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General Gab => Off Topic Fun => In the Media => : Cubey November 20, 2010, 11:45:08 PM
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Okay, more like one purpose: talk about anything SRW-related.
I'll start by reposting my SRW L impressions from the Gaming thread.
But because I am not a cheapskate, I won't only copy-paste, I'll add in stuff from three missions more.
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Guess who got his hands on SRW L!
So far, this game looks really, really good. Nuts to any pre-emptive criticism people might have had. The interface is really easy to work with. Setting up supports and figuring out hit chances on map attacks was never so much fun. Graphics and animations are really cool - not only for new series, even old ones have new animations. And almost every unit has a dynamic kill on its strongest attack.
Surprisingly enough, there are no parts to equip. There are, however, pilot parts that increase the pilots' stats and abilities. I didn't reach so far to use the partner system yet, but my hopes are high. Likewise, dunno about difficulty yet. The first stages were not too difficult, but not a piece of cake - you can lose if you are very careless.
Spoilered plot impressions!
[spoiler](http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/1.png)
Mission 1 is Macross Frontier! VF 25s cannot enter Gerwalk mode as a seperate unit, but they use it for attacks like Ozma here presents. The Valkyrie Fighters are VERY good in this game. Lots of defensive abilities (shoot down, sword cut, pinpoint barriers), AND strong attacks.
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/3.png)
Also, for some reason Voltes is working along SMS. It has a lot of HP, and its attacks are very damaging. V-Slash has the base of 5200 damage and requires only 45 energy, making it moderately spammable. Ozma's hissatsu is ~4500 base damage, in comparison, while the VFs' missiles are ~3500 and the gunpod is 2500. Just to give an estimate of how spread damage values are in this game.
Second mission brings us Macross Frontier pilots that weren't present in the first one:
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/2.png)
Konig Monster! Yes, yes, YES. I've been waiting for this. Kanaria, you are awesome.
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/4.png)
Klan's Pixie Squad Attack! That's right, Nene and Lalamia are in this game, and they already had more lines in one interlude than in the whole Frontier series. And Klan herself kicks ass too. Forget jobbing, that was canon. This is better than canon.
The second mission is the one where Luka gets his shotariffic butt eaten by a Vajra capital ship and they have to rescue him. They're running kinda fast through Frontier's plot, aren't they? Frontier folded towards Earth, by the way, which means another series is introduced:
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/5.png)
SEED Destiny! I get Shinn and his friends, as well as Minerva. Apparently in this game we play from ZAFT's perspective like in Z, rather than Kira's like in K. Very, very good. We also had a small interlude earlier when the Gundam Jackers... well, jacked the Gundams. But it was not interactive.
Impulse is not as good as the VFs. Its strongest attack deals only 4050 base damage, and the spammable one is at ~3000. Of course, we know Shinn gets an upgrade. The ZAKUs are predictably weaker. Amusingly enough, Lunamaria's beam tomahawk attack reminds me of Getter Q from MX. She throws the axe and then twists it in the damaged robot.
Also, Brera. But shh. We're not supposed to know who he is yet.
After the mission, we have Ranka singing in the Zentradi ghetto mall (I told you, Frontier's plot moves fast here) with the Destiny folk watching, so I guess they joined in with SMS. But I cannot upgrade units now so the plot moves to other people's POV now. What will happen later? It's a mystery.
EDIT: A few extra comments.
No protagonist yet. He'll probably appear in the next mission, along his robotic maid sidekick.
Nagisa from Iczer-1 is hanging around Frontier, for some reason.
Mikhail's sniper rifle attack looks different whether the mission takes place in space or atmosphere. I hope it's the case for others too.[/spoiler]
PART TWO!
I familiarised myself with the partner system. As expected - it took the best parts from OGS and K and consolidated them into one good system. Lack of parts makes it harder to mix flyers and non-flyers, but some units have squad bonuses of "everyone gets A in this or that environment" so it helps.
Also, I noticed dodging drops as you receive more attacks in a round. To make dodge tanking riskier, I guess. This may become very annoying later in the game. On the other hand, it may help dealing with bosses, too.
Plot spoilers!
What we had before was the prologue. Real numeration starts now.
Mission 1
[spoiler](http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/6.png)
We start with our MC! And his assistant, as this picture shows us. She's totally not Nia from TTGL. She is robot maid Nia. That's triple the moe.
They live in the house of a mad scientist that creates robot maids and actual giant robots. He also made a set (robot and maid) for the MC's rival, but he ran away when trouble has risen. Jerk.
And what was that trouble? Linebarrels plot. The bad guys are attacking and... well, I don't really know Linebarrels. But the series' MC is rogue at the moment and attacking both sides. And then...
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/7.png)
Bang! Dancougar Nova to the rescue.
It's a pretty damn cool unit. Strong and tanky, with 4 pilots. Too bad you don't get to keep it yet.
Rushbird isn't halfway bad either. In fact, it is pretty awesome, if the lack of a really strong hissatsu suggests obvious upgrades later. And I really like its theme. It is upbeat and energetic.
Lastly, this scenario has the local SRW asshole, Wufei from Gundam Wing. He is an enemy, so you can do this.
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/8.png)
Beat the crap out of him. Beautiful.
And also, I get supporting characters from Linebarrels to join me, but I didn't take any really awesome or amusing pictures so not much to say here.[/spoiler]
Mission 2
[spoiler]Time for people you recognize from SRW K. Kenji trains using Jeeg with the help of people from his canon and the Mazinger Z cast. And by help I mean they shoot missiles at him to make him focus harder. Harsh. And then the bad guys attack.
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/9.png)
I'm pretty sure this cut-in of Kyo is new. Tsubaki gets one too, which she didn't have in K. But other than that, Jeeg has only small visual changes since the last game. A bit disappointing, but it's a cool series so I don't mind too much.
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/10.png)
Mazinger has the Mazinkaiser plot here, so everyone looks appropriately over the top and insane. Excellent.
Predictably, Mazinger Z as a unit is not too hot (because it gets upgraded later. To what? Hint: it's in the series title), and Venus A is a support unit. Boss Borot though? Surprisingly powerful offensively. Boss can't take a hit without keeling over, so it's more like a glass cannon.
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/11.png)
Okay, I'm pretty sure Jeeg Bazooka didn't have a dynamic kill, so that's one big change. It still kicks ass, just like the Jeeg Drill which you unlock this mission. Still, considering stats of units that joined so far, VFs from Frontier are really, really good. Can't wait to have them back.[/spoiler]
Mission 3
[spoiler]
STOP!
Space alien lesbian robots!
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/12.png)
Yup, we're having Iczer-1 plot. Iczer herself isn't too strong at first but she gets an upgrade in a plot event later this mission and gets to keep it. So it's all good.
Other than evil space alien lesbian robots (as opposed to good ones like Iczer), we have Mimetic Beasts for enemies here. That means Godannar, right? Well, Godannar and...
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/13.png)
Combattler V! Choudenji Yo-Yo time. Its stats are pretty similar to Voltes's, unsurprisingly.
But you know what? Even though it's old Combattler that we all managed to get bored of 5 times over... somehow, in this game it's kinda cool. SRW L made Combattler cool. The world is ending or what?
As for Godannar...
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/14.png)
Mila is in the Okusauer now? Does this mean we are starting BEFORE Godannar's plot? Weird.
Speaking of Okusauer, it kicks ass now. Angel Barrier was meh in K. It rocks in L. Zero Gunner and Core Gunner are stronger, too. Dannar... well, it forms into Godannar so it's alright. The units have different looking attacks now - the changes are not super dramatic, but are bigger than Jeeg's.
Anyway, the Evil Robot Lesbian tries to squash Anna (who is still a schoolgirl at the moment if we're before Godannar's plot), Iczer goes "Nobody kills a cute girl on my watch!", she and Nagisa get a power up, Iczer-1 goes from meh tier to awesome. The main unit's shtick is teleporting/dimension hopping, apparently. Like Baldios or Zeorymer, but with more yuri.
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/15.png)
And here's Satoru, one of the three Linebarrels supporting pilots. Since he added cannons to his unit, it totally does not look like a Schutzwald (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/srw/og1/ptx-004.jpg). No sir. Not in the world.
Post-mission, I check my unit list:
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/16.png)
And apparently Iczer-1 ditched her giant robot, at least temporarily. If G Gundam and Tekkaman Blade taught me anything - on-foot combatants always kick ass. ALWAYS.[/spoiler]
Overall, I am having lots of fun and cannot wait to see new missions. Blind runs, when you don't know what will happen next, are really fun in SRW. Even if you kinda forfeit secrets that way... but does anyone even know what kind of secrets this game has yet?
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For your viewing pleasure. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb9sOS66i2A)
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"I can see the numbers!"
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/Prime32_temp/Screenshots/exbein_screenshot.png) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WbMdNZRuYw)
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Holy crap, what an overpowered unit. Truly, Ryoto knows what he is pilotting.
Secrets to SRW L have been kinda discovered. If anyone is interested, let me know. I'm glad I can unlock almost everything on the stage I am at...
[spoiler]Except Yzak and Dearka in Duel and Buster Gundams. FFFFFF[/spoiler]
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Holy crap, what an overpowered unit. Truly, Ryoto knows what he is pilotting.
http://superrobotwars.wikia.com/wiki/PTX-EX_Exbein
lol at the suggestions "Shinji Ikari being manlier in the new movies is affecting everyone based on him!"
I'm curious why the Full Impact Cannon was listed as a default weapon for the Boxer. :p Does this mean no G-Sword Diver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw9V_l0CmSQ) though? :( And what is Ratsel going to pilot?
Since we've seen "KYUUKYOKU! GESPENST KIIIIICK!!!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcoMQ2ubyKs) what are the odds we'll get to see "KYOSUKE NO BAKA!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hbb3cNho5E)? :p
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Found a Youtube account with attack exhibitions for SRW L units.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnwswx3N3mA&feature=BF&list=ULh833uTMihBI&index=5
Also has cool remixes of XN Geist and Rail to the Dangerzone.
EDIT: *looks at Rushbird vid* When did Yuyuko Saigyouji become the pilot of Zeorymer?
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I didn't unlock the Zeorymer attack yet, so I am trying to avoid spoilers.
Do you mean Alice, though? She always had a Nia vibe for me, instead. Although Rushbird itself is a Yuyuko, since it literally eats up all non-physical attacks and uses them to regain energy.
Love its theme, too. It's just so energetic and upbeat.
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Right, so I'm playing Alpha Gaiden and I come across the VF-11B, wich presents some excellent stats and weaponry.
Yet, not a single pilot of mine seems willing to pilot it!
It's this the game laughing at me, or is there any way to quickly check wich pilots can pilot what that I missed? Or do I need to wait untill I recover more of my team?
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Okay, I see what you meant by Yuyuko now. I knew it'd become clear once I reach the appropriate stage.
And this attack is not only Zeorymer of the Heavens. It is Zeorymer of HELL! AND! HEAVEN! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w9UX_ZxAmA)
Coincidentally, Rushbird was created by GGG's mecha designer.
@Oslecamo:
All units can be pilotted only by people from their respective series (although Turn A and UC Gundam count as one series, for some reason lulz continuity!). So, look for Macross people - Hikaru, Max, Roy, Kakizaki or Millia. I don't think Isamu or Guld can pilot that, but if they do, good for them.
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OH GODS HE'S ONE-SHOTING MY SUPERS!
OH GODS HE HAS 100% CHANCE OF HITING MY REALS!
I'm of course talking about Sanger Zonvolt,the sword that smites evil of Magus in Alpha Gaiden, first apearance.
He seems to retreat at 60% HP and to have an ungodly amount of HP. Is there any hope I could take him down before retreating in my first walktrough, or should I just be glad I can make him run away for now?
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OH GODS HE'S ONE-SHOTING MY SUPERS!
OH GODS HE HAS 100% CHANCE OF HITING MY REALS!
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8137398&postcount=990
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Man, even if I'm not following the anime proper this scene is pretty awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3uzyNxaees)
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Oslecamo:
Alpha Gaiden doesn't even pretend to be a fair game. Unlike other SRWs, here just finishing the title is an achievement. So don't be worried if you manage not to do something on your first playthrough. No shame in that.
Coincidentally, I didn't find that game that fun. Not even because of the difficulty. It was a combination of two factors:
-Slow, clunky interface.
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-Showering you with a lot of units, but most of them sucking hard. There are SRWs where most of your units are usable in one form or another, and thus you are free to pick whatever you want for your squad. It may make the game harder, but it will at least still be workable. In @G, this is not the case. Go with the vanilla "winner" robots or be prepared to lose a lot.
So yeah. That's when the game lost me. Sorry.
@veekie:
Yeah, that was pretty awesome. Because it's Royal Heart Breaker, that's why.
Here, have an alternate version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz0nBQyWOsA)*. Archibald cannot believe it either.
* I bet you had this linked to you at least 5 times earlier, but whatever.
That being said, unfortunately I am getting rather disappointed with the anime version. We need more characterization! Sure, the Octo Squad appeared, but did they get any at all? They're just kinda there. Hell, even Ryusei is just kinda there. If you didn't play OG games before, you wouldn't know he is a colossal otaku (which is his main character trait) because the Inspector won't tell you that for sure.
But I ranted enough about this series on the manga/anime thread. Sorry to bring such negativity here. I promise I'll do better the next time.
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That being said, unfortunately I am getting rather disappointed with the anime version. We need more characterization! Sure, the Octo Squad appeared, but did they get any at all? They're just kinda there. Hell, even Ryusei is just kinda there. If you didn't play OG games before, you wouldn't know he is a colossal otaku (which is his main character trait) because the Inspector won't tell you that for sure.
I think The Inspector is supposed to be a sequel to Divine Wars, where Ryusei was the main character (and his otakuness was very visible). But Divine Wars sucked.
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-Slow, clunky interface.
A small price to pay for an AI that shows some signs of actual intelegence like focusing on weakened units, I say.
-Showering you with a lot of units, but most of them sucking hard. There are SRWs where most of your units are usable in one form or another, and thus you are free to pick whatever you want for your squad. It may make the game harder, but it will at least still be workable. In @G, this is not the case. Go with the vanilla "winner" robots or be prepared to lose a lot.
So yeah. That's when the game lost me. Sorry.
Oh well I prefer to look at it as a challenge.
"The enemy is attacking! Your main characters are all busy doing something else, so you must hold the line with a bunch of kids and children wich haven't leveled up for the last dozen mission! And they're all piloting crappy mechas!"
But well, I would be lying if I said I'm not deploying the best characters with the best stuff at every oportunity. :p
Also, it's Sanger's origin damnit! That alone is reason enough to endure this game's sadism!
That being said, unfortunately I am getting rather disappointed with the anime version. We need more characterization! Sure, the Octo Squad appeared, but did they get any at all? They're just kinda there. Hell, even Ryusei is just kinda there. If you didn't play OG games before, you wouldn't know he is a colossal otaku (which is his main character trait) because the Inspector won't tell you that for sure.
Well, as pointed out by Prime32, The Inspector is suposed to be a sequel, so characterization for those that really need it (the DC dudes, Shine, Shaddow Mirrors, Insectors).
Also, Ryusei had his chance in the spotlight. Now it's Kyosuke's team time to shine. I believe Beowulf made this very clear by curbstomping the SRX in the first episode. :smirk
And even then, once Mai starts piloting the R-Gun I believe the SRX team will get some more love. His main contribution to the plot is yet to come.
On the other hand, Ryusei hugged Latooni to confort her. So it's possible we're witnessing a character change!
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So, people.
I didn't quite finish SRW L yet, but I am on the penultimate mission.
This is a great game. It has its flaws but I am all too willing to forgive them. The mechanics are a vast improvement over SRW K, and the presentation is beautiful for a DS title. Especially Macross Frontier - so many themes, all of them great, and such great attack animations.
I like the originals too. They are a bit simple, both in terms of plot and mecha design, but there is beauty in simplicity. And their themes are just so fun to listen to.
Overall, possibly the best SRW handheld title. Or at least a strong candidate to that title.
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[spoiler](http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/SRW%20L/end.png)[/spoiler]
The original plot of this game is simple and straightforward, but there is beauty in simplicity. SRW L just... works.
Overall, it's my #3 favorite SRW title. It competes for that spot with SRW W. #2 is OGS and the champion is SRW Z, in case you were curious.
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Hohoho, I bring you a late Christmas present oh yeh of little faith!
Super Robot Wars J translation finished! (http://aerie.wingdreams.net/) Enjoy! I know I will! :)
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At mission 4 already.
It's so beautiful. It could be a painful reminder of how much witty wordplay and injokes I miss by playing non-translated SRWs... but it is not. I try not to think about it and instead enjoy the translators' hard work. Most of which had to be spent on Izumi's terrible, terrible puns. Of course.
Also, I should learn Japanese.
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Also, I should learn Japanese.
But in Japanese your name would be Kyuubi. ???
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I see oslecamo has a new av.
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For some reason, the combination between his AV and his forum title is really hilarious for me.
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For some reason, the combination between his AV and his forum title is really hilarious for me.
(http://www.thatanimeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/vlcsnap-2010-10-05-21h19m56s44.jpg)
"Awww... now I only have Bullet-kun."
EDIT: You want contrast? You can't handle the contrast! (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=10495.msg357387#msg357387)
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Hey, this forum has a PbP part? Nice.
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Just came across this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_UDcH9CbM).
...what? It's in SRW J.
Gai: "This burning passion is building within me! ...Wait, no. Just hunger."
I really have to watch Nadeisco.
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SRW Z is having a sequel (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-01-05/super-robot-wars-z-2-psp-game-adds-geass-gurren).
I don't know whether to cheer or cry. The latter because I don't have a PSP. Although like Tengu said on that other forum, there is that note on how the sequel is "split into two parts" whatever that means. I don't assume they're going with the Compact 2 approach - maybe it means it will have a PSP and a PS2/PS3 release? Sorta like Advance, with its GBA and PSP versions.
At any rate. Awesome, awesome, awesome list of series included. Almost too good to be true. VOTOMS? Dai-Guard? Getter Robo Armageddon? Beautiful.
I hope to see Rand and Setsuko again. Probably as supporting cast for the new protagonist(s).
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Getter Robo: Armageddon [...] provides a good way to tie TTGL in.
What are the odds we'll see a combination attack between Dancougar, Dancougar Nova and Gravion?
I hope to see Rand and Setsuko again. Probably as supporting cast for the new protagonist(s).
Obviously, one of the heroes will be named Uhs.
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The two Dancougars and Gravion will have a combination attack - the Ultimate Obaringer!
Anyway, saw some pics linked on gamefaqs. The article itself looks legit enough, so I hope it's not a fake. I really, really hope it's not.
VOTOMS, man. Seriously.
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VOTOMS, man. Seriously.
Eerr, aren't VOTOMS kinda the oposite of spirited giant robots saving the world? Like, they're probably the lowest tech mechas out there and the series itself is quite grimdark.
How are you suposed to put them side by side with something like Getter Armageddon and make it work?
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How are you suposed to put them side by side with something like Getter Armageddon and make it work?
You mean the series where 90% of Earth's population die horribly? Then some of the survivors get used as human shields? Then the "hero" non-chalantly kills the survivors to get through? And where the only way to avoid your own mech eating you is to be violently insane? And then you get to see in the future where that stopped working and you willingly killed everyone in the universe?
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I'm not concerned about this. Mechanics-wise, it's not that there was no precedence - J and W had Nadesico and FMP, which have pretty low-powered and realistic reals (well, except for Lambda Driver) fighting alongside Mazinkaiser. And the Alpha series had both tiny Valkyrie Fighters and the taking-on-millions-and-winning Gunbuster. Sometimes this even happens within boundaries of one series, like in Overman King Gainer.
As for the series feel, the cynical and idealistic series clashing with each other is a lot of fun in SRW! Well, when you can understand what is going on.
And yeah, Armageddon is pretty grimdark itself. Shouldn't they go with the Shin vs Neo version? Not that I mind but it should be easier to incorporate.
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And yeah, Armageddon is pretty grimdark itself. Shouldn't they go with the Shin vs Neo version? Not that I mind but it should be easier to incorporate.
Where do you think the depopulated wasteland in TTGL came from?
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How are you suposed to put them side by side with something like Getter Armageddon and make it work?
You mean the series where 90% of Earth's population die horribly? Then some of the survivors get used as human shields? Then the "hero" non-chalantly kills the survivors to get through?
Precisely! Getter robo armagedon is about some spirited characters whose machines punch trough whole armies (literally) by themselves! Pretty much all mecha series do that actualy. VOTOMs doesn't however.
Even Valkyries and Nadesico and FMP kick ass against overwhelming odds, but in VOTOMs being outnumbered is actually pretty bad news.
And yeah, Armageddon is pretty grimdark itself. Shouldn't they go with the Shin vs Neo version? Not that I mind but it should be easier to incorporate.
Where do you think the depopulated wasteland in TTGL came from?
So, is Lord Spiral actually the last surviving Getter Pilot :p
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Also, adding new series to SRW Z's universe is very easy. You just make it so yet another world is fused into the gestalt we have now. For example, a post-apocalyptic one with Getter and TTGL, or something that houses Wing, 00 and Code Geass.
Much more believable than pretending the PLANTs were there all along, we simply didn't pay attention to them until now.
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Also, adding new series to SRW Z's universe is very easy. You just make it so yet another world is fused into the gestalt we have now. For example, a post-apocalyptic one with Getter and TTGL, or something that houses Wing, 00 and Code Geass.
Much more believable than pretending the PLANTs were there all along, we simply didn't pay attention to them until now.
Please, what SRW doesn't include at least one being able to reshape/fuse/destroy realities? :lmao
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Much more believable than pretending the PLANTs were there all along, we simply didn't pay attention to them until now.
Of course that makes sense. That's why they're so angry! :p
So, is Lord Spiral actually the last surviving Getter Pilot :p
It's Lordgenome. And when flashbacks to his fight against the Anti-Spirals are shown, his army seems to include Mazinger Z and the RX-78 Gundam among others.
This means that Lord Genome is a Banpresto Original gone horribly wrong.
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This means that Lord Genome is a Banpresto Original gone horribly wrong.
Well, Ideon can blow up the very universe every time it shows up in a SRW, and Shaddow Mirror Kyosuke went so wrong even the very villains prefered to run away to another dimension with a flawed device than face him. Business as usual when dealing with super robots.
Also if they put Getter Robo armageddon, I demand to see GIGA NAKED DRILL BREAKER!!! :P
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Hey guys. Very irregular poster here, just now getting back to the site, and I noticed this thread. Big fan of the games, and enjoying OGIN.
I'm currently halfway through my second playthrough of J, and I was thinking about having my third be done as a Lets Play. Do you guys think that kind of thread would work on this site?
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I'm currently halfway through my second playthrough of J, and I was thinking about having my third be done as a Lets Play. Do you guys think that kind of thread would work on this site?
Sure, there's plenty of SRW fans around here. And the release of the english patch totally deserves a proper LP!
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IIRC the third time around you can choose an extra starting unit. Or was that the fourth? Also, something about being able to choose your own Seishins?
Just be sure to put it in the Projects & Plugs section.
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Yes, please do run an SRW J LP. You have our full support. I remember Nerdo having one (link (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95620)) earlier, but that was ages ago, on a different forum, and he quit after ~12 missions. Besides, now we have the fan translation. That makes stuff easier to understand.
As far as actual gameplay is concerned, I prefer W to J. But hey. GBA and DS. No comparison in technical ability. But just because W is more fun to play doesn't mean J is not fun to read about.
Main Character unit:
[spoiler]Finish the game using each original robot and you can pick Raftclans as the fourth. Surprisingly to no one, it is incredibly powerful. Seishin I think are still only dependant on whether you pick Touya or Calvina, and if you pilot a real or a super.[/spoiler]
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I'm aware that it takes 3 playthroughs to unlock the special unit, but I don't know if I want to play through the entire game a third time before I do this. Its already taking me quite a while to get through the second, and frankly, I think I'll have to start with a brand new game file anyway, so that everyone is on the same page and the Favorite Series mechanic matters.
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I wouldn't have patience to play this game 3 times. I barely have patience to play a SRW title I like twice.
You heard me, I didn't like playing J. No, that's not correct - I didn't like it as much as I hoped for. Everything just takes forever to kill, and there is little variety of enemies so it gets very monotonous after a while. This title is not hard, but for me - it's just boring.
It is not a bad game. In fact, it's probably a really good game. It's just not my style, really.
The same applies to SRW D, only with even more "everything takes forever to die" factor and some actual difficulty. Thanks, armor bug!
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Random AMV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm-wdTVJnFM)
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Preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggj1lVsZoJw). Despite no news about originals, awesome beyond words. I have to go to the bathroom now.
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Ah, confirmation that both Old and New Dancougar will be playable. Including Final Dancougar.
There's definitely going to be a Final Obari Special here. After all, Combattler/Voltes/Daimos got one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6MeZ30ije0).
On a semi-related note... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFTPA8teIhs)
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Funny story about Alpha Gaiden stage 29.
The guide says that to get the skill point of that level I need to deploy Jiron and persuade brain-washed Elchi twice.
I however didn't deploy him (as I only check the guide when the battle is already going), so said "Screw character relationships, I'll go for gun diplomacy!". Proceed to beat the crap out of Elchi whitout killingg her, and, what do you know, I get the skill point after all! :p
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Now you're thinking like a Xabungle character.
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Now you're thinking like a Xabungle character.
Yep, they sure do like their guns. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpoIiK8gk8c)
EDIT: On another note (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiC6vfNP5bk)
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Walker Gallia is a man!
Also, scaling in that game... it's so bad, which is to say non-existant. Transformers would be proud.
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Also, scaling in that game... it's so bad, which is to say non-existant. Transformers would be proud.
Eh, the SRW Z2 intro has Lancelot the same size as Daitarn 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENdX2-tXKUU).
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One of the better-animated parodies I've seen. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waUVRJS0sdY) I don't know anything about the series involved other than the names and "lol(icon) fanservice" though.
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Huh, never heard anything about this before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By5WBdJNFgc
Includes Lancelot, Double X, Exia, Gespents...
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SRW Z2 main character info partially out. Have a pic (http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3946/12984214884761805747.jpg) - sorry for crap quality.
The black/blue haired guy, Crow, confirmed for Blaster's main pilot. Cool to have an older (not old, simply not a kid) protagonist again. He supposedly dislikes women, although no idea where that info came from. The ambigously gendered blonde person, Traia/Tryer, is unknown. Could be a copilot. Could be a pilot of a totally different unit.
Still hoping for a female MC in a super-type. But I like what I see so far. Good character designs, good realtype original mech.
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Higher quality pics, just follow this link (http://www.famitsu.com/news/201102/24040597.html).
Crow confirmed for an egotist woman hater, him and Traia confirmed (in the fandom's eyes at least) for yaoi guys. Also includes pics of various units using their special abilities. Gurren Lagann can switch between its two pilots, Lelouch sucks in combat but uses clever tactics, etc.
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Rushbird remix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3aMmmC1Xcw)
User's accounts:
http://www.youtube.com/user/0TsuRyu0
http://www.youtube.com/user/xTsuRyux
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That's pretty nice, but I actually prefer the original version. This person's remixes work better for more melancholic, real-type pilots like Joshua from SRW D. Ichitaka is optimistic and in-your-face, and so is his theme. The violins make the remix too subtle.
EDIT: What the heck, someone else made the Joshua Theme remix. It totally sounded like TsuRyu though. Anyway, listened to a few other remixes: Bullet Striker (didn't like it), Land Crasher (nice 8-bit arrangement) and the Right Stuff (only subtly different from the original, but overall for the better IMO).
I want to play SRW Z again now...
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I personally liked the PS2 mix of the SRW K girl's theme. Just posted Rushbird because there can't be many remixes of it.
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New LP is here: http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=11308.0
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More parodies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8_EdKBf5Es
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlV406IrJLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-gusWC9M7U
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I bring you the big SRW Z2 preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmxOfdFgrcU&feature=player_embedded). It's
14 16 minutes long and there is a lot to be said about it. I don't even know where to start so I'll just say this:
DAT XABUNGLE ATTACK
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As for Prime's videos:
Zone of Enders hell yeah! And please tell me the Kamen Rider and Pretty Cure game is a real thing...
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I bring you the big SRW Z2 preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmxOfdFgrcU&feature=player_embedded). It's 14 16 minutes long and there is a lot to be said about it. I don't even know where to start so I'll just say this:
DAT XABUNGLE ATTACK
Was that a rapid fire Sun Attack?
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Yeah. Haran Banjou can already do that in Alpha 3. Slightly weaker than the usual Sun Attack, but an ALL one.
No idea what function will it serve here, since Z2 doesn't get groups.
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Did I mention I'm playing OG1 right now? Just encountered Barrelions for the first time on Ryusei's route.
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Nobody likes Barrelions. Especially when they Support Defend each other. They are tough, their weapons make them the first mass produced enemy that can actually hurt you, and to top it all off - they are ugly. Hideous.
Okay, okay. Let's not get too pumped up here. Think happy thoughts and awesome things. Think Cybuster.
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I think Ryusei crying like a little girl when he faces his first big boss. Speaking of wich, I should really finish his route one of those days.
Maybe when I finish Super Cheating AI robots Alpha Gaiden. Damn boss casting guard on himself and then defending/evading everything. Luckily the guard didn't work on his own turn, so ended up taking care of him with valored satellite cannon. Wich somehow I could use despite said boss holding the magic girl I needed to activate said satellite cannon hostage.
Interesting fact, I seem to have messed up all the gundam pilots since I don't know the series. Judau on the V2 and Usso and Quatro on the alpha and hi alpha. Also had quatro in the GPO3 for quite some missions.
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alpha and hi alpha.
Nu.
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I don't think Garrod needs Tifa to activate the satellite cannon later in the series. You need a Newtype to do it, but I think they got an imprint of Jamil's brainwave or something like that.
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I don't think Garrod needs Tifa to activate the satellite cannon later in the series. You need a Newtype to do it, but I think they got an imprint of Jamil's brainwave or something like that.
Yet we can hear/see Tifa talking in the attack sequence in that particular part! :p
Well perhaps she can do it at close distance since they were on the same battlefield. Being desesperate and everything.
Also loved the "Wait, what do you mean we can't just block a nuclear bomb with a barrier or something like that?" :P
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Tifa is not the strongest Newtype ever for nothing. For the evolved human, barriers of distance are meaningless! And now I sound like Char.
Also, I have no idea what's the big deal with nukes. At most, they put your ass on fire in a comical manner. Xabungle would never lie to me.
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Screwed up getting the Battle Mastery on the last mission (coral reef w/ Rhinos and two bosses, Ryoto joins you, Granzon shows up to chase you off the map). Still playing on Hard though, and none of the secrets have any requirements above that, right?
Is it worth upgrading one of those fighter jets until it's more dodgy than Cybuster?
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The jets are a waste of funds. Just ignore them. Sure, some people say "put Latooni in a Messer and nobody will be able to hit her ever" - but with those pitifully weak missiles, she won't be killing anything either.
The best use for a fighter jet is to outfit one with repair and resupply modules and give it to either Garnet or Radha. They are 100% support pilots and shouldn't fight directly anyway. Radha even has SP Regain by default so she doesn't need kills for pilot points.
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The jets are a waste of funds. Just ignore them. Sure, some people say "put Latooni in a Messer and nobody will be able to hit her ever" - but with those pitifully weak missiles, she won't be killing anything either.
+1 to that. Even if they can get lots of dodge, the loss of firepower simply isn't worth it.
The best use for a fighter jet is to outfit one with repair and resupply modules and give it to either Garnet or Radha. They are 100% support pilots and shouldn't fight directly anyway. Radha even has SP Regain by default so she doesn't need kills for pilot points.
Radha with Focus is a support monster, and if you're bringing her to your missions, may as well give her a combat-worthy machine. Her Schutzald can get some cheap mobility from boosters and then tag along the team, and as the game progresses you'll have tougher robots to give to her to play metal shield for your team and fire some support shots.
I particulary enjoyed giving her disabling weapons since in OG1 not every boss under the sun and the moon has immunity to them.
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Beat the R-1's debut mission (get Hagane across map in 6 turns, Battle Mastery: defeat Tempest) on my third try. On my first try I actually managed to KO Tempest and Elzam, but the Hagane ended turn 6 two squares away from the edge of the map. :shakefist There is an upside though - XP and pilot points carry over, so I was able to buy SP Regenerate for three characters.
On another note: Aya, stop exploding. I already gave you my best armour part, I just don't want to sink upgrades into your Type-TT that won't carry over.
My current lineup:
Hagane (Team Daitetsuya) - Dustproof - Repair Module/Supply Module
Grungust (Irm) - Booster/Repair Kit
Cybuster (Masaki) - Dual Sensor/Servo Motor
Gespesnt MkII-TT (Aya) - ApogeeMotor/Repair Kit/HybridArmor/ChobhamArmor - Split Missile/Plasma Cutter/MegaBeamRifle/M95MachineGun/Energy Taker/G-Revolver
Schutzwald (Rai) - ChobhamArmor/Repair Kit/Water Jet (because aquatic TwinBeam Cannon) - Split Missile/M95MachineGun/Steel Knife/Slash Ripper
Lion F (Ryoto) - ApogeeMotor - Homing Missile/M95MachineGun
Huckebein 009 (Rio) - Bio Sensor/Tesla Drive - Roche Saber/Remote Slasher/Boosted Rifle/MegaBeamRifle
Wildschwein (Ingram) - ApogeeMotor/Servo Motor - Beam Sword/M95MachineGun/M13 Shotgun/MegaBeamRifle/Jam Grenade/Homing Missile
Wildraubtier (Latooni) - Servo Motor - Steel Knife/HyperBeam Rifle/Split Missile/MegaBeamRifle/Burst Railgun
R-1 (Ryusei) - None - Steel Knife/G-Revolver/Split Missile/MegaBeamRifle/Burst Railgun
Gespenst MII-M (Giado) - Beam Coat - Split Missile/M95MachineGun/Plasma Cutter/Steel Knife/M13 Shotgun/MegaBeamRifle/G-Revolver
Gespenst MII-M (Garnet) - None - Split Missile/M95MachineGun/Assault Blade/Homing Missile/Spider Net
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Having both Split and Homing Missile on your Gespensts is a waste. Both of these are shit in general. Of course, if you have nothing better to fill the weapon space with...
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Crowning moment of funny in Alpha Gaiden!
Trying to shoot down Marybell in stage 33, but like most bub bosses, she'll cowardly evade/defend when low on health. And the only unit I have available to get the job done is the Talgeese whose pilot doesn't have Strike, and even with focus is a miserable 34% hit chance. However, she also has Support, and is near a lunar battleship. The following happens:
[spoiler]
-Attack the battleship with valor.
-Marybell Support defends just as planned.
-Marybell taunts with "Are you all bark and no bite?" when taking the Heat Rod.
-Marybell then realizes her mecha's HP has dropped to zero from the attack and goes down screaming like a girl.
-Profit!
[/spoiler]
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Tch, Marybell. She annoyed me so in the anime - good for you that she went down. The less of her "amusing" banter and "charmingly eccentric" behavior, the better.
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"Kyosuke. No, don't do it Kyosuke!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI3ZwiJ-Vj8)
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A new Original Generations title confirmed for the PS3. Hugo will be in (big surprise after OGG...), same for Josh (Steam will be happy). There's also new originals. /m/ only has crappy blurry scans so far, I'll link something good as/when it appears.
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I bring screencaps! Expect to see some really obscure mecha and characters in this, like the Grungust Kai or Ariel Org (whose concept seems to be pretty much Ouka + Lamia. Win!). Oh yeah, and Ing is in this too. Excellent.
Anyway, here are the images. Spoilered for size.
[spoiler](http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1305704178497.jpg)
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1305731277950.jpg)
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1305731387151.jpg)
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1305731333618.jpg)
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1305731431998.jpg)
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1305731572430.jpg)
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1305697596227.jpg)
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1305731760010.jpg)
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1305731916721.jpg)
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I don't really like this Cerberus shot, it's here only to prove Huge is in the game. Other caps of his unit look better, luckily. They were also too big for my photobucket to handle.
Oh, and by the way. One of the spoilered images is fake. Can you guess which one?
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Clearly, it's the one with Ing in it, because you like trolling Steam as much as I do.
I see they're compromising and going for really 3-D looking sprites. I approve, even if the mech designs look really really The Inspector now (this is a vast improvement in at least RyuJinKi's case. So much cleaner.)
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Of course it is the one with Ing. The revolver-bunker tank is another
death trap advanced prototype Kyosuke will be called to test in by Dr.Radion.
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The revolver-bunker tank is another death trap advanced prototype Kyosuke will be called to test in by Dr.Radion.
Kyosuke never looked as happy as he does on that picture.
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Oh no (http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1305742823166.jpg)!
[spoiler]Yeah, I know it's fake.[/spoiler]
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Someone put this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GLb_lXC4s) on Youtube? Convenient.
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Excellent. I'll make sure to use this somehow.
With mr Sandman's permission of course.
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Anyone seen this before?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbcj24RcyJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygUyB0aWyaY
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Bad quality, but still:
[spoiler](http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/TehCubey/OG2/1306850162631.jpg)[/spoiler]
Cliana "Rim" Rimskaya and Blanche Neige confirmed for the Second OG.
Seems Banpresto is going all Real Robot with the newcomers. No surprise, since the OG-verse is drowning in supers as it is.
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I wouldn't say drowning, more that OG2 and OGG had more than their share, and I suppose that this game has to compensate.
Though I think one of the Famitsu interviews implied that the D and MX supers were still in the game, possibly as secrets.
I do hope this makes the jump to America, I want me some Gespenst Kai Katina action.
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Supposedly Sony demands ported titles to be dubbed, so I wouldn't count on it. But on the other hand, we DID get Endless Frontier and it had spoken Japanese. Of course, being a DS title Sony had nothing to do with it. The port was courtesy of Atlus, who are (in)famous for working on niche titles like that. And bless them for this.
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Supposedly Sony demands ported titles to be dubbed, so I wouldn't count on it. But on the other hand, we DID get Endless Frontier and it had spoken Japanese. Of course, being a DS title Sony had nothing to do with it. The port was courtesy of Atlus, who are (in)famous for working on niche titles like that. And bless them for this.
I'd be more willing to thank Atlus if they'd translated Lord of Elemental, but I'm willing to give them a chance to pick this one up.
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Just realised what The Inspector's 2nd OP was called (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD67deOBVcU), and laughed. Is that meant to describe the audience?
Also, why haven't I seen any Z2 discussion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmqgRiySSBI&feature=autoplay&list=UL2iK9roO2mGk&index=21&playnext=2)? :(
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Also, why haven't I seen any Z2 discussion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmqgRiySSBI&feature=autoplay&list=UL2iK9roO2mGk&index=21&playnext=2)? :(
Simon used Dig! It's super effective!
After having small mechas, power armor troops, and sentai rangers, kyoko sets a new record on just how many "robot" you need to be to fight in a SRW game. Oversized gun and bikini is enough aparently, altough I expect her to get some bigger mecha later on the game. :p
So they're following TTGL's starting history quite faithfully. Has there been any confirmation for time/dimension travel to explain why is there an underground ignorant human society in the middle of a wasteland infested with monsters?
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After having small mechas, power armor troops, and sentai rangers, kyoko sets a new record on just how many "robot" you need to be to fight in a SRW game. Oversized gun and bikini is enough aparently, altough I expect her to get some bigger mecha later on the game. :p
Yoko apparently only fights on foot in events. Same with Baron Ashura.
There was already Fighter Roa and that girl from Gear Fighter Dendoh, though.
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Your lack of OG3 trailers disturbs me. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQvBCOS_pVg)
(Tengu posted it at GitP)
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that MILF from Gear Fighter Dendoh, though.
Fixed. She had a bike though.
And yes, that OGII trailer looks great. Definitely a must buy for me.
Ha ha, that game would be a best buy even if it had paper cutouts for attack animations. In fact, that'd be kinda awesome...
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So I finally had some time to see if I can finish Alpha Gaiden, and suddenly the rom kinda freezes at the end of mission 35.
[spoiler]
The Ra Cailum reaches the moon dome, enemy bots vanish, a couple dialogue lines, and then nothing, the music just keeps playing and I can't do anything but reset the emulator.
This hapened to anyone else? Any advice on what may be wrong?
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So I finally had some time to see if I can finish Alpha Gaiden, and suddenly the rom kinda freezes at the end of mission 35.
[spoiler]
The Ra Cailum reaches the moon dome, enemy bots vanish, a couple dialogue lines, and then nothing, the music just keeps playing and I can't do anything but reset the emulator.
This hapened to anyone else? Any advice on what may be wrong?
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The LP at SomethingAwful says [spoiler]Its something to do with how many of the bots you've killed, apparently each unit has a unique index in an array and when they run out of IDs to spawn new units with, the game will crash.
Solution: Reduced mass murder of bots[/spoiler]
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Thanks!
[spoiler]
Aparently parking the rai-cailum just outside the moon crater itself doesn't trigger the extra reinforcments, so I could end turn, then blast a single g-bit to get trough. Also never counter-attacking the little bastards just to be safe.
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I just noticed a small nightmare-fuel in Alpha Gaiden.
[spoiler]
When Ryusei dodges attacks he usually shouts his trademark "You saw it Rai? Ah, he wasn't looking now ..."
Which is all fine and dandy until one realizes Rai was left back on the present time and would have been dead for years now. Which means the poor kid finally snapped under pressure.
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[spoiler]But then, it means Rai really wasn't looking.[/spoiler]
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[spoiler]Its probably just copy-pasted dialogue from Alpha 1, where he was there basically all the time.[/spoiler]
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Oh, I'm sure it is. Hence why you could call it Fridge Horror... or something.
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Cannot unsee. (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/409710/)
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Cannot unsee. (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/409710/)
Oh that is hilarious.
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The Joule family spreads across many canons. Sister in Touhou, children in Linebarrels of Iron!
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Looking for some more advice for Alpha Gaiden.
[spoiler]
Mission 37, I want to get the skill point but it demands using a MAP weapon to kill both psycho gundam brothers in one shot. I can't use the satellite cannon, Heero can't hit the broad side of a barn with his MAP buster rifles (and doesn't learn Strike spirit), remaining MAP users I have don't have enough punch. So I'll have to restart the whole mission and do some upgrading, what do you advise?
1-Fill the Gundam Wing Zero with acuraccy-boosting items, two HP targeters would provide a 60% bonus to hit at the cost of needing to save energy all game.
2-Upgrade my second best MAP unit available, the Quebley (2500 base damage for Funnel MAP), costing me roughly 20% of my current funds. It's however an excellent machine already so it would be worth using the rest of the game regardless of what I'm facing, justifying the cost.
Your opinion?
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(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd54/Prime32_temp/Modified/excellen_colour.png)
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For SRW Z2-2, supposedly we're getting a system to manage your units (read: some kind of partner/squad system, something which Z2-1 needed a lot), and ~6 new series.
The new series include Full Metal Panic.
This is Trollada, but Trollada often comes true. I'm not sure which of these two announcements makes me happier.
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Does anyone have a handy list of which units in J carry over their upgrades to other ones? I'm trying to figure out if theres any special advantage to upgrading Strike like in Alpha 3 and W.
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FFFFFFFFFF
I just found lines from my SRW K Let's Play quoted on /m/.
As actual in-game dialogue.