies of Arcadia campaign, but it's a damn nice bit of INT synergy.
As for levels, I like something starting around 3 or 4--enough to have a few cool tricks, but also not as complex as starting at 11 or 12. 6 is about the highest I'd feel comfortable starting at, since I want to get a feel for my character.
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No Factotum. Sorry, PFH. Magic of Incarnum is not in the list. It's just that I don't have the book and I don't think I would become comfortable with it in the relatively short time we have available before game starts.
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I notice that the setting prefers humans and human-looking races. Would you be willing to use the Shadowcraft Mage adaptation for non-gnomes?
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I think you misunderstood.
The Ephemera setting is open to almost all races in the PHB and MM (as mentioned there are at least 12 races working together to build the city).
You are thinking of the Legends setting (King Arthur and all), which is very different (it is low magic for one). I am only referring to Legends so that I don't ahve to retype all the house rules that are already in there. Only the rules and changes mentioned in this thread will apply (for example there is no LN Paladins or the Knight PrC in Ephemera).
Also, when I said SRD, I meant the Psionic and Core parts of it, not the Unearthed Arcana parts.
My apologies for not being clearer in this. There are so many things I take for granted as I am just so used to them.
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The question still stands. :smirk
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The question still stands. :smirk
No :)
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Notes on gestalt (since we seem to be going that way):
- No dual progression classes (this includes Unseen Seer, Abjurant Champion, Slayer, Arcane Heirophant, etc.)
- You *can* have 2 PrCs at the same time, but each can be applied to one side of the gestalt only. You can't have 2 mage PrCs when you are a Cleric//Mage base, for example, but you can have both a Cleric and a Mage PrC (like Church Inquisitor/Elemental Savant, for example) at the same time
- Your BAB, base saves, etc., would be the better one of the sum total of all your classes on one side compared with the other side
Otherwise, gestalt would be the same as in UA.
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Factotum = Cityscape, not Incarnum. Though I see that's not on the list either, now that I checked.
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Just a minor note, Factotum is actually in Dungeonscape...
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36 point buy for stats? If you want rolls, I'd suggest 4d6 drop lowest - 10+1d8 generates meh stats, I find, and point buy gives more control.
I'm thinking of a Swordsage 5/Cloistered Cleric 1 + Walker in the Waste 4. Fun style - a sort of desert mystic with power over heat and cold, light and darkness. Wheee!
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Some quick questions (as he busily stats up his character):
1. Flaws? Traits?
2. Final call on stat-generation?
3. You allow Complete Psi - does that mean the Expanded Psi Handbook is okay too?
Working up some ideas - good fun! Looking forward to playing something stylish!
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I'd also like to request a point buy system.
I've always preferred it to rolling.
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I prefer 18 + 1d10 drop lowest.
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Also, how are we doing hp?
Rolls, average, max?
Sorry to bug ya.
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I did see you didn't like UA, but would it be all right to use an alternate class feature? All I want is the Monk school that gives Power Attack at 1st - I have a build that will work MUCH better with it. It's a staff-wielding martial artist who hits and kills with one strike - very cinematic and fun!
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Are we all full already or is it possible to join?
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Janus - I think Walker in the Waste has a non-Good prerequisite, and because this is a Good-aligned campaign, I don't think it works. The theme behind the Walker in the Waste is also a bit iffy in this setting (for a PC, anyways). You are supposed to be affiliated with the university, and they really won't like a few Dust Mummies running around. Would you be able to come up with something else?
Expanded Psi is in because it is in the SRD, too, IIRC.
There wll be no flaws. Class variants are fine. They are basically just PHB classes with a bunch of alternative class features. That is no different from the bunch of alternative class features in Races and later books.
Dan2 - Max first level, roll or average after that.
Tshern - The more the merrier. It just means I can have fun throwing in more stuff too. Being PbP I don't think I will have a problem with more people since I would have the time to entertain everyone's ideas.
So, I have 1 call for 1d8+10, and 2 for point buy (36, and x?). Any others?
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Cheers! Awesomeness will ensue.
I'll vote for 1d8+10. Never tried that and it seems very nice. Can we still place the scores as we want or should we rather decide our classes after rolling depending on the stats? Too bad I suck at rolling attributes, so I'll probably get a nice array of 13s anyway.
Too bad Dred Necros can't be good. They must work wonders in gestalt campaigns too.
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Place scores as you want.
The Cleric//Dread Necro one of my players is using now is kicking bad guy rear all over the map. Spell Storing a Vampiric Touch on a DMM melee Cleric is nasty...
Also, level 5-6 starting is the requested range so far. Anyone else?
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You can be neutral, though: just a desert mystic with a long beard and ninja-riffic powers. That was going to be my take on things. No need to make dust mummies just cause you CAN, either! Neutral is balanced - he'd be all about fire and ice, heat and cold, dark and light - in other words, a sort of meditative monk type. Very philosophical.
I can do something else if you really want me to.
I think you misunderstood NiN, by the by - he was joking. He proposed 18 + 1d10 drop lowest.
I like 36 pt buy. More if you're feeling generous. 10+1d8 tends to have the potential for either AWESOME or very meh stats, and that seems a bit unfair to those who roll badly.
DMM is always overpowered. It's almost unfair to other builds, honestly. You can't, however, persist Dread Necro spells using it - it only works on divine, not arcane. My other gestalt char is persisting Druid AND Cleric spells with it, though, since both are divine - it's pretty awesomely gross!
I like 6th. More fun once you get that 1st level in the PrC you've been dying to pick up, you know? Loads of options that way.
Dunno what you have planned, but I'm hungry for combat. Seems like PbPs never get around to brawls!
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I'd love to start somewhere above 5th.
My only play experience in the 8-12 range is a short campaign (2 sessions).
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AndyJames: That's neat, way more flexibility and artistic freedom. And I can see the might behind that combination since neither class is exactly underpowered or anything.
Also, I vote for level 6.
JanusJones: I think the game has good alignment as a prerequisite. Perhaps it is just the tendency of this campaign though. I do agree with your WitW flavour in spite of that, actually I have played a relatively benevolent WitW who was searching for the last temple of his god in a desert and couldn't leave the place before he was ready. Eventually lichdom became his only chance to continue living.
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I tend to think Neutral fits in with anybody - they have their own reasons for doing things, and are friendly and can work with any party if it suits them. I think the mistake many people make is thinking that alignments proscribe what kind of friendships you can make or why you might do something - a neutral character (heck, even an EVIL one!) might be very happy to help his friends defeat evil - because he likes his friends and he likes loot. I tend to think of evil in a good group like Belkar in OOTS - he's a jerk, but he's THEIR jerk, and he generally does what everybody wants him to and helps the party out.
But, like I said - I was thinking neutral.
6th would be good fun. I'd love the opportunity.
Hope we can pick a fight RIGHT AWAY!
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We can just start in a huge brawl!
And I agree with neutral characters suiting pretty much all groups. It's a matter of flavour and having a good reason to stick with the group is not that hard to come up with. Heck, creating a common story for two or more characters can be fun too.
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You can be neutral, though: just a desert mystic with a long beard and ninja-riffic powers. That was going to be my take on things. No need to make dust mummies just cause you CAN, either! Neutral is balanced - he'd be all about fire and ice, heat and cold, dark and light - in other words, a sort of meditative monk type. Very philosophical.
I can do something else if you really want me to.
I think you misunderstood NiN, by the by - he was joking. He proposed 18 + 1d10 drop lowest.
I like 36 pt buy. More if you're feeling generous. 10+1d8 tends to have the potential for either AWESOME or very meh stats, and that seems a bit unfair to those who roll badly.
DMM is always overpowered. It's almost unfair to other builds, honestly. You can't, however, persist Dread Necro spells using it - it only works on divine, not arcane. My other gestalt char is persisting Druid AND Cleric spells with it, though, since both are divine - it's pretty awesomely gross!
I like 6th. More fun once you get that 1st level in the PrC you've been dying to pick up, you know? Loads of options that way.
Dunno what you have planned, but I'm hungry for combat. Seems like PbPs never get around to brawls!
LoL! You are right. He was. I misread it :-[
You don't persist DN spells with it. You persist all the Cleric ones (Divine Might, Righteous Might, Divine Favour, etc.). Then you put the DN Vamp Touch into the Spell Storing greatclub. Then you add Spikes and Greater Mighty Wallop. Then you hit someone with it. Hard.
I personally don't like PB because you tend to end up with high stat, high stat, high stat, 8, 8, 8. But if you guys don't mind it, 36 point buy it is.
As for alignment, my take is simple:
Compassion, Sacrifice, Humility = Good
Honour, Honesty, Justice = Lawful
The tone of the entire landmass is that everyone helps everyone else out as much as possible. I'm not saying greed and pride doesn't exist, but the circumstances of their founding means that they tend to work together more and be far less prejudiced than the standard DnD protrayal of the races. If I have to peg the general alignment of the landmass as a whole, I would put it at borderline NG.
Janus, you can play the Walker in the Waste, but be warned that Ephemera is a temperate grassland/forest region. There is no actual waste, and I can't remember if any of the WitW abilities trigger off that (AFB right now)
Let's set the start level at 6. Standard wealth. No one item can be worth more than 50% of total wealth.
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JJ, I have a NE character who fits your description fairly well. He might even be more N at this point--if he can get loot and riches without having more enemies along the way, why not? =P
As to my own concept, still pondering. I don't want to do another gish cause that seems to be all I ever end up trying. I like the flashy style of mixing melee badassery with the steamrolling that is magic. So, decisions. Gnome Druid might be fun. I'm sort of at a loss since I don't have a lot of DnD experience, and none whatsoever with Gestalt games. I do kinda like the idea of a Gnome or Halfling turning into a raging Dire Bear though.
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So 36 PB it is or are we allowed to pick our poison? I might be willing to gamble, but I can do with PB as well.
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Let's keep this 36 PB so that everyone is on the same page.
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Damn. I really wanted to do a gish, but doing it with a gnome just seems kinda silly if the -morph spells are nerfed. Hmm. Thinking, thinking, thinking.
Always thinking.
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Cool, no problem. Do we lack a certain sort of a character in the group? I might be willing to give Beguiler a go, but if there is something we need or you guys simply want, I am all ears.
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I'm still trying to come up with a class combo that grabs me. I love the flavor of a wild halfling, straw and branches in his unkempt hair, who's charmingly naive and easy to get along with, but turns into large raging animals when the "big folk" decide he's an easy mark for mugging.
What goes well on the other side of that? Cleric is an obvious choice...
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Just remember that you need to be affiliated with the university. A feral halfling might not be a typical guy you'd find in a university ;)
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I could be the regional Botanist. Maybe one of their keynote speakers on the subject. :D
That said, I'm unfamiliar with the class, so I need to figure out how the house rules affect it. Casting Difficulty doesn't look to be much of an issue (does it kick in when in an animal form?), it's mostly the Wildshape thing (Animal Companion I could honestly sacrifice completely if it became an issue). How have Druids worked in your campaigns so far?
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Only Druid I had went into Master of Many Forms, so I can't tell you, PFH. The polymorph and animal companion nerf basically meant that most people avoid it in reaction.
SCD (Spell Casting Difficulty) kicks in whenever you are in armour. So, if your animal form is wearing barding, you will incur it. Otherwise, you are in the buff, so you don't run into it.
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I'm gonna smoosh together an abjurer and a swashbuckler build (Int to damage)
I'll probably use a spiked chain, but perhaps not. Depends on the group.
Also, is the percent the DC? I read your post in your link, and didn't quite get it...
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SCD basically works like this:
Take Leather Armour. It has a ASF of 10%. So, your base SCD DC is 10. If you want to cast a level 4 spell (say Orb of Force), then you have to make a DC 14 Concentration check to cast it successfully.
Conversely, if you are in Full Platemail, the base SCD DC would be 35. Then, you add your spell level on top of it (or DC 39 for the above Orb).
If you are wearing Mithril Full Platemail, the base SCD would be 25.
If you are a Bard, you can ignore SCD altogether while in Light Armour.
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so, if I were to cast in light armor with an ASF of 0, I'd still have to make a concentration check of the spell's level?
and is this in addition to or replacing the spell failure chance?
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It replaces ASF. And no, if the base is 0, then you don't have to make any checks.
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Awesome!
One Wizard/Warblade coming right up!
I just read the flavor text a little bit more carefully...
No wizards and no Elves makes this build a lot harder to pull off...
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Wrong flavour text :) That one is another setting altogether (Legends setting). I referrenced to it so I don't have to type out all the House Rules all over again. Only the parts mentioned in the post in this thread is relevant.
Elves and wizards exist in Ephemera.
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Oh... (phew) ok. That makes me a lot happier.
I was excited about playing this guy.
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AndyJames, are you still recruiting?
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Yes, definitely. It will always be on recruiting. I don't mind more people joining, and the university thing makes adding new players easy.
I might have to disappoint a few people and move it back to normal instead of gestalt, given the number of people, but I don't mind either way. The beauty of DnD is that I can always replace Lizardmen with Minotaurs and Imps with Hezrous if need be :D
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Well when you have an initial party selected (gestalt or not) let me know. :D
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Wait - no gestalt? Boooo!
Not sure if we're doing 6th now - call?
And yeah, I'd love starting on a battlefield, in a brawl, in a dungeon - in medias res, as it were. There's been entirely too much talking and not enough blood being flung in most of the PbPs I've seen - meh,
So here's a fun option:
The Meditant - Level by Level Progression
1 - Decisive Strike Monk (Overwhelming Attack School) 1/Warblade 1: Power Attack (Monk 1), (1st), (human).
2 - Cleric 1/Warblade 2: Travel Devotion (travel domain), Extra Turning (undeath)
3 - Psychic Warrior 1/Warblade 3: Psionic Weapon (Psychic Warrior 1), (3rd)
4 - Psion 1/Warblade 4: Psionic Meditation (Psion 15 - Psychic Warrior 2/Warblade 5: Deep Impact (Psychic Warrior 2)
Explanation: Based on a build here, this guy is martial arts coolness personified. He carries a quarterstaff which he carries and wields like a greatsword - I may even have him simply pick up sticks wherever he goes and use Craft to make his own, just to prove what a badass he is. In combat, he first activates Travel Devotion as a free action to gain an extra move. He then moves to his target, expends psionic focus, and strikes using Power Attack, Deep Impact, and Decisive Strike, dealing 2d6 + (3 x Str mod) + 15 (power attack). One hit, one kill. Next round he refocuses with his spare move and does the same, provided there's a foe close enough; if not, he'll refocus, use a move to close with another foe, and strike using a martial adept strike (Emerald Razor for another touch attack, Mountain Hammer, Battle Leader's Charge - what have you). If a foe is seriously far away, he'll move twice before striking. Still have some free feats and am debating what to do with them - Up the Walls would be pretty cinematic, Combat Expertise would allow for a defensive option - the possibilities are endless. He might be a scholar of esoteric combat who is doing research on ancient scrolls in the stacks. Not ranged, which is annoying, but **shrug**.
Here's another fun little gem:
Air Goblin (provided it's allowed - they're the only PLAYABLE goblin race out there!)
1 - Barbarian 1/Feat Rogue 1: Point Blank Shot (1st), Precise Shot (Feat Rogue 2)
2 - Swordsage 1/Warblade 1:
3 - Swordsage 2/Fighter 1: Shadowblade (3rd), WP Finesse (Fighter 1)
4 - Warblade 2/Feat Rogue 2: WP Focus - Dagger (Feat Rogue 2)
5 - Warblade 3/Fighter 2: Far Shot (Fighter 2)
6 - Master Thrower 1/Bloodstorm Blade 1: Improved TWF (6th)
Charge, chucking 6 daggers a round, dealing Dex to damage. Be sneaky and funky and have fun.
Technically, he's actually a bit underpowered (read: NOT a caster!). I'd be better off with a DMM Cleric or whatnot.
Hey - how do saves work for this? I also might do a Master of Shrouds/Swordsage (or the Walker, of course!), which would be good fun, but I'm not sure if I know how mixing classes on one side of the gestalt will affect saves. If we're doing partial saves, no Master of Shrouds for me, and it's not really worth it if you have to wait till level 5+ to get into it.
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Aftercrescent - The initial team is already there :)
Janus - You add up the base saves for one side of the gestalt and add up the other side. Compare Fort with Fort, Ref with Ref and Will with Will. Take the higher of either. So, if on one side you have 5/7/5 and the other side you have 6/3/9, your base saves are 6/7/9.
Same with BAB.
No partial saves or BAB, please.
For now, start level 6, gestalt. There is 4 of you (5 with PFH). I can cope with that.
Oh, and stick to PHB items for starting eq as much as possible, please. Certain things from the MiC like Belt of Healing is OK, but please try to avoid the likes of Belt of Battle.
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OK. Aftercrescent is going to open us a child forum for the game. We can move all discussions of class and whatnot there. If anyone else is interested, just come by and give us a shout. Alternatively, there is always private messaging.
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Alright. I'll take a bit to come up with a build as I'm in two PbPs already, but primarily because I need to figure out what I want to do. Got an Artificer in one game and a gish in another--combine that with minimal experience actually playing and I have a bit of a head-scratcher.
Did we decide if Factotum is allowed? It's a lot like a base class version of the Chameleon; spend your Inspiration points (regained per combat) to decide if you're doing some healing, sneakery, arcane spell slinging (based on Factotum level, max of 7th level spells), or fighting. The most powerful ability is the one that lets them spend 3 Inspiration points to get an extra standard action, which I think they get at 8th (?).
It's an INT-based class, and the casting doesn't provoke spell failure, so I'd probably pair it with something like a Beguiler or a Warblade.
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No. It is not from a book on the list.
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I may see what I can do with a Chameleon, then, or maybe a Bard/Fochlu-quiche type of build. I've a yen for a more flamboyant character. :smirk
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Fochlucan Lyrist is a dual progression PrC (actually it is a quad-progression one, but who's counting after 2? :D). It is not allowed as per gestalt rules.
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At what point should we be ready with our characters?
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I may see what I can do with a Chameleon, then, or maybe a Bard/Fochlu-quiche type of build. I've a yen for a more flamboyant character. :smirk
Bard/Crusader with Song of the White Raven and Dragonfire Inspiration is always fun!
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At what point should we be ready with our characters?
I am ready to start when you guys are. Say Sunday/Monday (NZ time, +12GMT)? Or do you need more time?
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I'm pretty much set.
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I can manage my stuff out by then. Tomorrow is going to be a quiet day at work, so I'll try to finish my character then if at all possible.
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This is assuming AfterCrescent gives us our child board :P
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I am stymied. So many possibilities! Any thoughts on what people would LIKE to see from me?
. . . I mean, I **could** always do a DFA . . . it does seem to be what folks expect from me, nowadays . . .
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I am stymied. So many possibilities! Any thoughts on what people would LIKE to see from me?
. . . I mean, I **could** always do a DFA . . . it does seem to be what folks expect from me, nowadays . . .
This is an excellent idea! Unless you wish to do a DFA I could actually make one. However, I don't want to step on your turf if you actually considering making one.
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Hmm...I'm still thinking as well. What roles do we need filled? I mean, I appreciate that it's a gestalt game, but we do have a lot of people still working on pinning down builds.
I just don't want to do another gish because it seems to be all I ever try. I don't have experience with Druids, so I'm not really comfortable trying it out with the Wildshape variant.
Unless something occurs to me, I may just have to sit this one out in favor of focusing on my other games.
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Don't worry about having to be super optimised. I mean I have run this setting with two guys and two cohorts before (all gestalt). One of them is a Warlock//Scout, and another a Favoured Soul/Dragonheart Mage//Sorcerer/Dracolexi. And they are played with player Wis 8, no tactics, etc.
Just play what you want. I am generally good enough that I can gauge your party ability and not engineer a TPK. Generally...
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Don't . . . optimize?
Does not compute. :D
I like gestalt, though - it allows for a lot more creativity and some really fun character concepts. Are environmental racial variants cool by you? Or Silverbrow humans from Dragon Magic? Trying to make my guy.
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Don't . . . optimize?
Does not compute. :D
I like egstalt, though - it allows for a lot more creativity and some really fun character concepts. Are environmental racial variants cool by you? Or Silverbrow humans from Dragon Magic? Trying to make my guy.
Don't *super* optimise. Savvy? :P
No. Just the guys from the PHB and MM, please. The only exception (that I can think of) is the Races of Dragon web enhancement because that can be applied to the base Kobold out of the MM.
You can add the Draconic template to your character to get your dragonblooded subtype. There is no restriction on that, but note taht since Unearthed Arcana is out, so is LA buyback.
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Gotcha. That helps - venerable Dragonwrought Kobold it is!
I'm having fun with a truly draconically flavored caster. Good times!
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Seems I keep running into the problem of coming up with ideas before checking sources, so: is a Strongheart Halfling or possibly a Whisper Gnome Beguiler/Warblade kosher? Could fit the general feel I'm trying to go for.
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Just the basic ones. Whisper Gnome is from Races of Stone, so it's out. Strongheart Halfling is from FR, so taht is out too.
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Dang, was looking at the "races of" part instead of the bit about PHB and MM. Forgot Strongheart was FR, thought it was RotW.
I'd love to be one of the small folk for flavor, but the human feat is hard to give up. I'll take another look and see if it's still worth it.
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Yeah - near impossible to do anything to top that, for sure. Dragonwrought is about the only thing worth it.
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Just note the lack of Epic Handbook ;) No Epic feats, please :D
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Looks like I'm set up to be trapmonkey...complete with d12 HD, good Fort and Will saves, and Battle Clarity for my Reflex saves. :D
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Wizard/Warblade here. Just trying to decide on the basic tactics.
DM: Will there be leveling over the course of this game, or is it a short adventure?
What I'm lookin' at at the moment:
Level Class 1 Class 2 Feat(s)
1 Wizard 1 Warblade 1 Spell Focus, Earth Sense, Scribe Scroll
2 Wizard 2 Barbarian 1 (Lion) 1
3 Wizard 3 Stoneblessed 1 Greater Spell Focus
4 Wizard 4 Stoneblessed 2
5 Wizard 5 Stoneblessed 3 Heighten Spell
6 Wizard 6 Warblade 2 Earth Spell
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You're not the only Wizard/Warblade...
It looks like we're going in very different directions though...
Level Class 1 Class 2 Feat(s)
1 Abjurer 1 Swash 1 Spell Focus, Scribe Scroll
2 Abjurer 2 Swash 2
3 Abjurer 3 Swash 3 Combat Reflexes
4 M.Spec 1 Warblade 1
5 M.Spec 2 Warblade 2
6 M.Spec 3 Warblade 3 Vexing Flanker
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Yep, sufficiently different for me!
I sense an Initiate ...
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You'd be right...
I'm also going for some pretty heavy Int-abuse.
At level 11, I can garner 3x Int added to my damage for one creature type one encounter/day
2x Int on damage for everyone else.
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Hmm...Dan, mind if I ask how you're pulling the INT synergy? I'm going with a Beguiler//Warblade with a dip into Mindbender on the casting side, and perhaps some Fighter or Crusader on the melee half.
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Swashbuckler 3 gives a very common Int-to-damage
Warblade 7 gives Int-to-damage when you're flanking
Adaptable Flanker + Spiked Chain = Ability to flank with yourself
Eternal Blade gives you Int to damage for one monster type
Collector of Stories + monster knowledges to go with the EB.
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I just really want to pounce with the white raven maneuvers. I'm thinking wraithstrike or bladeweave , rage, charge!
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LoL! This would be fun.
Yes, there will be levelling. It would be slow, but there will be.
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Swashbuckler 3 gives a very common Int-to-damage
Warblade 7 gives Int-to-damage when you're flanking
Adaptable Flanker + Spiked Chain = Ability to flank with yourself
Eternal Blade gives you Int to damage for one monster type
Collector of Stories + monster knowledges to go with the EB.
You planning on adding Knowledge Devotion to that? It dovetails well with Collector of Stories (by a reasonable interpretation). It's not an extra INT, but it's up to 5 more damage *and* attack.
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So here's my character sheet (missing a few things like maneuvers and hp).
Tomas Evan McGuin (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/view.php?id=70470)
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As fun as a Beguiler//Warblade sounds, I'm gonna have to withdraw. Both of the other PbPs I'm in are picking up, and I need to start brushing up to DM another.
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OK. I have just reminded AC for a child board. We'll start when everyone's got their character sheets in there. Say by Friday? Or do you guys need more time?
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Friday's fine by me...
Also, I won't be able to do anything over the weekends until school starts again. (August 20 or so)
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As fun as a Beguiler//Warblade sounds, I'm gonna have to withdraw. Both of the other PbPs I'm in are picking up, and I need to start brushing up to DM another.
If this would leave a spot open, I'm interested.
Seems as if you lads could use a trapfinder/social dude.
So my though is something like Fighter 4/Bard 16//Scout 4/Ranger 6/Dervish 10 (could naturally be more optimized, this a preliminary concept)
with Snowflake wardance, dervish dances and stuff.
A social dancer with plenty of skills, including wildlife knowledges and with an deadly fighting style.
University connection, something like a biologist with an interest in getting down and dirty for the sake of knowledge, but who enjoys a good social event when he gets the time.
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As you can see, I'm already ready for Friday. Muwa ha ha.
And stuff!
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Ephemera has a sub-forum now...
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Shadowhunter - There is no fixed number of players in the game, so if you want to join, just go the the forum and post your character concept there, I guess. Note that it starts at level 6, and might take a while to get to level 7, so a level 20 build is not going to happen for a good long while.
Dan2 - Yes it has :)
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Enjoy the game :D